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Title: Go ahead, Donald, get 1,237; it won't matter: RNC delegate (Curly Haugland)
Source: CNBC
URL Source: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/22/go-a ... -wont-matter-rnc-delegate.html
Published: Apr 24, 2016
Author: Lori Ann LaRocco
Post Date: 2016-04-24 19:47:36 by Hondo68
Keywords: votes only estimates, not legal convention votes, delegate challenges
Views: 11127
Comments: 49

GOP Delegate: 1,237 number means nothing for Trump

Curly Haugland, RNC Rules Committee Member and unbound delegate, talks about delegate nominations at the Republican National Convention, including Donald Trump's chances of becoming the party's nominee.

Donald Trump may be the only Republican presidential candidate who can realistically hit the magic 1,237 number for the majority of delegates, but according to a senior Republican National Committee official that does not mean he will become the GOP presidential nominee.

Curly Haugland, a longstanding RNC official and an unbound delegate from North Dakota who will be on the convention rules committee in July, told CNBC that attaining 1,237 during the primaries does not secure the nomination.

"Even if Trump reaches the magic number of 1,237 the media and RNC are touting, that does not mean Trump is automatically the nominee," Haugland said. "The votes earned during the primary process are only estimates and are not legal convention votes. The only official votes to nominate a candidate are those that are cast from the convention floor." Supporters cheer for republican presidential candidates Donald Trump


Jabin Botsford | The Washington Post | Getty Images
Supporters cheer for republican presidential candidates Donald Trump

Haugland explained the primary number is really an estimate. That's because the eligibility of some delegates in how they are voted in could be questioned and their status may not be considered valid, Haugland said.

"Remember every state has a different delegate allocation process," he said. "Delegates are picked up in state contests that can be winner take all, open primaries, and remember there are seven states that allow the candidates to pick their own delegates. Until those delegate challenges are settled, there is no 1,237."

Haugland said he expects the delegates won in winner-take-all states to be most likely challenged.

Hitting 1,237 in the primaries does not mean the candidate would automatically become the GOP presidential nominee.

"You become the presumptive nominee when you get 1,237 bound delegates," RNC spokesman Lindsay Walters told CNBC. "You officially become nominee when you have 1,237 votes on the floor of the convention."

Trump has been contesting the delegate appropriation methods, accusing the Ted Cruz campaign of stealing delegates in Louisiana and Colorado. The Trump campaign has said it is considering challenging the seating of the Colorado delegation at the July convention. In March, a Trump senior adviser confirmed the campaign was moving on its plan to contest delegates in Louisiana after Trump won the state's primary but received fewer delegates than Cruz.

The Trump campaign did not immediately return a request for comment about Haugland's assertions.


Poster Comment:

Trump has the same number of delegates as the senator from Italy, Rick Santorum, or the Canadian senator Teduardo Cruz... zero. Only votes from the floor of the convention are real. It's wide open to whoever gets the votes at the convention.

Jeb!, Ruboto, Lindsey Graham, Lyin' Ryan, whoever. The vote count is Zero(0), so they're all presumed losers at the moment. (1 image)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Jeb!, Ruboto, Lindsey Graham, Lyin' Ryan, whoever

You missed Trump's most awesome hairdo. Some people don't see it in the publick latrine afforded by the government.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-24   19:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

If this is true, the Republican Parry is dead. Stick a fork in it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-24   20:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

What is this cunts address and phone number? What kind of car does she drive?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-24   20:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13, hondo68 (#2)

If this is true, the Republican Parry is dead. Stick a fork in it.

You are TRULLY S-T-U-P-I-D, aren't you?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-24   20:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#3)

What is this cunts address and phone number? What kind of car does she drive?

She is merely quoting Curly Haugland, RNC Rules Committee Member. Maybe you are calling Curly Haugland the cunt, though.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-04-24   20:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: no gnu taxes (#5)

Both and all. I'm a bad boy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-24   20:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Both and all. I'm a bad boy.

Are you voting for Trump, afterall?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-24   20:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#0)

Go ahead, Donald, get 1,237; it won't matter: RNC delegate (Curly Haugland)

Haugland and his buddies have been in office too long --long enough to become arrogant and defiant. He and his pals think they can wave their hand, cancel the outcome of an election, then stick us with another Bush or McCain that is more to their liking. They need the shit slapped out of them then be thrown out the door with limps.

rlk  posted on  2016-04-24   20:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#7)

Perhaps. I don't think it is right to cheat the winner.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-24   21:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeroo (#4)

You are TRULLY S-T-U-P-I-D, aren't you?

You think so.

Truly.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-24   21:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)

So, you will vote for a man that contradicts himself to spite your own values?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-24   21:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#11)

I contradict myself at times. I might.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-24   21:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#11)

So, you will vote for a man that contradicts himself to spite your own values?

What other choice do you recommend.

U don't know me  posted on  2016-04-24   21:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: U don't know me (#13)

John McAfee, Libertarian candidate.

Or Scruffy.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-04-24   21:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo (#11) (Edited)

You like the founders. Would you vote for George washington, Thomas Jefferson or John adams?

Do you support slavery?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-24   21:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#12)

I contradict myself at times. I might.

We all fail of and about our systemic concepts; I am in trouble about the world aound me as well. You are not alone and as long as you recoginise your own failings, you rise to the TOP of posters, worthy of objective discourse. Good post, Stone.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-24   21:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

John McAfee, Libertarian candidate.

Or Scruffy.

Watch out! Some will say you vote for a communist that wants you to piss in publick toilet.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-24   22:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#15)

Do you support slavery?

Yes. Isn't my opinion obvious? I pay taxes every year based on framing my desire to be free from government intrusion. I must be a slave, therfore since no one fights for me or anyone else.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-04-24   22:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: U don't know me, buckeroo, Vicomte13, A K A Stone, *Constitution Party* (#13)

What other choice do you recommend.

Pro Life, Pro American... Constitution Party.

Don't waste your vote on Republicans or Democrats.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-24   22:14:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: hondo68, U don't know me, A K A Stone (#19)

What other choice do you recommend.
Pro Life, Pro American... Constitution Party.

It is interesting to note that Virgil Goode, who ran for president himself in 2012 as the Constitution Party’s nominee for the high office, has endorsed Donald Trump for president.

It is even more interesting to learn that a poll of the Constitution Party members asking “which Republican party candidate would you vote for” showed that 44% of the 580,049 total CP members responding were for Trump.

Your suggestion of the Constitution Party is no viable alternative choice. Now shock everyone, post something intelligent.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   6:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin (#20) (Edited)

Trump will draw MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of voters that are fed up with both parties. The fact that both parties throw jabs at him is more food for Trumps fire. The Cruztards are being as childish as the Paultards were... stomping their feet when they find out their asshole is only popular amongst the poorly behaved tards.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-25   7:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: GrandIsland (#21)

Trump will draw MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of voters that are fed up with both parties ...

The solid strength of Trump’s bid for the presidential nomination has amazed those in his own party, the mainstream media, political scientists, donors and pollsters, and the raised the ire of the low information anti-trump miscreants. The miscreants are so cute when they discuss things they don’t understand.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   7:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Gatlin (#22)

The solid strength of Trump’s bid for the presidential nomination has amazed those in his own party

Trump screwed the pooch when he said: Caitlyn Jenner can use any bathroom in Trump Tower

Stick a fork in him.

He's done.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-04-25   9:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard (#23) (Edited)

Trump screwed the pooch when he said: Caitlyn Jenner can use any bathroom in Trump Tower
Stick a fork in him.
He's done.

Smart political ploy by Trump!

It is Trump’s uniquely vague platform which has little connection to conservative orthodoxy that gives him easy flexibility to retool as he moves towards winning the nomination and general election … more so than the two remaining conventional Republican candidates.

Trump is incredibly divisive and does have high negative ratings. BUT ... he will inflame turnout among not only the Republicans but also the demographic blocks the Democrats need to get to the polls to win in a general election.

While some continue to try to write him off, Trump continues to exceed all expectations and is running a magnificently executed playbook no one has ever witnessed before.

You are predicting a Goldwater-style blowout while others are predicting a Trump victory and you are “insane” if you think this will be a walkover.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   10:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#24)

Trump continues to exceed all expectations and is running a magnificently executed playbook no one has ever witnessed before.

Oh man, what a Trump groupie you are.

Maybe you can start your own "wet pantie" brigade here and post pictures of "A day in the life".

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-04-25   11:05:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Deckard (#25)

Maybe you can start your own "wet pantie" brigade here and post pictures of "A day in the life".

Don't give that retard any sort of ideas.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-04-25   11:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard (#25)

Trump continues to exceed all expectations and is running a magnificently executed playbook no one has ever witnessed before.

Oh man, what a Trump groupie you are.

Maybe you can start your own "wet pantie" brigade here and post pictures of "A day in the life".

“Pleasure and satisfaction over something regarded as highly creditable is no vice.” ~ Paraphrased.

Maybe you need more knowledge and less judgment.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   11:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Gatlin, tater, Vermin Exterminator, Ibluafartsky, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#20)

Your suggestion of the Constitution Party is no viable alternative choice.

You told us that Mitt & McCain had "electability" and your votes for them did help Obama to get elected twice.

Now you ask Americans to waste their vote on a NYC loser, so that Hillary will be elected.

Why do you hate America?


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-25   12:54:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: hondo68 (#28) (Edited)

I never "told" you any such thing.

As I said before: "Shock me, post something intelligent."

Fart in your general direction.

Is your ass jealous of the amount of shit that just came out of your mouth?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   12:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: hondo68 (#0)

. "You officially become nominee when you have 1,237 votes on the floor of the convention."

This ain't news. The most famous proof of this was the rigged "victory" of JFK. His father is even quoted as telling someone about the victory being a cliff-hanger,that "I agreed to buy him an election,not a landslide".

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-25   15:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Perhaps. I don't think it is right to cheat the winner.

There IS no winner until the delegate votes are tallied on the convention floor.

Dems de rulz.

It's how JFK was elected.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-25   15:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#15) (Edited)

Perhaps. I don't think it is right to cheat the winner.

Remind me again when the founding fathers ever actually voted FOR slavery.

Please feel free to check the Black History books first,because that's likely to be the only place you will find those "facts".

NOT voting to make something illegal is NOT the same thing as voting to make something legal.

And while we are at it,how about we toss in a bit of uncomfortable reality,and state the obvious,that times were primitive back then in the Pre-Industrial age,and everything in this new and developing country required massive amounts of labor. Fields don't clear themselves so they can be planted,and coal doesn't dig itself,nor cows milk themselves,chickens don't collect their own eggs,etc,etc,etc.

Listen to what passes for history these days,and you would swear the Founding Fathers invented slavery because they hated blacks.

BTW,while we are on that subject,PLEASE note that owning and selling African slaves was legal BEFORE this country was a country,even the original colonists that were under British Rule passed a law making it illegal to enslave Indians.

Being a British Colony at the time,they had no authority to override existing British law,so slavery stayed on the books. Partly from tradition/inertia,and party due to need.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-25   15:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin (#20)

It is interesting to note that Virgil Goode, who ran for president himself in 2012 as the Constitution Party’s nominee for the high office, has endorsed Donald Trump for president.

It seems obvious that Goode just wanted to be a president or presidential candidate,and self-promotion was all he cared about.

It is even more interesting to learn that a poll of the Constitution Party members asking “which Republican party candidate would you vote for” showed that 44% of the 580,049 total CP members responding were for Trump.

An old poll reflecting Trumps comments on banning Muslims and building border walls. Some people back then actually thought he meant what he was saying,not just selling woofs to the rubes.

Oddly enough,so people still think he means it.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-25   15:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Fred Mertz, Deckard, yukon, tater, I'm Back, Vermin Exterminator, Ibluafartsky (#26)

Hillary's Brain is back......................................... Gatlin


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-25   15:31:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: hondo68 (#0)

Donald Trump may be the only Republican presidential candidate who can realistically hit the magic 1,237 number for the majority of delegates, but according to a senior Republican National Committee official that does not mean he will become the GOP presidential nominee.

When the Los Cruzian cult wanted John Kasich to drop out, Ted Cruz argued that, as John Kasich had no path to 1,237 delegates, he should drop out.

When desperation started to set in, Ted Cruz claimed that if Donald Trump did not win a clear majority of the vote in New York, Trump should drop out, reasoning that if a candidate could not win a majority in his home state, he should drop out. In so doing, Cruz ignored the fact that he could not carry a majority of the vote in Texas, his home state. Nor could John Kasich in Ohio, his home state. But Donald Trump proceeded to carry over 60% in New York, winning 90 of the 95 delegates in the process. Ted Cruz finished third with 15%.

Of course, when Ted Cruz' chance for 1,237 delegates was mathematically eliminated, he bullshitted past his previous outcry, professing that it did not matter if he could not claim 1,237 delegates.

Cruz went on to claim there would be a contested convention as Donald Trump would not be able to gain a 1,237 majority.

It has become increasingly evident that Trump may claim and exceed a 1,237 majority.

Now the Los Cruzian cult claim that a Trump clear majority does not matter.

And Cruz and Kasich proclaim a desperate cooperative agreement in their attempt to stop Trump. Tomorrow, they will get royally thumped in five primaries, clearly demonstrating the futility of the Los Cruzians.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-04-25   16:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#33)

Oddly enough ...

Not so odd is the fact that the “Make America Great Again” campaign led by Trump is reaching new heights as results of the primaries continue to roll in week after week. Watch as Trump is probably going to run over Cruz and Kasich in the Northeast tomorrow.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   16:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: hondo68 (#34)

Hillary's Brain is back......................................... Gatlin

These thrilling moments you are witnessing in the context of social etiquette are my Répondez S'il Vous Plaît (RSVPs) to the invitation from Stone to resume posting.

So, just sit back and laissez le plaisir begin (let the pleasure begin).

Rather that post a political cartoon with a snide caption, you need to take a few minutes to read something intelligent… then pick a topic and write a piece in the same style.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   16:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin (#22)

Good to see you back.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2016-04-25   17:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin (#36)

Not so odd is the fact that the “Make America Great Again” campaign led by Trump is reaching new heights

It should come as no surprise to anyone that this country is full of fools who are not only allowed to vote,but encouraged to vote.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-25   17:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: nativist nationalist (#38)

Thanks ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   17:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#39)

That's true ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   17:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Gatlin, Ready for Hillary campaign (#37)

write a piece in the same style.

you need to take a few minutes to read something intelligent…

NO !

Place your order with the talking clown, McTrump and then pull forward to the window to pay.

I write in my own unique style.

If you quit posting again, they'll be less stupid tripe to sort through on the way to the intelligent stuff.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-04-25   17:52:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: hondo68 (#42)

I write in my own unique style.

Yes, you do ... and your posts are a collection of material where you create boring work.

Missing in your posts is any ability to display adeptness of understanding, the skill of emitting logical thought and good judgement … like, being able to make an intelligent factual reply to a given challenge.

Clearly I am no match for you level of ignorance ... so I say to you: A mind can be creative, original and alert. When you find your mind, try to live up to much higher expectations.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   18:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Gatlin (#36)

Thanks for responding to the invite. Welcome back.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-04-25   19:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#44)

Thanks for responding to the invite. Welcome back.

I am happy to be back ... GO TRUMP!!

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   19:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Gatlin (#45)

GO TRUMP!!

Bless your heart, Gatlin.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-04-25   19:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Gatlin, toolconservative (#45)

missed
yah

love
boris

ps

toolconservative
is
pouting

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-04-25   20:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: BorisY (#47)

Thanks, Boris ...

Too Who ?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-25   21:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone, y'all (#16)

A K A Stone (#12) --- I contradict myself at times. I might.

We all fail of and about our systemic concepts; I am in trouble about the world aound me as well. You are not alone and as long as you recoginise your own failings, you rise to the TOP of posters, worthy of objective discourse. Good post, Stone. --- buckeroo

Speak for yourselves, gentlemen.

I'm, of course, infallible.

tpaine  posted on  2016-04-27   12:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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