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International News Title: Live BR EXIT vote When it was 1.5% in it was 49.5 stay, 50.5 leave, the leaves seem to widening the gap. 2.6% Reporting Votes Remain a member of the European Union 48.4% 280,820
Leave the European Union 51.6% 299,598 Poster Comment: This is a wonderful surprise. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 15. Why is it, "a wonderful surprise?"
#3. To: buckeroo (#2) It's a wonderful surprise for two reasons. First, the polls indicated that Remain would win. Second, there are so many trillions at stake that I assumed that the Remain forces would successfully rig the vote to ensure they got the result they wanted. So, seeing the Leave vote apparently surging, and seeing that it's actually apparently going to happen, it's wonderful. It's wonderful because so many other nations are chafing at the EU bit as well. France, Holland, Denmark, Sweden - their people all want to go. With England out, it will be very easy for France to do the same now. The EU could have been a grand thing. But it didn't live up to it promise. It became dominated by a narrow, strangling financial interest and lost the support of its people. But really, when the Germans simply opened up their borders, without consultation with their neighbors (with whom they have the open borders pact) and let in millions of Muslims, they effectively fed rat poison to the EU project. BREXIT means that the "yob" vote, the nationalist vote, wins. And that is a very good sign for Donald Trump too.
#8. To: Vicomte13 (#3) BREXIT means that the "yob" vote, the nationalist vote, wins. And that is a very good sign for Donald Trump too. Somehow, I expected a Trumperette waving their POM-POMs to swing on by this thread wildly waving their legs aloft giving prognostications for Trump. Good GOD, man, have you no dignity?
#9. To: buckeroo (#8) Sure, I've got dignity. But we're talking power here and the future, and I'm keenly interested in seeing my views win. With Brexit, I have a surprise, smashing victory for my beliefs. Free immigration of French people into England, or English into French, or Dutch and Irish and Danes, all that - nobody cares about that. But free immigration of every Muslim who happens to get an immigration card from some dithering government on the periphery? NO! Just like the Mexican Border. NO, dammit - we have the right to determine who gets to be here.
#11. To: Vicomte13 (#9) NO! Just like the Mexican Border. NO, dammit - we have the right to determine who gets to be here. You are confused about international agreements such as in the integration of free passage between member countries and a single currency in the EU, as opposed to separate nations that share a common border such as the US & Mexico with the Clinton NAFTA agreement which is a completely DIFFERENT approach to the respective neighborhood. GEESH, Trumperettes trully are silly POM POM girlz!
#13. To: buckeroo (#11) I'm not confused about anything, buckeroo. Apparently, neither are the British people. They've been in the EU for a long time, and they've had their fill of it. Now they are leaving, reasserting their sovereignty, and charting their own course for the future. And immigration into their country at rates beyond which they were willing to tolerate was a core factor in their decision. America faces the same issue. The political classes and the economic classes view broad immigration as good for the country - as defined by their interests. But the broad back of the people do not. Because the political and economic classes refuse to listen and will not yield, they will have to be broken. By Trump. The issue is the same on both sides of the sea. It is why a Frexit will be on the cards next. The French are well and truly sick of it also, and they will be voting with their feet. The English example gives them an incredible boost in hope. Rule Britannia, Britannia rule your own land again. God save the Queen.
#14. To: Vicomte13 (#13)
#15. To: buckeroo (#14) 11:43 PM British Sky News calls the election: the British people have voted for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union. What a wonderful result! Markets won't like it, but they'll get over it - they always do.
Replies to Comment # 15. I have only marginally paid attention to this, but my gut feeling is all the people I detest will hate this, and the people I like will feel comforted by this.
#18. To: Vicomte13 (#15) 11:43 PM British Sky News calls the election: the British people have voted for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union. Excellent news!
#19. To: Vicomte13, buckeroo, All (#15) Markets won't like it, but they'll get over it - they always do. The global stock markets, debt markets and currency markets are going bat sh*t crazy. I am expecting to take about an overall 2-3% hit on an overall well balanced portfolio tomorrow morning. But like you I believe this is an over reaction and the markets will more or less rebound in the short term. The fact is that the UK isn't getting out of the EU any time soon.
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