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Opinions/Editorials Title: Scarborough Predicts Trump Loss So Huge, Will Make Goldwater Look ‘Extremely Successful’ In 1964, Republican Barry Goldwater suffered a devastating landslide loss to LBJ. Aside from his home state of Arizona, Goldwater carried only five other states, all in the Deep South. Goldwater amassed only 52 electoral votes, to Johnson’s 486. But even that paltry performance will look “extremely successful” compared to the thrashing that is in store for Donald Trump in November — if you believe Joe Scarborough. On today’s Morning Joe, after reviewing Trump’s disapproval numbers with various demographics, Scarborough said “Barry Goldwater is going to look like an extremely successful candidate.” Interestingly, Nick Confessore of the New York Times disagreed, arguing that the American electorate is so polarized that LBJ-like landslides are impossible today, and that the candidate of either party has a guaranteed base of 48%. Let’s look at the electoral map. In order for Scarborough to be right, Trump would have to lose some of the Deep South states that Goldwater carried. So which of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina does Joe say Hillary will win? And even if Hillary did manage to take, say, Georgia, is Scarborough saying that Trump won’t win any states that Goldwater lost? Hillary will win each of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Alaska, etc? Really? JOE SCARBOROUGH: The thing is, Nick, you just look at the numbers right now. I’m loved with Hispanics: 89% of Hispanics disapprove of him. The blacks love me, he says. 94% of black voters disapprove of him. Women love me. I’ll be great for women. What is that? Up in the 70s now? RON FOURNIER: 53% of low-income whites days disapprove of him. JOE: 53% of low-income whites days disapprove of him. We have never seen numbers like this. Barry Goldwater is going to look like an extremely successful candidate. NICK CONFESSORE: I don’t think so. I’m probably going to eat these words, but I don’t think a Goldwater-type landslide is possible in politics today. Americans are too polarized and segmented. DONNY DEUTSCH: Let me give you other numbers beyond the disapproval. You can still disapprove and maybe vote for somebody. 65% of women have said they will absolutely not vote for him. 55% of men, we will absolutely not vote. These are people not just disapproving. There’s just nothing that’s going to happen that’s going to — how does a landslide not come out of that? CONFESSORE: I’m just saying people are polarized by party and party ideas so strong in this country right now, that at the end everybody kind of comes home to some extent. And the amount of voters in the middle that go back and forth has become so small. I think any candidate for a ticket is guaranteed 48% of the vote basically. Poster Comment: This has been daily on their show. However before the other opponents quit Joe and Mika were praising Trump daily and ridiculing those not supporting him, with Trump calling in to their show more than once per week. Recall just a few weeks ago: How Morning Joe Morphed into Mean Girls (NR 5/3/2016 on the daily Worship of Trump on Morning Joe) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 8. "RON FOURNIER: 53% of low-income whites days disapprove of him." 47 of the 53% don't even pay taxes. Trump's message to cut taxes is lost on them. They're more concerned with losing their monthly federal check than getting a job. So Trump's message to create jobs falls on deaf ears. Get rid of Obamacare? They're on Medicaid. What do they care? Make America great again? Pffft. For them, life is already great.
#8. To: misterwhite (#7) 47 of the 53% don't even pay taxes. Trump's message to cut taxes is lost on them. Those *exact* same arguments didn't help Romney win in 2012. Where is that Trump magic we were all lectured about?
Replies to Comment # 8. "Those *exact* same arguments didn't help Romney win in 2012." True. Trumps is going to have to win over some Democrats. But my point was, when that 47% grows to 51%, we're screwed. The takers will outnumber the producers and will "vote itself largess out of the public treasury".
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