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International News Title: Live BR EXIT vote When it was 1.5% in it was 49.5 stay, 50.5 leave, the leaves seem to widening the gap. 2.6% Reporting Votes Remain a member of the European Union 48.4% 280,820
Leave the European Union 51.6% 299,598 Poster Comment: This is a wonderful surprise. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 65. Why is it, "a wonderful surprise?"
#3. To: buckeroo (#2) It's a wonderful surprise for two reasons. First, the polls indicated that Remain would win. Second, there are so many trillions at stake that I assumed that the Remain forces would successfully rig the vote to ensure they got the result they wanted. So, seeing the Leave vote apparently surging, and seeing that it's actually apparently going to happen, it's wonderful. It's wonderful because so many other nations are chafing at the EU bit as well. France, Holland, Denmark, Sweden - their people all want to go. With England out, it will be very easy for France to do the same now. The EU could have been a grand thing. But it didn't live up to it promise. It became dominated by a narrow, strangling financial interest and lost the support of its people. But really, when the Germans simply opened up their borders, without consultation with their neighbors (with whom they have the open borders pact) and let in millions of Muslims, they effectively fed rat poison to the EU project. BREXIT means that the "yob" vote, the nationalist vote, wins. And that is a very good sign for Donald Trump too.
#8. To: Vicomte13 (#3) BREXIT means that the "yob" vote, the nationalist vote, wins. And that is a very good sign for Donald Trump too. Somehow, I expected a Trumperette waving their POM-POMs to swing on by this thread wildly waving their legs aloft giving prognostications for Trump. Good GOD, man, have you no dignity?
#9. To: buckeroo (#8) Sure, I've got dignity. But we're talking power here and the future, and I'm keenly interested in seeing my views win. With Brexit, I have a surprise, smashing victory for my beliefs. Free immigration of French people into England, or English into French, or Dutch and Irish and Danes, all that - nobody cares about that. But free immigration of every Muslim who happens to get an immigration card from some dithering government on the periphery? NO! Just like the Mexican Border. NO, dammit - we have the right to determine who gets to be here.
#11. To: Vicomte13 (#9) NO! Just like the Mexican Border. NO, dammit - we have the right to determine who gets to be here. You are confused about international agreements such as in the integration of free passage between member countries and a single currency in the EU, as opposed to separate nations that share a common border such as the US & Mexico with the Clinton NAFTA agreement which is a completely DIFFERENT approach to the respective neighborhood. GEESH, Trumperettes trully are silly POM POM girlz!
#13. To: buckeroo (#11) I'm not confused about anything, buckeroo. Apparently, neither are the British people. They've been in the EU for a long time, and they've had their fill of it. Now they are leaving, reasserting their sovereignty, and charting their own course for the future. And immigration into their country at rates beyond which they were willing to tolerate was a core factor in their decision. America faces the same issue. The political classes and the economic classes view broad immigration as good for the country - as defined by their interests. But the broad back of the people do not. Because the political and economic classes refuse to listen and will not yield, they will have to be broken. By Trump. The issue is the same on both sides of the sea. It is why a Frexit will be on the cards next. The French are well and truly sick of it also, and they will be voting with their feet. The English example gives them an incredible boost in hope. Rule Britannia, Britannia rule your own land again. God save the Queen.
#14. To: Vicomte13 (#13)
#15. To: buckeroo (#14) 11:43 PM British Sky News calls the election: the British people have voted for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union. What a wonderful result! Markets won't like it, but they'll get over it - they always do.
#19. To: Vicomte13, buckeroo, All (#15) Markets won't like it, but they'll get over it - they always do. The global stock markets, debt markets and currency markets are going bat sh*t crazy. I am expecting to take about an overall 2-3% hit on an overall well balanced portfolio tomorrow morning. But like you I believe this is an over reaction and the markets will more or less rebound in the short term. The fact is that the UK isn't getting out of the EU any time soon.
#27. To: SOSO (#19) But like you, I believe this is an over reaction Truth be told, it's a tantrum by the moneymen. Nationalism trumped economics. Hard. They don't like that, it's not in their playbook for major nations to do that. When minor nations do it, they close in and punish. But when the UK does it, they find their money power really is inferior to democracy, and it panics them, and pisses them off, so they have a tantrum.
#29. To: Vicomte13 (#27) France ins't leaving. My grandfather was in WWII he said they were stinky people who didn't bathe. Kind of like Johnny Depp I guess.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#29) The mob rules Britt's were tired of smelly, pushy Muslims shitting on them with Europes progressive bleeding heart idiology... and in November, this country is going to be heard loud and clear about our borders being sealed up WHEN TRUMP kicks KILLary in her birth canal until her nose bleeds and sends that bitch packing.
#33. To: GrandIsland (#30) (Edited) and in November, this country is going to be heard loud and clear about our borders being sealed up The US retreat behind the Great Wall of Trump will you build it at the Rio Grande or the Red River?
#46. To: paraclete (#33) The US retreat behind the Great Wall of Trump will you build it at the Rio Grande or the Red River? I'd gladly build it to keep your poisonous ass out or unable to enter and infect my republic with your progressive idiology.
#57. To: GrandIsland (#46) I'd gladly build it to keep your poisonous ass out or unable to enter and infect my republic with your progressive idiology. Go ahead but it won't keep me out, not than I want to visit your capitalist utopia anytime soon. My ideology is not progressive but it is not regressive, I have moved on from the 18th century frontier society and the need to protect myself against the natives. Your problem is you think you live in a democracy
#61. To: paraclete (#57) Whether you realize it or not, there is a real cottage industry of hiring illegals in the US. It is complex and structured. There is lots of work available, and you can get it when you want it, but you have to be on the inside. White people (or American blacks, for that matter) need not apply.
#62. To: no gnu taxes (#61) (Edited) Whether you realize it or not, there is a real cottage industry of hiring illegals in the US. It is complex and structured. look ethnics hire ethnics, it is easier to exploit your own than others. happens everywhere. It is called discrimination. You have a society that still exploits labour. even if you send these people back you will not fill the jobs those "whites" and "blacks" don't want them, they are "brown" jobs
#65. To: paraclete (#62) if you send these people back you will not fill the jobs those "whites" and "blacks" don't want them Whites and blacks do want them. Just not for $6 an hour and no benefits.
Replies to Comment # 65. Whites and blacks do want them. Just not for $6 an hour and no benefits. If their only choice was to work those jobs at 8.00 an hour or STARVE... guess what happens. Our economy needs all three classes. We aren't all equal.
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