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Opinions/Editorials Title: Scarborough Predicts Trump Loss So Huge, Will Make Goldwater Look ‘Extremely Successful’ In 1964, Republican Barry Goldwater suffered a devastating landslide loss to LBJ. Aside from his home state of Arizona, Goldwater carried only five other states, all in the Deep South. Goldwater amassed only 52 electoral votes, to Johnson’s 486. But even that paltry performance will look “extremely successful” compared to the thrashing that is in store for Donald Trump in November — if you believe Joe Scarborough. On today’s Morning Joe, after reviewing Trump’s disapproval numbers with various demographics, Scarborough said “Barry Goldwater is going to look like an extremely successful candidate.” Interestingly, Nick Confessore of the New York Times disagreed, arguing that the American electorate is so polarized that LBJ-like landslides are impossible today, and that the candidate of either party has a guaranteed base of 48%. Let’s look at the electoral map. In order for Scarborough to be right, Trump would have to lose some of the Deep South states that Goldwater carried. So which of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina does Joe say Hillary will win? And even if Hillary did manage to take, say, Georgia, is Scarborough saying that Trump won’t win any states that Goldwater lost? Hillary will win each of Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Alaska, etc? Really? JOE SCARBOROUGH: The thing is, Nick, you just look at the numbers right now. I’m loved with Hispanics: 89% of Hispanics disapprove of him. The blacks love me, he says. 94% of black voters disapprove of him. Women love me. I’ll be great for women. What is that? Up in the 70s now? RON FOURNIER: 53% of low-income whites days disapprove of him. JOE: 53% of low-income whites days disapprove of him. We have never seen numbers like this. Barry Goldwater is going to look like an extremely successful candidate. NICK CONFESSORE: I don’t think so. I’m probably going to eat these words, but I don’t think a Goldwater-type landslide is possible in politics today. Americans are too polarized and segmented. DONNY DEUTSCH: Let me give you other numbers beyond the disapproval. You can still disapprove and maybe vote for somebody. 65% of women have said they will absolutely not vote for him. 55% of men, we will absolutely not vote. These are people not just disapproving. There’s just nothing that’s going to happen that’s going to — how does a landslide not come out of that? CONFESSORE: I’m just saying people are polarized by party and party ideas so strong in this country right now, that at the end everybody kind of comes home to some extent. And the amount of voters in the middle that go back and forth has become so small. I think any candidate for a ticket is guaranteed 48% of the vote basically. Poster Comment: This has been daily on their show. However before the other opponents quit Joe and Mika were praising Trump daily and ridiculing those not supporting him, with Trump calling in to their show more than once per week. Recall just a few weeks ago: How Morning Joe Morphed into Mean Girls (NR 5/3/2016 on the daily Worship of Trump on Morning Joe) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Another one Morning Blow: How Joe and Mika Became Trump's Lapdogs(Rolling Stone February 23, 2016 )
#2. To: All (#0) Trump's 'Morning Joe' town hall to compete directly with Cruz, Rubio on CNN The Hill 2/16/2016)
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#4. To: TrappedInMd (#3) Looks like the worm has turned in the Joe-Donald relationship.
#5. To: TrappedInMd (#0) me thinks Scarborough crystal balls are shattered. The womb, the most dangerous place on earth. #6. To: redleghunter (#4) Looks like the worm has turned in the Joe-Donald relationship. Support him in the primary. Rip him in the general. Now they are ridiculing anyone who endorses Trump.
#7. To: TrappedInMd (#0) "RON FOURNIER: 53% of low-income whites days disapprove of him." 47 of the 53% don't even pay taxes. Trump's message to cut taxes is lost on them. They're more concerned with losing their monthly federal check than getting a job. So Trump's message to create jobs falls on deaf ears. Get rid of Obamacare? They're on Medicaid. What do they care? Make America great again? Pffft. For them, life is already great.
#8. To: misterwhite (#7) 47 of the 53% don't even pay taxes. Trump's message to cut taxes is lost on them. Those *exact* same arguments didn't help Romney win in 2012. Where is that Trump magic we were all lectured about?
#9. To: TrappedInMd (#6) Support him in the primary. Of course. Happens every Prez election cycle. They find a media darling, promote him and then tear him apart because they are behind whoever is not an "R".
#10. To: TrappedInMd (#0) Scarborough is FOS, and dumber than he looks. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur #11. To: Stoner (#10) Scarborough is FOS, and dumber than he looks. That is the standard response every election cycle however if you look at the first few comments I point out how the Morning Joe was the Morning Trump show were they all praised and almost worshipped him daily during the primary, ridiculing all those opposed to him. Here is a typical FR/Trump comment from back then:
#12. To: TrappedInMd (#11) Yeah? Well, I do not have TV, never see him anymore. I still stand my my opinion of him. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur #13. To: TrappedInMd (#8) "Those *exact* same arguments didn't help Romney win in 2012." True. Trumps is going to have to win over some Democrats. But my point was, when that 47% grows to 51%, we're screwed. The takers will outnumber the producers and will "vote itself largess out of the public treasury".
#14. To: misterwhite (#13) " when that 47% grows to 51%, we're screwed. The takers will outnumber the producers and will "vote itself largess out of the public treasury". " At that point, I do not think we will remain a "civil" society. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. if you look around, we have gone so far down the the rat hole, the almighty is going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah, if we don't have a judgement come down on us. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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