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politics and politicians Title: Cruz shocks his supporters with a sudden exit NDIANAPOLIS — Moments before Ted Cruz publicly ended a campaign for president that had lasted more than a year, he stood backstage and thanked his closest friends, supporters and advisers for their help and support. Some sat at round tables. Conservative commentator and TV host Glenn Beck stood and watched. A bar table covered with Starbucks cups and an ironing board with an upright iron stood off to the side. When Cruz finished speaking, the group of about 50 people applauded — several of them wiping away tears — and Cruz’s campaign manager, Jeff Roe, walked away from them, looking down, and shook his head. Cruz’s speech to a group of a few hundred devoted followers from the main stage minutes later was met with disbelief and anguish. “From the beginning, I’ve said that I would continue on as long as there was a viable path to victory,” Cruz said. Murmurs rose in the audience. “I’m sorry to say,” Cruz said — and cries of “No, no!” rang out — “it appears that path has been foreclosed.” This brought an even louder “NO!” As Cruz announced that he was suspending his campaign “with a heavy heart,” a girl of about 12 began to sob. Her father stood nearby with his hand over his mouth and said, “What are you doing?” Cruz sought to reassure his followers inside the Grand Hall Ballroom of the Crowne Plaza hotel. “Hear me now: I am not suspending our fight for liberty,” he said. His father and mother, divorced 20 years ago but standing next to one another on this night, stood behind him. A gaggle of Cruz’s campaign staff stood 20 feet from the stage, many of them red-eyed. After Cruz finished his speech, he began to greet supporters in the front of the crowd, but then abruptly returned backstage after just a few moments, apparently too emotional to continue. Poster Comment: Say it Cruz.... PRESIDENT TRUMP Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest I think Cruz has just handed the election to Hilliary
#2. To: paraclete (#1) (Edited) I think Cruz has just handed the election to Hilliary You mean you HOPE Cruz just handed the election to KILLary. Here is a newsflash.... Trump will destroy her with the popular vote by such a landslide that she doesn't even have a chance with the electoral college set up. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #3. To: Deckard, hondo68, buckeroo (#0) Remember when you Paultards kept posting how Trump would never be the Republican Party choice.... with all your vast conspiracy theories of how they were going to keep him out? You based your bullshit on the ball kicking that Ron Paultard got by the (R) party... but the big difference between Paultard and Trump is POPULARITY. It's called VIABILITY... you know, a word I used a million times at LP on the rabid Paultard threads. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #4. To: GrandIsland (#2) " Trump will destroy her with the popular vote by such a landslide that she doesn't even have a chance with the electoral college set up. " Well, I do not know by how much of a margin, but I do believe Trump will beat her. Forget the fabricated polls. Consider this. At Trump rally's, turn out is in the thousands. At Hillary rally's, you could not fill a phone booth. Hell, just the other day in W.Va, a democrat state, one town sent word for her to stay away, that she was not welcome. I think Trump will thump her. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur #5. To: GrandIsland (#2) (Edited) You mean you HOPE Cruz just handed the election to KILLary. Not true, I doubt another term for the crats is in the best interest of the US, but what you have here is Hobsons choice, the devil you know and the devil you don't know. With Hilliary you get more of the same, with Dump noone knows, If he gets a house or a senate against him, he would be very unpredictable
#6. To: GrandIsland (#0) " Cruz shocks his supporters with a sudden exit " Last night, I thought that Mark Levin was fairly calm, and even handed. He was obviously disappointed, but pretty rational. He even criticized a couple of callers that claimed they would not support Trump, would vote for Hillary, or would stay home. Today, I suspect that Glen Beck and his toady crew will be wailing, crying, slinging snot, pulling their hair out, be beating on each other with riding crops, destroying the interior of their studio, screaming that they hate the people of Indiana, will be claiming the people of Indiana are devil worshipers, and be sticking pens in voodoo dolls of Trump. Then will commit group suicide. This will very likely be the end of the Glen Beck show. Good, maybe he will be replaced by someone worth listening to. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur #7. To: Stoner (#6) I wonder if Rush will do his show today or stay home in mourning. I've been a Rush fan since day one. I bought his books and have read them more than once. I tune in every opportunity I get. BUT, he lost me with his thinly-veiled support for Cruz. And now it has me wondering about what Rush truly believes in. Oh, he talks the talk all right. Then along comes Trump who promises to do exectly what Rush has been calling for and Rush gets cold feet. Could it be that Rush really supports the Washington status quo? That he's afraid of the change he's been calling for? Whatever the reason, he just lost a fan.
#8. To: Stoner (#4) Hell, just the other day in W.Va, a democrat state It use to to a Democrat State before the Democratic party took full turn left. They have pretty much been republican since 2000. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president #9. To: no gnu taxes (#8) " They have pretty much been republican since 2000. " I don't know about that. Its looks like the state is pretty heavily controlled by d-rats to me. I have family there, and they will tell you the same. However, I suspect that the state will become Republican. I hear that the current crop of D-Rat officials, and Union Officials are very concerned. I had a family member get into it with some of his local Union Officials. Uncle said he told the local Pres " You SOB, you wanted the n*gger, you got the n*gger , I hope you and the rest choke on him. " Uncle said he tried to tell them what Obunghole would do to them, but they did not believe it. " Last I looked, the governor is a d-rat. And I have been told that Logan WV, the town that said Hillary is not welcome there, is D-Rat territory. But like I said before, I suspect the state is going to go GOP. It has always amazed me that Obunghole bragged blatantly about bankrupting coal, and still won big in coal areas of WV, KY, etc. It is a testament to the blind loyalty & stupidity of democrat voters! I suspect that there are at least a few that are waking up. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur #10. To: GrandIsland, Ready for Hillary, Ready for Bruce Jenner (#3)
.... would never be President. He won't. Trump is a Mitt Romney clone... progressive NE libtard authoritarian, Bruce Jenner hugging, transsexual bathroom loving, wannabe global tyrant, but mostly a shill for the D wing of the party, Obama, Hillary, and Bernie Sanders. I never supported Cruz, that's a figment of your imagination because you're stupid enough to believe that YOU have to choose between Trump or Cruz. You don't have to vote for either POS. They both equal Hillary, because they're both LOSERS! You're a shill for Hillary. You deserve Hillary, but we don't.
The GrandIsland Nation ![]() #11. To: misterwhite (#7) " I've been a Rush fan since day one. I bought his books and have read them more than once. I tune in every opportunity I get. BUT, he lost me with his thinly-veiled support for Cruz. " Rush has always walked a thin line, trying to placate his listeners ( who pay the bills), and at the same time, carry water for his establishment buddies. I always enjoyed listening to Rush. But make no mistake, he carries water for the establishment. He wants to be in the club, playing golf with them, being invited to & being the center of attention at their parties. When Bush Sr was in the WH, & Jr, Rush really enjoyed & relished being invited to the WH, staying in the Lincoln BR, etc, etc. He really liked dropping references to his socializing with them, and being part of the inside group. I still remember when he at first warmed to Pat Buchanan, but turned on a dime, I suspect someone in the Bush camp got to him. If you remember, at one time Mary Matlin was a frequent guest host. A lot of the listeners liked her. But when she married Carville the Snake, the listeners were very upset. That was the end of her setting in. It was just too in your face, the collusion of D's & R's. I will continue to listen to him, I suspect you will too. I still think he has good analysis on a lot of topics. But, a word of caution, be suspicious. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur #12. To: Stoner (#11) "I will continue to listen to him, I suspect you will too." I will listen to him today. For sure. But that's just my schadenfreude kicking in. Speaking of guest hosts, Mark Belling was also my favorite. Living in northern Illinois, I pick him up from Milwaukee all the time. But he is virulently anti-Trump, along with the other talk hosts at WISN. Trump did interviews with two of them when he was campaigning in Milwaukee, and they were brutal. So, my eyes are opening and the list is growing. These people talk a good game but show their establishment leanings when a true patriot comes along. They utterly disgust me.
#13. To: misterwhite (#12) " the list is growing. These people talk a good game but show their establishment leanings when a true patriot comes along. They utterly disgust me. " Yeah, I hear ya. I lost if for Mark Belling pretty quick. Have you ever listened to Mike Church? I listen to him on line instead of Beck. I always liked Walter Williams when he would set in for Rush, but have not heard him in a long time. I am curious to hear how Rush acts today. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur #14. To: GrandIsland (#2) Here is a newsflash.... Trump will destroy her with the popular vote by such a landslide that she doesn't even have a chance with the electoral college set up. You sure about that?
#15. To: GrandIsland (#0) I heard both of them are quite upset.
#16. To: Stoner (#13) "I am curious to hear how Rush acts today." He started off his show by saying he was going to discuss what went wrong.
#17. To: paraclete, GrandIsland (#1) I think Cruz has just handed the election to Hilliary I think Cruz just got handed his own ass. Cruz never had any ability to hand the election to anyone.
#18. To: GrandIsland (#3) I'm pretty sure a lot of those Paultards are now Trumptards.
#19. To: misterwhite (#7) Then along comes Trump who promises to do exectly what Rush has been calling for and Rush gets cold feet. like what ? Shrinking the size of the nanny state ? Oh, miserable mortals! Oh wretched earth! Oh, dreadful assembly of all mankind! Eternal sermon of useless sufferings! Deluded philosophers who cry, “All is well,” Hasten, contemplate these frightful ruins, (Voltaire) #20. To: hondo68 (#10) Trump is a Mitt Romney clone... progressive NE libtard authoritarian, Bruce Jenner hugging, transsexual bathroom loving But with more testosterone - and a hotter wife. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. #21. To: misterwhite (#12) So, my eyes are opening and the list is growing. These people talk a good game but show their establishment leanings when a true patriot comes along. They utterly disgust me. Just wait for the fawning lib media to turn up the heat which gave Trump a pass during the primaries. They have sharpened their daggers.
#22. To: misterwhite, Stoner (#7) I've been a Rush fan since day one. I bought his books and have read them more than once. I tune in every opportunity I get. BUT, he lost me with his thinly-veiled support for Cruz. It became difficult to listen to Rush shilling for Cruz.
I've been a Rush fan since day one. I bought his books and have read them more than once. I tune in every opportunity I get. BUT, he lost me with his thinly-veiled support for Cruz. A recent example of apologist Rush Limbaugh:
It was this morning on Fox & Friends, Donald Trump speaking with Ainsley Earhardt, who said, "Ted Cruz's father says people should vote with the body of Christ, and that needs to vote for his son. Do you think that resonates, Mr. Trump?" And,
This guy was no different than a Code Pink protester, and so that's that. It didn't work out because that idiot Trump voter bested Ted Cruz. The audio was just fine. Wat a lame excuse that was. Rush was correct that Cruz, with deliberate calculation, decided to create a viral video to own a news cycle. Cruz succeeded at creating a viral video, but he was on the losing end of it. It was rather akin to viewing The Rocky Horror Picture Show where a voice in the crowd fills in the spaces where dialogue is missing. [Cruz] This country would be better off if (pause) [Cruz] A question that everyone here should ask (pause) [Cruz] Do you want your kids repeating the words of Donald Trump? In announcing Carly Fiorina as his VP pick, And if I am nominated for President of the United States, I will run (pause) (long pause) a ticket (pause) (long pause) with my vice-presidential nominee, Carly Fiorina. Normal humans do not talk that way. Cruz speaks as if his every word is part of a Princeton debate. Cruz apparently spends half his waking hours looking at himself in a mirror, and practicing his canned little speeches and expressions. His speech on anything exhibits his deliberate and repeated insertion of a caesura (pregnant pause), and his ability to say anything and follow it with a weird rictus planted upon his face.
#23. To: redleghunter (#21) "Just wait for the fawning lib media to turn up the heat which gave Trump a pass during the primaries." The "fawning lib media ... which gave Trump a pass during the primaries"??? Trump hates the media for a reason, and it's not because they're "fawning" over him. Now, I suppose if you want to compare Trump's treatment by the media to his treatment by establishment Republicans, then yes, the lib media treated him better than his own party did.
#24. To: hondo68, GrandIsland (#10) They both equal Hillary, because they're both LOSERS! Who will be the WINNER in November?
#25. To: nolu chan (#22) Cruz succeeded at creating a viral video, but he was on the losing end of it ... It was rather akin to viewing The Rocky Horror Picture Show where a voice in the crowd fills in the spaces where dialogue is missing." It was similar to Richard Nixon's early morning visit with protesters at the Lincoln Memorial. That didn't go too well either. What really pissed me off about that confrontation was Cruz's dishonesty. Cruz asked the guy why he liked Trump. The guy responded "immigration". Cruz then said that Trump told the New York Times that he had no intention of doing that. Lie! Trump had an off-the-record interview with the New York Times in January, 2016. There is rumor and speculation about what Trump discussed. One of them is that Trump said he's not going to build a wall.
#26. To: Stoner, misterwhite (#11) Rush has always walked a thin line, trying to placate his listeners ( who pay the bills), and at the same time, carry water for his establishment buddies. That is correct and has been evident as least s far back as the Bob Dole compaign. That campaign was dead and buried long before the November election, but Rush dutifully continued to wave his pom-poms. It was almost embarrassing.
I still think he has good analysis on a lot of topics. Also correct.
#27. To: misterwhite (#25) What really pissed me off about that confrontation was Cruz's dishonesty. Don't miss this one. From Lyin' Ted to Sunglasses Man, a long debunked claim:
May I ask you something? Out of all the candidates, name one who had a million-dollar judgment against them for hiring illegal immigrants. Name one. Donald Trump is the only one. Cruz, the attorney, surely knew his debunked charge was false. There never was a million dollar judgment. There was a judgment for $325,000 plus interest. The case involved a contractor (not Trump) who hired illegal Polish immigrants about 35 years ago. The litigation was very protracted. The cited judgment was set aside and a new trial ordered. Trump never paid a dime of that $325,000 judgment. The case started as Diduck v. Kaszycki & Sons Contractors, Inc. After the death of Diduck, the case proceeded with Hardy as the named complainant. The cited judgment (for $325,000) was issued in 1991, but was set aside in 1994. In Hardy v. Kaszycki and Sons Contractors, Inc., No. 83 Civ. 6346 (KTD), 870 F. Supp. 489 (1994):
In the instant motion, there is a genuine issue of material fact that requires a trial to determine whether the Plaintiffs are entitled to restitution from the Trump Defendants. Specifically, the trier must determine whether the Trump Defendants were unjustly enriched by benefitting from Local 95's continued labor without making contributions to the Funds for the Polish workers. The case was ended by a sealed settlement agreement in 1999, without judicial determination that the plaintiffs were entitled to any restitution from Trump.
#28. To: hondo68, GraandIsland (#10) Trump is a Mitt Romney clone Mitt Romney is a Gordon Gekko clone. Donald Trump built things. Romney is a vulture capitalist. Romney's big attack on Trump fell flat. The people responded with a resounding STFU.
#29. To: redleghunter, misterwhite (#21) Just wait for the fawning lib media to turn up the heat which gave Trump a pass during the primaries. The media pronounced the Trump campaign dead over and over. The media pronounced Trump had some silly ceiling over and over, only to have Trump break on through it. The GOPe, notably Jeb Bush, spent a few hundred million dollars in attack ads. The people did not buy the GOPe bullcrap. They will not buy the lib media bullcrap, when it materializes. It's about the economy, not insider party games.
#30. To: misterwhite (#12) So, my eyes are opening My eyes have been open or years when it comes to control of the GOP by the rich. But my eyes were really opened this campaign cycle regarding the "pro-life" aspect of the GOP. I was confused by the public reaction to Trump's rather obvious comment that if abortion were outlawed and a woman went and had an abortion, of course she would be punished. That this was controversial ON THE RIGHT bewildered me. It was actually right here on this board that a particular long-time poster, Too Conservative, suddenly crystallized it for me. "Pro-life" in Republican mouths is just a permanent campaign position, a thing they know will never happen, but that will always get them votes.
#31. To: Vicomte13, misterwhite (#30)
Trump's rather obvious comment that if abortion were outlawed and a woman went and had an abortion, of course she would be punished. Of course, the punditocracy failed to note the hypothetical "if abortion were outlawed" and misrepresented Trump's response as being his opinion regarding current law or all cases. Trump addressed the dishonesty of the pundits and the people moved on. After more such nonsense the pundits found, to their dismay, that the people were not paying much attention to them any more.
#32. To: hondo68 (#10) He won't. Trump is a Mitt Romney clone... Then you'll have no problem committing suicide if he wins. Sounds like a sure bet for you.
Ok, ok, ok. I doubt you'll make my day and off yourself... I'll settle for you will leave LF if Trump wins presidency... as a penalty for being WRONG, again. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #33. To: Logsplitter (#18) I'm pretty sure a lot of those Paultards are now Trumptards. I'm not so sure about that. It's impossible to make a Paultard happy. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #34. To: GrandIsland (#0) https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz/posts/10154485146040681
Andy Borowitz 21 hrs ·
#35. To: nolu chan (#34) (Edited) Fiorina Cruz was desperate. His sleazy pedophile type voice turned off the female vote... so he found a bimbo to increase his popularity. Stick him in the Ron Paultard drawer... filled with unpopular junk. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #36. To: nolu chan (#29) It's about the economy, not insider party games. It's now about campaigning. The state run media will no longer give Trump the access he had in the primaries.
#37. To: redleghunter (#36)
It's now about campaigning. If that were true, Trump would be a sure thing. Hillary is a god awful campaigner.
The state run media will no longer give Trump the access he had in the primaries. Nonsense. The networks make gobs of money by having Trump appear. Trump generates ratings.
#38. To: GrandIsland, hondo68 (#2) Here is a newsflash.... Trump will destroy her with the popular vote by such a landslide that she doesn't even have a chance with the electoral college set up. Good grief. Are you still laboring under the delusion that your vote MATTERS? Hillary is the Luciferian global elite's pick for the next POTUS. You really don't thing these things are decided by the peons, do you? “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#39. To: nolu chan (#29) The media pronounced the Trump campaign dead over and over. Both statements are true. However, through all their naysaying Trump had access. That access will now be considerably curtailed, which means he must campaign vigorously in all the battle ground states.
#40. To: misterwhite (#7) Could it be that Rush really supports the Washington status quo? You just figured that out now Einstein? “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#41. To: Vicomte13 (#30) I was confused by the public reaction to Trump's rather obvious comment that if abortion were outlawed and a woman went and had an abortion, of course she would be punished. You are correct...Trump answered that question in 'black and white' terms. He answered the question as an owner CEO would answer it...very decisively. He answered the question in the frame of 'if I were king or emperor things would be this way.' He quickly realized if elected President he would not be an emperor or king and cannot make his own laws by fiat. Trump then adjusted his view to not only let the woman off the hook for aborting a child but allowing such in cases of rape and incest. Which is not the Pro-Life plank at all. The Pro-Life plank since Roe v. Wade has been to first and above all set the conditions to protect the life of the unborn human being; second to cut off abortion providers. The focus of the Pro-Life movement over the past 25 years given the liberal slant of society has been focused on the abortion providers. That has been a long slog but has produced results at varying degrees state by state. Where Pro-Life groups such as the SBA List took note on Trump's original stance (punish the woman and provider) is that such an approach plays right in the hands of the liberal left message of 'war on women.' "It's all about punishing women." SBA List as with many other Pro-Life movements view the woman getting an abortion in post-modern society as yet another victim. Victim to the lies perpetrated by the left politicians, NARAL, PP et. al. I know you know the history of English Common Law. Even before Roe v. Wade and even going back to colonial America and even pre-colonial England, the fate of the woman who sought out an abortion was usually relegated to ecclesiastical authority. The one providing the means to the abortion is not so clear but if known I believe was dealt with in criminal court.
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