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U.S. Constitution Title: Peruta v San Diego Cty, no 2nd Amdt right to concealed Carry Peruta v San Diego Cty, no 2nd Amdt right to concealed Carry Peruta et al v County of San Diego et al, 10-56971 (9th Cir, 9 Jul 2016)
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Id say any ---- that pays some of the highest property taxes to a state that shits on constitutional rights the most of the other 49.... and then posts on LF as a champion of constitutional rights... I'm renting a cabin in the mountains from a corporation (my son is one of the owners) that pays very little properly tax on our fixer upper resort acreage. -- Eat your heart out. And yes, I support our constitutional rights against you canary Klan weirdos. So get a life..
#69. To: tpaine (#68) Your rent funds your tyranny. I'm sure your Christopher Dorner oven still has higher taxes than a mansion in Arizona. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #70. To: GrandIsland (#69) Bizarro bullshit all ya got? Have another cocktail.
#71. To: tpaine (#66)
How many times must you be told? --- SCOTUS opinions do not change the words of the 2nd. - It must not be infringed. Actually, my #65 makes no mention of or allusion to Nunn. Nunn was the case you repeatedly have claimed destroyed my position, oblivious to the fact that it was contrary to an existing U.S. Supreme Court opinion when made in a Georgia court, and was subsequently overturned by the Georgia Supreme Court about 140 years ago. Nonsense like your claim only destroys your credibility.
The BOR'S applies to the States, --- thus States do NOT have the power to declare gun free zones. Some of the BoR applies, and some does not, depending on whether it has been incorporated into the 14th Amendment. None of the BoR applied to the states before incorporation following the 14th Amendment. Productions v. Fogerty, 3:14-cv-00633-RCJ-VPC (D. Nev. Aug 26, 2015) [John Fogerty, Creedence Clearwater Revival]
Until the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted in 1868, no federal due process clause applied to the states. See Barron v. City of Baltimore, 32 U.S. 243, 250-51 (1833) (Marshall, C.J.). My #65 responded to your bullshit claim at #64 that:
There you see it again, sports fans, the canary Klan trying to justify their support for gun free zones, -- by quoting Heller. As I made clear at #65, Heller was about keeping arms in the home, in the Federal district of Washington, D.C., once again demonstrating the nature of your bullshit. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 575-76 (2007):
Respondent Dick Heller is a D. C. special police officer authorized to carry a handgun while on duty at the Thurgood Marshall Judiciary Building. He applied for a registration certificate for a handgun that he wished to keep at home, but the District refused. He thereafter filed a lawsuit in the Federal District Court for the District of Columbia seeking, on Second Amendment grounds, to enjoin the city from enforcing the bar on the registration of handguns, the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits the carrying of a firearm in the home without a license, and the trigger-lock requirement insofar as it prohibits the use of “functional firearms within the home.” App. 59a. The District Court dismissed respondent’s complaint, see Parker v. District of Columbia, 311 F. Supp. 2d 103, 109 (2004). The Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, construing his complaint as seeking the right to render a firearm operable and carry it about his home in that condition only when necessary for self-defense, reversed, see Parker v. District of Columbia, 478 F. 3d 370, 401 (2007). It held that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess firearms and that the city’s total ban on handguns, as well as its requirement that firearms in the home be kept nonfunctional even when necessary for self-defense, violated that right. See id., at 395, 399–401. The Court of Appeals directed the District Court to enter summary judgment for respondent. Heller was about the right to keep and bear arms in one's home in the Federal District of Washington, D.C. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 626 (2007):
III Heller commented that "Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings..." If the tpaine interpretation were correct, all visitors to the White House would have the right to enter with a Sig MCX. He denies any right of the government to restrict the supposed right to keep and bear any arms in any place and any time. Such has never been the law of this land, or any other that I know of. Once it is admitted that the government has the authority to restrict the right to keep and bear arms in one place, it follows that the government can use its authority for other places as it determines, e.g., courts. And my pet plant has been watered for another day.
#72. To: nolu chan (#71) Once it is admitted that the government has the authority to restrict the right to keep and bear arms in one place, it follows that the government can use its authority for other places as it determines, e.g., courts. I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe). -- Your authoritarian view gives them VIRTUALLY unlimited power.
#73. To: tpaine (#72) [nolu chan #71] Once it is admitted that the government has the authority to restrict the right to keep and bear arms in one place, it follows that the government can use its authority for other places as it determines, e.g., courts.
[tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe). You now admit that the government does have the power to pass laws restricting the right to keep and bear arms. And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? Perhaps a slight flaw in the system is that the Federal government decides whether something done by the Federal government is lawful or not. There have been state laws restricting the bearing of arms since 1813. Louisiana 1813
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#74. To: nolu chan (#73) tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right).
You now admit that the government does have the power to pass laws restricting the right to keep and bear arms.
Nope, they only have the power to reasonably regulate, NOT "restrict", as you so unreasonably shade the truth.
And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? The people, ultimately. -- If SCOTUS issues an opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution.
Perhaps a slight flaw in the system is that the Federal government decides whether something done by the Federal government is lawful or not. SCOTUS justices are pledged to honor the Constitution, not the federal government. -- And your misconception on this point tells a lot about why you're having mental problems with these issues.
#75. To: tpaine (#74) Toooooo bad for your extra crispy kookifornia. Wildfires for da libtards I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #76. To: GrandIsland (#75) Toooooo bad for your extra crispy kookifornia. Wildfires for da libtards Toooooo bad for your obsessions about California. -- Here in the northern mountains, no fires and its raining..
#77. To: tpaine (#76) (Edited) Until the fault-line gives away.... and the fruits and nuts are swept into the sea. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #78. To: GrandIsland (#77) Toooooo bad for your obsessions about California. -- Here in the northern mountains, no fires and its raining..
Until the fault-line gives away.... and the fruits and nuts are swept into the sea. Your fruity dreams are showing up again, grandiose. Get help for those mental aberrations.
#79. To: GrandIsland, -- As per the provisions of the 2nd Amendment, citizens of the United States shall have the right to carry arms capable of concealment in any public place in the United States of America, and nothing in State or local law shall infringe upon (#77)
The question remains, grandisland: ---' Could President Trump issue such a finding? Should he?
#80. To: tpaine (#79) I believe that state laws should out TRUMP federal laws and no law should infringe upon the spirit of any constitutional Amendment. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #81. To: GrandIsland (#80) 'As per the provisions of the 2nd Amendment, citizens of the United States shall have the right to carry arms capable of concealment in any public place in the United States of America, and nothing in State or local law shall infringe upon this directive.' The question remains grandisland: ---' Could President Trump issue such a finding?
Should he?
I believe that state laws should out TRUMP federal laws and no law should infringe upon the spirit of any constitutional Amendment. Confusing answer, - you agree that there is a right to carry concealed anywhere, -- BUT, -- that there can only be State laws to that effect? How do you propose to insure that ALL States comply ?
#82. To: tpaine (#81) I believe that state laws should out TRUMP federal laws and no law should infringe upon the spirit of any constitutional Amendment My answer is very simple. Read it slower if you don't understand. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #83. To: GrandIsland (#82) My answer is very simple --- Minded...
#84. To: tpaine (#74)
[tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right). You now admit that the government does have the power to pass laws REGULATING the keeping and bearing of arms. Perhaps you are the only cretin in the country who does not think gun regulations restrict the right to keep and bear arms. But if regulate makes you feel better, so be it. Who decides before a revolution or constitutional amendment whether a REGULATION is "reasonable" or if it "infringes" upon the right to keep and bear arms? For example, who decides whether a law or regulation prohibiting the carrying of handguns in a school zone is lawful and not infringing? Who ya gonna call, Ghostbusters?
[nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? Cooper v Aaron, 358 US 1 (1958)
It follows that the interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment enunciated by this Court in the Brown case is the supreme law of the land, and Art. VI of the Constitution makes it of binding effect on the States “any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.” Every state legislator and executive and judicial officer is solemnly committed by oath taken pursuant to Art. VI, cl. 3, “to support this Constitution.” Every state legislator and executive and judicial officer is solemnly committed by oath taken pursuant to Art. VI, cl. 3, “to support this Constitution,” as it has been enunciated by the U.S. Supreme Court. So sayeth the Court. And who, to us, do you believe meaningfully decides the lawfulness of a law or regulation within our lifetime, without waiting for a revolution, a constitutional amendment, or the Supreme Court overturning its existing precedent?
[tpaine #66] The BOR'S applies to the States, --- thus States do NOT have the power to declare gun free zones. There are declared gun free zones, upheld by the the U.S. Supreme Court. So, you believe the people (you) can simply ignore existing law and open carry your handgun in a school zone which has been declared a gun free zone. Good luck with that. I can't wait to hear your legal argument leading to your conviction.
[nolu chan #73] Perhaps a slight flaw in the system is that the Federal government decides whether something done by the Federal government is lawful or not. Then which justices in the history of the U.S. Supreme Court do you hold in respect and believe the court opinions they wrote or joined should be given respect? Can you name a few, or just one? Members of Congress and the President also pledge to honor the Constitution. All these pledges produced and upheld Obamacare. So, what is your point in saying they took a pledge? Do you believe your right to keep and bear arms is protected by their taking a pledge? If so, your right is protected by Ginsburg, Kagan, Sotomayor, Breyer, and Kennedy and Roberts. I'm surprised you have such faith in them and their pledge. There are now centuries of federal court opinions and it seems you have been unable to produce a single one that supports the crap you spew. You were reduced to this desperate grope:
[tpaine #66] Your latest reply, addressed to the above, rehashes the Nunn opinion.. Why? ---- Must you be so obsessed? Only to be met with:
Actually, my #65 makes no mention of or allusion to Nunn. Nunn was the case you repeatedly have claimed destroyed my position, oblivious to the fact that it was contrary to an existing U.S. Supreme Court opinion when made in a Georgia court, and was subsequently overturned by the Georgia Supreme Court about 140 years ago. Nonsense like your claim only destroys your credibility.
#85. To: nolu chan (#84) (Edited) Nolu, you are without a doubt, one of the craziest creeps I've ever had the good fortune to be entertained by, on the internet. Please, do continue your madness..
#86. To: tpaine (#85) [tpaine #85] Please, do continue your madness.. At your request, if that is what it takes to demonstrate you you are unable to make your case, or any case at all, other than your own dementia.
[tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right). You now admit that the government does have the power to pass laws REGULATING the keeping and bearing of arms. Perhaps you are the only cretin in the country who does not think gun regulations restrict the right to keep and bear arms. But if regulate makes you feel better, so be it. Who decides before a revolution or constitutional amendment whether a REGULATION is "reasonable" or if it "infringes" upon the right to keep and bear arms? For example, who decides whether a law or regulation prohibiting the carrying of handguns in a school zone is lawful and not infringing? Who ya gonna call, Ghostbusters?
[nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? So, you have no individual right until the collective people join your insanity and amend the Constitution to satisfy your dementia? Over time, of course.
#87. To: nolu chan (#86) I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right).
nolu chan #73] You now admit that the government does have the power to pass laws restricting the right to keep and bear arms. [tpaine #74] Nope, they only have the power to reasonably regulate, NOT "restrict", as you so unreasonably shade the truth.
[nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts?
The people, ultimately. -- If SCOTUS issues an opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, - -- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution.
So, you have no individual right until the collective people join you and amend the Constitution to satisfy you? Over time, of course. Collective? Your communitarian slip is showing. --- Nope, our right to arms exists, and when it is ignored, INDIVIDUAL Americans will rise up to see that rights are honored. Despite your efforts.
#88. To: tpaine (#87)
our right to arms exists, and when it is ignored, INDIVIDUAL Americans will rise up to see that rights are honored. So, YOU will carry YOUR weapon in a school zone or other place designated as a gun-free zone. I admire your bravery. Good luck with your defense after your arrest. Hmmmm, why are you still free? Did you mean some OTHER poor dumb bastard was supposed to do it?
#89. To: nolu chan (#88) So, YOU will carry YOUR weapon in a school zone or other place designated as a gun-free zone. I admire your bravery. Good luck with your defense after your arrest. You're the poor dumb bastard around here.
#90. To: tpaine (#89)
So, YOU will carry YOUR weapon in a school zone or other place designated as a gun-free zone. I admire your bravery. Good luck with your defense after your arrest. Well, I am definitely not dumb enough to take your legal advice, and it appears no third party is either, and that leaves just you, and it appears that not even you are actually so dumb, stupid, and ignorant as to act on the demented shit you post. [nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? [tpaine #74] The people, ultimately. -- If SCOTUS issues an opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution. I guess the only poor dumb bastard is tpaine, and the only people volunteering to get arrested for carrying in a designated gun free zone is the make believe people wandering about in the imagination of tpaine, acting upon his wingnuttery. You now admit that the government does have the power to pass laws regulating the right to keep and bear arms. And as to who decides what qualifies as an infringement, that is neither the courts nor the legislature, but the make believe people who exist only in the imagination of tpaine. Not tpaine. Definitely, not tpaine in Kookifornia. Kentucky 1813
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#91. To: nolu chan (#90) Did you mean some OTHER poor dumb bastard was supposed to do it? I've never asked you, or anyone else to take my legal advice, as I don't pretend to be a legal beagle, like you. Over our discussions here, it's my opinion you're probably a frustrated clown who's failed the bar exam numerous times, and are now posting out of your mom's basement, pretending to be a legal expert. Say it isn't true..
#92. To: tpaine (#91)
[nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? And I have pointed out that now your answer to "who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts?" is nobody but the make believe people who exist only in the imagination of tpaine. Indeed, if the recourse to an "opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution," this is a tacit admission that the Court is the proper authority to decide the issue. Only, in the demented world of tpaine, the Opinion of the Supreme Court only counts if it is approved by tpaine.
#93. To: nolu chan (#92) I've never asked you, or anyone else to take my legal advice, as I don't pretend to be a legal beagle, like you. Over our discussions here, it's my opinion you're probably a frustrated clown who's failed the bar exam numerous times, and are now posting out of your mom's basement, pretending to be a legal expert. Say it isn't true.. In reply, you've made it obvious you can't answer. Poor nolu, stuck in mommy's basement, pretending to be a legal expert...
#94. To: tpaine (#93) Poor, poor, pitiful tpaine. He was forced to "admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right)." When faced with the question of who decides what is an infringement, he is pathetically lost in space. [tpaine #91] I've never asked you, or anyone else to take my legal advice, as I don't pretend to be a legal beagle, like you.
[tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right). And I have pointed out that now your answer to "who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts?" is nobody but the make believe people who exist only in the imagination of tpaine. Indeed, if the recourse to an "opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution," this is a tacit admission that the Court is the proper authority to decide the issue. However, in the demented world of tpaine, the Opinion of the Supreme Court only counts if said opinion is approved by tpaine.
#95. To: nolu chan (#94) Poor nolu, stuck in mommy's basement, pretending to be a legal expert...
Say it isn't true.. In reply, you've made it obvious you can't answer.
#96. To: tpaine (#95) [tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right). [nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? [tpaine #74] The people, ultimately. -- If SCOTUS issues an opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution. http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46771&Disp=28#C28 [tpaine #28 - 2016-06-23, different thread at link]
The US Supreme Court has the authority to "interpret" the US Constitution, but their 'authority' is to issue opinions, -- opinions which are NOT binding on the legislative, -- or the executive branch. In tpaine's world of dementia, the people decide what infringes by seeing that judges are appointed that honor the Constitution. In tpaine's world of dementia, the the legislature and the executive may ignore any and all U.S. Supreme Court opinions. If one believes tpaine, that is, the judges of the courts decide what qualifies as an infringement by issuing opinions that the rest of the government is free to ignore. For example, in tpaine's world of dementia, President Obama is free to ignore the opinion affirming the Circuit Court in U.S. v. Texas (23 Jun 2016) and may continue with his policies regarding illegal aliens.
#97. To: nolu chan, plays the statist game. (#96) The US Supreme Court has the authority to "interpret" the US Constitution, but their 'authority' is to issue opinions, -- opinions which are NOT binding on the legislative, -- or the executive branch.
In tpaine's world, -- the people decide what infringes by seeing that judges are appointed that honor the Constitution. In tpaine's world, the the legislature and the executive may ignore any and all U.S. Supreme Court opinions. ---- If one believes tpaine, that is, the judges of the courts decide what qualifies as an infringement by issuing opinions that the rest of the government is free to ignore. --- For example, in tpaine's world, -- President Obama is free to ignore the opinion affirming the Circuit Court in U.S. v. Texas (23 Jun 2016) and may continue with his policies regarding illegal aliens.
Yep, Obama may do just that, --- at his political peril of impeachment. But impeachment will not happen this late in his term... Instead, President Trump will correct Obama's malfeasance. This is the way our republic is set up, despite nolu's statist opinions.
#98. To: tpaine (#97) [tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right). [nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? [tpaine #74] The people, ultimately. -- If SCOTUS issues an opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution. http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46771&Disp=28#C28 [tpaine #28 - 2016-06-23, different thread at link]
The US Supreme Court has the authority to "interpret" the US Constitution, but their 'authority' is to issue opinions, -- opinions which are NOT binding on the legislative, -- or the executive branch. [nolu chan #96]
In tpaine's world of dementia, the people decide what infringes by seeing that judges are appointed that honor the Constitution. In tpaine's world of dementia, the the legislature and the executive may ignore any and all U.S. Supreme Court opinions. [tpaine #97]
Yep, Obama may do just that, --- at his political peril of impeachment. But impeachment will not happen this late in his term... Instead, President Trump will correct Obama's malfeasance. tpaine logic. SCOTUS opinions are "NOT binding on the executive." The President may ignore them, but if he does, he can be tried and convicted by the Senate for having committed high crimes or misdemeanors and thrown out of office. Keep digging that hole.
#99. To: nolu chan (#98) If one believes tpaine, that is, the judges of the courts decide what qualifies as an infringement by issuing opinions that the rest of the government is free to ignore.
Yep, Obama may do just that, --- at his political peril of impeachment. But impeachment will not happen this late in his term... Instead, President Trump will correct Obama's malfeasance. This is the way our republic is set up...
Tpaine logic. SCOTUS opinions are "NOT binding on the executive." The President may ignore them, but if he does, he can be tried and convicted by the Senate for having committed high crimes or misdemeanors and thrown out of office. --- Keep digging that hole. What hole? -- You're now denying our 'separation of powers' concept? You must have attended the Moscow University Law School.
#100. To: tpaine (#99) [tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right). [nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? [tpaine #74] The people, ultimately. -- If SCOTUS issues an opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution. http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46771&Disp=28#C28 [tpaine #28 - 2016-06-23, different thread at link]
The US Supreme Court has the authority to "interpret" the US Constitution, but their 'authority' is to issue opinions, -- opinions which are NOT binding on the legislative, -- or the executive branch. [nolu chan #96]
In tpaine's world of dementia, the people decide what infringes by seeing that judges are appointed that honor the Constitution. In tpaine's world of dementia, the the legislature and the executive may ignore any and all U.S. Supreme Court opinions. [tpaine #97]
Yep, Obama may do just that, --- at his political peril of impeachment. But impeachment will not happen this late in his term... Instead, President Trump will correct Obama's malfeasance. [nolu chan #98] tpaine logic. SCOTUS opinions are "NOT binding on the executive." The President may ignore them, but if he does, he can be tried and convicted by the Senate for having committed high crimes or misdemeanors and thrown out of office. tpaine #99 - psychobabble. Keep digging that hole.
#101. To: nolu chan mimics roscoe (#100) tpaine logic. SCOTUS opinions are "NOT binding on the executive." The President may ignore them, but if he does, he can be tried and convicted by the Senate for having committed high crimes or misdemeanors and thrown out of office. --- Keep digging that hole.
What hole? -- You're now denying our 'separation of powers' concept?
You must have attended the Moscow University Law School.
psychobabble Finally you are reduced to one word idiotic replies, like roscoe. Congrats .
#102. To: tpaine (#101)
[tpaine #101] Finally you are reduced to one word idiotic replies, like roscoe. Only if you consider the below to be a single word. You have been reduced to a quivering chihuahua, hiding in a corner, sitting in a puddle of your own warm piss. I understand why a little ankle biter like you chooses to hide rather than confront the substance of your own bullshit. [tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right). [nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? [tpaine #74] The people, ultimately. -- If SCOTUS issues an opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution. http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46771&Disp=28#C28 [tpaine #28 - 2016-06-23, different thread at link]
The US Supreme Court has the authority to "interpret" the US Constitution, but their 'authority' is to issue opinions, -- opinions which are NOT binding on the legislative, -- or the executive branch. [nolu chan #96]
In tpaine's world of dementia, the people decide what infringes by seeing that judges are appointed that honor the Constitution. In tpaine's world of dementia, the the legislature and the executive may ignore any and all U.S. Supreme Court opinions. [tpaine #97]
Yep, Obama may do just that, --- at his political peril of impeachment. But impeachment will not happen this late in his term... Instead, President Trump will correct Obama's malfeasance. [nolu chan #98] tpaine logic. SCOTUS opinions are "NOT binding on the executive." The President may ignore them, but if he does, he can be tried and convicted by the Senate for having committed high crimes or misdemeanors and thrown out of office. tpaine #99 - psychobabble. Keep digging that hole.
#103. To: nolu chan (#102) psychobabble Finally you are reduced to one word idiotic replies, like roscoe. Congrats .
Only if you consider the below to be a single word. Well there you go again, trying to impress non existent readers with your boring repetitive legal opinions, none of which change the Constitution. Do you really imagine anyone reads them? Dream on...
#104. To: tpaine (#103)
Finally you are reduced to one word idiotic replies, like roscoe. Of course they do. For the same reason some people read the comic strips or enjoy cartoons, some will enjoy watching you make an ass of yourself as you are pathetically incapable of defending your legal absurdities. And beating the shit out of you once a day is fun, like hitting a hit-me doll that keep popping back up to be hit again. It's almost therapeutic, reminding you daily what a shithead your are, and observing your helplessness in (non)response. You are definitely as entertaining as the typical TV sitcom. As you say, everybody can legally just ignore SCOTUS decisions which bind nobody, and infringements of the Constitution and determined by the people, and corrected by the people who see that judges are appointed that honor our Constitution, so they can issue opinions that everybody can legally just ignore and which bind nobody. Your assholery is on display for all to see. Anyway, to repeat my "one word" reply, which you can only piss yourself about, [tpaine #101] Finally you are reduced to one word idiotic replies, like roscoe. Only if you consider the below to be a single word. You have been reduced to a quivering chihuahua, hiding in a corner, sitting in a puddle of your own warm piss. I understand why a little ankle biter like you chooses to hide rather than confront the substance of your own bullshit. [tpaine #72] I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right). [nolu chan #73] And who decides what qualifies as an infringement, tpaine or the legislature/courts? [tpaine #74] The people, ultimately. -- If SCOTUS issues an opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution. http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46771&Disp=28#C28 [tpaine #28 - 2016-06-23, different thread at link]
The US Supreme Court has the authority to "interpret" the US Constitution, but their 'authority' is to issue opinions, -- opinions which are NOT binding on the legislative, -- or the executive branch. [nolu chan #96]
In tpaine's world of dementia, the people decide what infringes by seeing that judges are appointed that honor the Constitution. In tpaine's world of dementia, the the legislature and the executive may ignore any and all U.S. Supreme Court opinions. [tpaine #97]
Yep, Obama may do just that, --- at his political peril of impeachment. But impeachment will not happen this late in his term... Instead, President Trump will correct Obama's malfeasance. [nolu chan #98] tpaine logic. SCOTUS opinions are "NOT binding on the executive." The President may ignore them, but if he does, he can be tried and convicted by the Senate for having committed high crimes or misdemeanors and thrown out of office. tpaine #99 - psychobabble. Keep digging that hole.
#105. To: nolu chan (#104) Well there you go again, trying to impress non existent readers with your boring repetitive legal opinions, none of which change the Constitution. Do you really imagine anyone reads them? Dream on...
Of course they do. For the same reason some people read the comic strips or enjoy cartoons, some will enjoy watching you make an ass of yourself as you are pathetically incapable of defending your legal absurdities.
For over 100 posts, on this thread alone, (and there are a LOT of other threads) we've exchanged opinions about legal absurdities. -- Obviously, I've defended my position, and you yours, --- But apparently , you imagine that repetitively posting our previous opinions proves you are 'the winner'. -- Instead, it proves you are delusional.
As you say, everybody can legally just ignore SCOTUS decisions which bind nobody, and infringements of the Constitution and determined by the people, and corrected by the people who see that judges are appointed that honor our Constitution, so they can issue opinions that everybody can legally just ignore and which bind nobody. Your being sarcastic, and simplistic, -- but yes, that's the way our system of checks and balances is supposed to work. Congrats again. You're finally getting a glimmer of the principles inherent in our Constitution.
#106. To: tpaine (#105) [tpaine #105]
For over 100 posts, on this thread alone, (and there are a LOT of other threads) we've exchanged opinions about legal absurdities. -- Obviously, I've defended my position, and you yours, --- But apparently , you imagine that repetitively posting our previous opinions proves you are 'the winner'. -- Instead, it proves you are delusional. No, you have just been taking an ass whipping every day while making no substantive response. [nolu chan #104] As you say, everybody can legally just ignore SCOTUS decisions which bind nobody, and infringements of the Constitution and determined by the people, and corrected by the people who see that judges are appointed that honor our Constitution, so they can issue opinions that everybody can legally just ignore and which bind nobody. [tpaine #105] Your [sic] being sarcastic, and simplistic, -- but yes, that's the way our system of checks and balances is supposed to work. This insanity is just indicative of your dementia. The Marilyn Mosby Professor of Law at the tpaine School for the Gifted sure has a demented idea about how the system of checks and balances is supposed to work. And, of course, once again the U.S. Supreme Court says you are full of shit. It almost gets monotonous watching the Federal courts smack the shit out of your douchebaggery. Ableman v. Booth, 62 U.S. (21 How.) 506 (1858)
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#107. To: nolu chan (#106)
[nolu chan #104] As you say, everybody can legally just ignore SCOTUS decisions which bind nobody, and infringements of the Constitution and determined by the people, and corrected by the people who see that judges are appointed that honor our Constitution, so they can issue opinions that everybody can legally just ignore and which bind nobody. You're being sarcastic, and simplistic, -- but yes, that's the way our system of checks and balances is supposed to work.
This is just indicative of your idea about how the system of checks and balances is supposed to work. And, of course, once again the U.S. Supreme Court says ----- Poor nolu, taking an ass whipping every day while making no substantive response. --- Opinions of the various courts, including the SCOTUS, do not change the principles inherent in our Constitution, -- checks and balances being very important among those principles.
#108. To: tpaine (#107) (Edited) [tpaine #107] You're being sarcastic, and simplistic, -- but yes, that's the way our system of checks and balances is supposed to work. Yes, of course, the system is supposed to work in a state of total chaos, like your mind. It is entertaining to watch your yukon bullshit and see how incapable you are at saying anything of substance. You are just batshit crazy. tpaine "COMMON SENSE" http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46639&Disp=104#C104
[nolu chan #104] As you say, everybody can legally just ignore SCOTUS decisions which bind nobody, and infringements of the Constitution and determined by the people, and corrected by the people who see that judges are appointed that honor our Constitution, so they can issue opinions that everybody can legally just ignore and which bind nobody. Because Benghazi! - - - - -
[tpaine #142] No, they all give opinions that apply to the case at hand, -- these opinions do NOT change the constitution. - - - - - http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46847&Disp=7#C7
In the long run, SCOTUS opinions don't mean much, as people,and the legislators they elect have the right to ignore them, and write new laws that circumvent their supposed edicts. tpaine posted on 2016-06-27 18:44:47 ET - - - - - http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46277&Disp=49#C49
The 2nd [Amendment] has always applied to the States, -- the 'incorporation' bull has just been used by statists to avoid compliance. tpaine posted on 2016-05-25 12:08:35 ET - - - - - http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46639&Disp=72#C72
I admit that our various levels of government have the power to make reasonable regulations on the bearing of arms (taking care that they do not infringe upon the right). tpaine posted on 2016-06-16 22:47:22 ET - - - - - http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46639&Disp=74#C74
-- If SCOTUS issues an opinion that infringes, the people, over time, --- ignore it, --- and see that judges are later appointed that honor our Constitution. tpaine posted on 2016-06-17 20:27:12 ET - - - - - http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46771&Disp=28#C28
The US Supreme Court has the authority to "interpret" the US Constitution, but their 'authority' is to issue opinions, -- opinions which are NOT binding on the legislative, -- or the executive branch. tpaine posted on 2016-06-23 21:26:13 ET - - - - - http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=40620&Disp=68#C68
nolu chan erroneously claims: -- - - - - - http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=40732
During a discussion with Nolu Chan, he asserted that an amendment repealing the 2nd could be ratified, and become a valid part of our Constitution. I contend such an amendment would be unconstitutional. - - - - - http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=40620&Disp=136#C136
Does the Court strike down this part of the Constitution as unconstitutional? - - - - -
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