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Title: The GOP ruined conservatism long before Trump: Why they still don’t get it
Source: Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/2016/05/10/the ... mp_why_they_still_dont_get_it/
Published: May 10, 2016
Author: Sean Illing
Post Date: 2016-05-10 13:28:34 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 439
Comments: 7

Trump's nomination means the Republican Party is already lost —
and that descent started long ago

The Republican Party has experienced a good deal of success in the last three decades or so. They’ve won elections, they’ve raised ungodly sums of money, they’ve subverted democracy via redistricting, and they’ve expertly dictated the political and cultural narratives. What they haven’t done is govern effectively or, more importantly, conservatively.

This is true at both the national and state levels. Modern conservative mythology begins with Reagan, a man who tripled the federal budget deficit (which shot up to $3 trillion during his tenure) and raised taxes 11 times during the course of his presidency. Reagan didn’t shrink the size of government or grow the middle class. On the contrary, he made government more bloated, more defense-oriented, more corporatist. George W. Bush’s 8 years in office were similarly disastrous: more corporate welfare, more debt, more Utopian military campaigns, more disorder.

Today Republican governors are plunging – or have plunged – their states into one abyss after another, all under the banner of conservatism. There are almost too many examples to cite: Sam Brownback in Kansas; Bobby Jindal in Louisiana; Rick Snyder in Michigan; Phil Bryant in Mississippi; Scott Walker in Wisconsin; Chris Christie in New Jersey; Paul LePage in Maine; Rick Scott in Florida. The list goes on and on and on.

The point is obvious enough: The conservative brand is tainted.

Now that Donald Trump has hijacked the Republican Party, the conservative intelligentsia is apoplectic. Trump isn’t a real conservative, they say. He’s ideologically incoherent, they say. The assumption is that Trump is an aberration, a chimera born of anti-establishment rage. Or that he’s a threat to the “conservative movement” rather than its natural outgrowth.

Consider the latest Wall Street Journal op-ed by conservative columnist Bret Stephens. Stephens writes:

“The best hope for what’s left of a serious conservative movement in America is the election in November of a Democratic president, held in check by a Republican Congress. Conservatives can survive liberal administrations, especially those whose predictable failures lead to healthy restorations…What isn’t survivable is a Republican president who is part Know Nothing, part Smoot-Hawley and part John Birch. The stain of a Trump administration would cripple the conservative cause for a generation.”

There are two problems with this. First, there’s a disconnect between establishment Republicans and conservative voters. If you watch Fox News or listen to right-wing radio, it’s clear that the base isn’t animated by a coherent worldview. Many self-identify as conservative, but their conservatism is a vague stew of cultural resentment, religious certainty, and half-baked talking points. There is no consistent “conservative cause” to preserve. And if there is a genuine conservative coalition, the Know Nothings and the John Birchers are now central to it. Indeed, the GOP has cultivated these wings since its adoption of the “Southern Strategy” roughly 50 years ago.

Second, to the extent that conservative ideas have been implemented in recent years, they haven’t worked. The “conservative cause” is already crippled. Neoliberal economics, which is what conservative elites support, has gutted the country and the working class. The trade deals, the tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, the privatization schemes – have redistributed wealth upwards at the expense of everyone else.

“Conservatives,” Stephens writes, are “supposed to believe that it’s folly to put hope before experience,” but they’ve put ideological dogma over empirical reality for decades. “Trickle-down” economics didn’t work for Reagan (revenue decreased and unemployment spiked to 10.8 percent after his initial 1981 tax cuts, for example) and it didn’t work for the Bush administrations. And yet GOP presidential candidates speak as though the contrary were true, as though history doesn’t exist.

One can argue that this isn’t classical conservatism; that real conservatism involves prudence, a pragmatic respect for existing institutions, and careful responsiveness to change. But that’s not what passes as conservatism. Today’s “conservatives” are hopelessly wedded to discredited abstractions. When elected, their ideas have failed. Now voters are revolting against the establishment and choosing instead to embrace the ethno-nationalism of Trump.

Stephens writes that “A Trump presidency means losing the Republican Party.” I disagree. Trump’s nomination means the Republican Party is already lost. Or perhaps it was never found. The GOP has been ideologically fractured since at least the early ’80s, when it morphed into a quasi-religious movement. The Wall Street Journal editorial board cares about tax policy and capital gains, but the Republican base doesn’t. The people voting for Trump are losers in the new economy to be sure, but they’re animated by cultural angst and identity-based fears as much as anything else. Republicans have exploited their base in similar ways for years; Trump has just taken it to another level.

I’m not sure what a Trump presidency really means. But it’s not the death knell for conservatism. The GOP ruined conservatism long before Trump. If people like Stephens want to save conservatism, they need a new party, not a new candidate.

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

I’m not sure what a Trump presidency really means.

Then I will tell you:

It means the victory of nationalism over internationalism. American law, American government, American tax and government and legal policies, will explicitly favor American citizens and things domiciled in America over foreign people and foreign based entities on anything that involves money, law, power, and anything else. In America, Americans are first class citizens, and everybody else is not a citizen, and does not have the same rights and privileges in business as Americans. It's our country, and in it, we set the rules to favor us. Period.

We've heard the opposing view and been ruled by it for 45 years. It has failed us and so we are going back to another view, one in which we use our sovereignty and the control of our laws to favor ourselves. And if you don't like that, you lose.

Second: it means the victory of populism over professionalism. Think that you know better than the people? You may be right, but it's irrelevant. This is a democracy - not simply a republic, but a DEMOCRATIC republic. Hamilton loved his republic, with its limited franchise. But Trump is Jackson, and democracy is king. Government policies will be what the majority of people want. Minorities will be protected as far as rights go, but the notion that RICH minorities get to hide behind procedures to set policies beneficial to their narrow class at the expense of the broad People is over. The interests of the People come first. And that will mean, in part, clawing back some of the excessive wealth concentration that the rich minorities allocated to themselves through the republican power system. They don't get to keep all of their ill-gotten gains. The People are going to take SOME of it back. (The Democrats, of course, will take ALL of it back and then some - so it is best for the rich to play ball with the democratic nationalists, because democratic nationalists are not nearly as hellbent on the redistribution thing as Democrat socialists.

But there certainly WILL be some wealth redistribution from the rich down to the middle class and working class. This will be so because there isn't enough money to pay for everything, and the rich have gotten a great ride for a long time. They acted like pigs and nearly wrecked the country, but the People have taken power back, and are going to right the ship - and to do that they are going to claw back a good sized portion of the unfair distribution to the rich.

Now, the rich will keep mouthing their failed ideology, but the populists are no longer listening, and do not care. This is a democratic republic, not simply a republic. The Republicans overplayed the republic part, and turned it into a crony capitalist state. The people are turning it back into a democratically-governed republic with a broad social welfare state and reasonable working conditions.

That's the way it is, and nothing will stop it. The rich trying to stage a third-party run to stop Trump won't stop it. They will merely make themselves really, REALLY hated when Trump wins without them, and it will be MUCH easier, then, for the populist victors to ratchet up taxes on the rich 5% higher than they WOULD HAVE BEEN had the rich not played Marie Antoinette.

The nobility in France could not help themselves - they were so accustomed to ruling they HAD to overreach, and so what could have been a haircut turned into beheadings. The Republican Establishment seems hellbent on making the same error.

But nationalist populists under Trump are not going to cut off anybody's head. We're just going to win and make America great again.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-05-10   15:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

We've heard the opposing view and been ruled by it for 45 years.

LOL. Ask Manafort and Stone why that is.

stonezone.com/docs/WS_RS_ article.pdf

VxH  posted on  2016-05-10   18:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#0)

The GOP has NEVER owned "conservatism." However, the GOP has owned the outright theft of individual liberties, freedoms, rights and dignities along with their good bed buddies, the Democrats.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-05-10   21:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#0)

Trump's nomination means the Republican Party is already lost — and that descent started long ago

Absolutely. Trump has never profited from any original thought. He is a parasite that steps in after someone else has already created a situation,and takes advantage of it.

He is more of a vulture than an eagle.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-05-13   8:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#3)

The GOP has NEVER owned "conservatism." However, the GOP has owned the outright theft of individual liberties, freedoms, rights and dignities along with their good bed buddies, the Democrats.

It hasn't always been that way,but it is always that way now.

We are,and have been ever since that evil bastard Poppy Bush took office,a One Party Nation with two branches competing to see who gets to steal the most money from the public treasury.

Conservatives managed to scare the hell out of them when Newt Gingrich organized the CONSERVATIVE take-over of Congress for the first time in 40 years,but the ruling elites obviously found some blackmail on him or someone he loves,and got him booted out of office for what amounts to a parking ticket. Not only booted out of office,but booted off all editorial pages and political tv shows for years. He wasn't allowed back on public view until he proved he was owned and would cause them no more trouble.

Damn shame because he is clearly one of the brightest politicians of my lifetime,and had a pretty solid lock on the Presidency if he had been allowed to remain in office.

They booted him and damn near every other conservative out of federal offices by Dims switching party registrations and taking over control of the Republican Party from within.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-05-13   8:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#4)

He is more of a vulture than an eagle.

He's a fraud... a trojan horse who will betray, backstab & swindle the gullible fools who voted for him.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-05-13   9:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Willie Green (#6)

He's a fraud... a trojan horse who will betray, backstab & swindle the gullible fools who voted for him.

Which means he is really no different from either Bush or either Clinton.

Same old product,but with new packaging.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-05-13   9:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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