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Title: With Trump as nominee, delegate spots lose appeal for Republicans
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/11/polit ... ck-out-donald-trump/index.html
Published: May 11, 2016
Author: Tal Kopan
Post Date: 2016-05-11 20:37:58 by Hondo68
Keywords: No appeal Donald, delegates quitting, Low to no energy
Views: 10488
Comments: 74

Trump's wild ride to take over the GOP

Trump's wild ride to take over the GOP 02:33

Story highlights

  • Some Republican delegates to July's convention are dropping out now that Donald Trump is the presumptive nominee
  • High-profile GOP lawmakers are already not going, and the trend is extending to other would-be delegates

Washington (CNN)Cleveland isn't the hot spot it once was.

For many prominent Republicans, a contested GOP national convention was the last hope for a nominee other than Donald Trump, and they were maneuvering to have a front-row seat to the gamesmanship.

    But with Trump now the presumptive nominee, a number of would-be delegates are quietly giving up their tickets to Ohio.
    Art Pope, a conservative donor and former backer of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, decided not to pursue a delegate spot after Trump won.
    "This morning, I withdrew my name from the nominating slate for the North Carolina Republican State Convention," Pope, a former state official, told CNN the day after Trump won Indiana. "At this point in time I do not plan to actively support Donald Trump, that's why I'm not going to the Republican National Convention."

    The dropouts come as the GOP is split over having Trump as its standard-bearer, with some Republicans questioning his temperament, conservative credentials and ability to defeat Hillary Clinton in November.

    North Carolina finalized its delegate slate last weekend at a state convention that Ted Cruz supporters had been prepared to dominate before he dropped out. Cruz's campaign was highly effective at getting loyalists named to delegate spots around the country, in many cases with supporters occupying delegate spots bound to Trump on the first ballot or second ballot but poised to switch loyalty on subsequent roll calls at a contested convention.
    Cruz delegate chief Ken Cuccinelli said the campaign has heard from some of its delegates that they no longer intended to vie for slots.
    "Yes, we've heard from a smattering of those and we're trying to get them to change their mind. That's an ongoing effort," Cucinnelli said.
    Cruz's campaign wants its existing and would-be delegates to continue the fight. It convened a conference call Monday night with supporters and urged them to continue to seek out spots in state delegations, especially on the Rules and Platform committees.
    In South Carolina, which also selected delegates the weekend after Trump's win, the mood at the state convention was described as somber.
    "The SCGOP convention feels like a wake. Only 57% turnout, even after alternates were seated. Feel the excitement for November," an adviser to former candidate Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Andrew Boucher, tweeted. A state party source confirmed that attendance was just over 50% of what was expected.
    The interest in delegate slots was also muted. South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham had intended to run for a spot as a supporter of Cruz, according to a sample ballot circulated to state delegates early last week shared with CNN.
    But Graham subsequently withdrew his name and publicly announced on CNN he would not back Trump or attend the national convention.

    Graham isn't the only big name staying home. Senators including Mark Kirk of Illinois and Jeff Flake and John McCain of Arizona have all said they won't go. Former Presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, along with former nominee Mitt Romney also will not attend.

    In Illinois, the delegate selection process has been underway for weeks, with a committee working on a recommended slate of at-large delegates for the state's GOP convention in late May.
    Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner, the highest-ranking Republican in the state and an improbable victor in the blue state's last gubernatorial election, was expected to chair the delegation.
    But right after Trump's Indiana win, Rauner's office informed local reporters he would not be attending. The move is expected to be echoed by most of the state's Republican leadership.
    "There were plenty of prominent Republicans who wanted to go, not to support Trump but to support someone on the second ballot, and once that potential evaporated, so did the interest in the convention," said Pat Brady, a former chairman of the state GOP.
    Brady was elected directly as a delegate for Ohio Gov. John Kasich in the state's primary, and as of Tuesday, still intended to go.
    According to two sources familiar with the New York GOP, a small number of interested delegates have made it known they no longer want to be a delegate. That state party selects delegates in small gatherings at the congressional district level and statewide level throughout May.
    And in Indiana, Joshua Claybourn, an Evansville lawyer involved in local Republican politics, said he will relinquish an RNC delegate slot he had already secured.
    "I will neither vote for, nor in any other way support, Mr. Trump," he said in an email to CNN. Claybourn pointed to Trump's positions on trade, free speech, and his lack of "a mature temperament needed at home and abroad."
    "I believe a Trump presidency would bring less peace, more economic hardship, and a greater deterioration of freedom and respect," Claybourn added. "I cannot in good conscience attend a convention supporting him."


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    #1. To: hondo68 (#0)

    I hope that the "grand ol' party" rots into total decay because of the shenanigans they played on Ron Paul in 2012.

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   20:53:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #2. To: buckeroo (#1)

    I hope that the "grand ol' party" rots into total decay because of the shenanigans they played on Ron Paul in 2012.

    Ron Paul is for legalizing Heroin. That is a sicko position.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   20:54:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #3. To: A K A Stone (#2)

    He was never "FOR" Heroin. You don't understand the IDEAL PRINCIPLE of an educated People.

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   21:00:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #4. To: buckeroo (#3)

    He was never "FOR" Heroin. You don't understand the IDEAL PRINCIPLE of an educated People.

    He is for it being legal. That isn't educated that is stupid. True liberty contains virtue.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:01:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #6. To: A K A Stone (#4)

    True liberty contains virtue.

    Where is the "virtue" of a nanny state that imprisons its citizens for being sick while stealing our tax dollars to fight silly, useless and failing "Drug Wars?"

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   21:03:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #9. To: buckeroo (#6)

    Ron Paul Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)

    Evil.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:05:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #11. To: A K A Stone (#9)

    Ron Paul Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)

    Are you reading these little one liners off some insignificant web site? They make no sense at all.

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   21:07:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #16. To: buckeroo (#11)

    Ron Paul Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004) Are you reading these little one liners off some insignificant web site? They make no sense at all.

    You can't comprehend that Ron Paul voted that it is ok to kill a pregnant woman's child in the commission of a crime? That isn't conservative it is liberal and quite evil.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:09:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #21. To: A K A Stone (#16)

    You can't comprehend ....

    You are attempting to play your silly games of badgering again, not realizing there is a limit of the POWER of government and we must permit educated people to exercise their OWN responsible decisions about their respective lives. cya later.

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   21:15:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #22. To: buckeroo (#21)

    You are attempting to play your silly games of badgering again,

    No we were having a good discussion. You ran away with your tail between your legs.

    Badgering is what I do to sneakypete.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:16:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #23. To: A K A Stone (#22)

    No you do not limit your POWER as a "moderator" to one or two posters. You play the fuckin' POWER game just like the slow creepin' US government.

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   21:25:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #24. To: buckeroo (#23)

    No you do not limit your POWER as a "moderator" to one or two posters. You play the fuckin' POWER game just like the slow creepin' US government.

    That is true at times.

    I tried to get redleg to help out. But he is to busy. I thought he would be fair. More fair than me.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:34:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #25. To: A K A Stone (#24)

    Shall we resume with our discussion, now?

    It is obvious that the US government has failed on many fronts that affect moral principles and i believe you resent it not just for the way of life you and your family were brought up but by the world around.

    The US government has taken the idea of individual liberty to absolute absurdity. The idea that anyone can use a publick toilet is just one of the absurd legal requirements.

    The US government uses the ACLU to pose these silly legal questions in the form of lawsuits against established principles. The ACLU is paid $250 an hour to provide these lawsuits .... did you know that?

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   21:42:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #26. To: buckeroo (#25)

    The idea that anyone can use a publick toilet is just one of the absurd legal requirements.

    The US government uses the ACLU to pose these silly legal questions in the form of lawsuits against established principles. The ACLU is paid $250 an hour to provide these lawsuits .... did you know that?

    So are you for against transvestites using the ladies room if they are men. From your statement I am not sure.

    I was thinking of going to Target to use the ladies room and piss on the seat and not flush.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:44:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #27. To: A K A Stone (#26)

    So are you for against transvestites using the ladies room if they are men. From your statement I am not sure.

    I am neither FOR or AGAINST a transvestite using a publick toilet. If they are near me, however, they will get a publick beating just for their proximity. Do you get it?

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   21:48:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #29. To: buckeroo (#27)

    I am neither FOR or AGAINST a transvestite using a publick toilet.

    I don't care if they use the rest room. Just use the right one. Or at least don't legislate them to have a right to use the wrong one.

    This is more than about going to the bathroom. It is about forcing us to accept their mental illness as normal and bless it.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:51:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #31. To: A K A Stone (#29)

    This is more than about going to the bathroom. It is about forcing us to accept their mental illness as normal and bless it.

    Good point. Have you noticed the recent acceleration of these social changes based on government dogma?

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   21:57:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #32. To: buckeroo (#31)

    Good point. Have you noticed the recent acceleration of these social changes based on government dogma?

    Yes since Obama came to office and all the dems flipped in 2 days.

    Sadly some people I support are questionable. I'll admit it.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   21:58:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #33. To: A K A Stone, hondo68 (#32)

    Sadly some people I support are questionable. I'll admit it.

    Trump is playing the same game; he is the worst kind of presidential personna; he understands POWER concentrated in his hands. Beware of Trump.

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   22:07:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #34. To: buckeroo (#33)

    Trump is playing the same game; he is the worst kind of presidential personna; he understands POWER concentrated in his hands. Beware of Trump.

    I think to him it isn't a big issue. He is focussed on other stuff and not pushing the fag agenda like the democrats.

    A K A Stone  posted on  2016-05-11   22:09:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #35. To: A K A Stone (#34)

    I think to him it isn't a big issue.

    It is to libertarians. I despise the guy.

    He is focussed on other stuff and not pushing the fag agenda like the democrats.

    Could be, but all politicians that inherit the Whorehouse have lied to us. Wanna wager? If you don't, you admit you can not approach the game of trump or other pretenders. If you do, you admit, politics is all over your head to understand.

    For the life of me I do not understand how or why people associate with political maggots. Trump is one of them.

    buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-11   22:20:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #36. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#35)

    It is to libertarians. I despise the guy.

    I can understand that because Libertarians are hateful people.

    Libertarians are certainly a different breed.

    They may look the same. They may use the same language. They put our pants on one leg at a time… Most of them, anyway.

    Libertarians are very strange and libertarianism does not make any anthropological or historical sense.

    But they certainly have a unique way of thinking though to rationalize to fit their purpose and agenda.

    Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-11   23:02:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #49. To: Gatlin, hondo68, buckeroo (#36)

    But they certainly have a unique way of thinking though to rationalize to fit their purpose and agenda.

    It has already been pointed out to you that you don't possess enough intelligence to understand what libertarianism is, so I won't repeat it.

    However to simplify it for you : Libertarianism in One Sentence

    ...to demonstrate that our ideas are not as crazy as they appear and hopefully make a few moderates take a moment to think, with an open mind, about libertarianism, I have attempted to boil the philosophy down to one sentence, a simple question. While I do not presume to speak for the community as a whole, this is what libertarianism is all about for me on a personal level. The sentence is this:

    Is it right to imprison people, robbing them of their liberty, when they have harmed no one and violated no property rights?

    That’s it. That’s all there is to the philosophy. If you think the answer to that question is “no,” then you are a libertarian. For me, it’s a no-brainer. It is horrific to me to think of people being locked away in a cage who have done no harm to anyone else. Yet we are constantly doing this, or else threatening to do so.

    In addition, you may want to consider this : Other people are not your property

    In other words: They are not yours to boss around. Their lives are not yours to micromanage. The fruits of their labour are not yours to dispose of. It doesn't matter how wise or marvelous or useful it would be for other people to do whatever it is you'd like them to do. It is none of your business whether they wear their seatbelts, worship the right god, have sex with the wrong people, or engage in market transactions that irritate you.

    Their choices are not yours to direct. They are human beings like yourself, your equals under Natural Law. You possess no legitimate authority over them. As long as they do not themselves step over the line and start treating other people as their property, you have no moral basis for initiating violence against them ' nor for authorising anyone else to do so on your behalf. The basic principle of civilised social intercourse was stated in 1646 by Richard Overton

    Deckard  posted on  2016-05-12   8:44:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #54. To: Deckard (#49)

    However to simplify it for you : Libertarianism in One Sentence

    I will characterize libertarians in one sentence:
    Libertarians are not at all serious … they are just a bunch of ideological kooks.

    Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-12   9:08:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #59. To: Gatlin (#54)

    I will characterize libertarians in one sentence:

    You never answered the question, ass clown.

    Is it right to imprison people, robbing them of their liberty, when they have harmed no one and violated no property rights?

    Deckard  posted on  2016-05-12   9:47:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


    #60. To: Deckard (#59)

    Is it right to imprison people, robbing them of their liberty, when they have harmed no one and violated no property rights?

    I will not even consider such a complex question with your controversial presuppositions that has an unspoken and emotive implication.

    Take your loaded question and … SHOVE IT!

    Gatlin  posted on  2016-05-12   10:02:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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