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Title: Deaths from Marijuana v. 17 FDA-Approved Drugs
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URL Source: http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/ ... resource.php?resourceID=000145
Published: Apr 22, 2016
Author: ProCon.org
Post Date: 2016-04-22 10:29:43 by U don't know me
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Comments: 16
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http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000145
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So you think we ban marijuana because it kills people?
#2. To: misterwhite, U don't know me (#1)
So you think we ban marijuana because it kills people?
The entire war on drugs, from its very onset, has been based on lies.
“You want to know what this was really all about?” Nixon aid John Ehrlichman told journalist Dan Baum in 1994, according to an article published in Harper’s Magazine in 2016. “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying?
We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#3. To: Deckard (#2)
Nixon aid John Ehrlichman told journalist Dan Baum in 1994
Dan Baum just now claims that John Ehrlichman said that Richard Nixon said.
"Ehrlichman died in 1999, but his five children in questioned the veracity of the account."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war- blacks-hippie/
#4. To: Roscoe (#3) (Edited)
Oh - his children questioned the veracity of his account ?
Interesting, were they there at the time of the interview? Since your link doesn't work (surprise surprise!) excuse me if I doubt the "veracity" of your claim.
Anyways, I'll stand by my original statement :
Marijuana Prohibition Is a Moral Scandal Built on a Mountain of Lies
A few days before the House of Representatives passed a federal ban on marijuana in June 1937, the Republican minority leader, Bertrand Snell of New York, confessed, "I do not know anything about the bill." The Democratic majority leader, Sam Rayburn of Texas, educated him. "It has something to do with something that is called marihuana," Rayburn said. "I believe it is a narcotic of some kind.
That exchange gives you a sense of how much thought Congress gave marijuana prohibition before approving it. Legislators who had heard of the plant knew it as the "killer weed" described by Federal Bureau of Narcotics Commissioner Harry Anslinger, who claimed marijuana turned people into homicidal maniacs and called it "the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."
Anslinger warned that "marihuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes" and estimated that half the violent crimes in areas occupied by "Mexicans, Greeks, Turks, Filipinos, Spaniards, Latin Americans, and Negroes may be traced to the use of marihuana."
Given this background, no one should pretend that marijuana prohibition was carefully considered or that it was driven by science, as opposed to ignorance and blind prejudice. It is hard to rationally explain why Congress, less than four years after Americans had emphatically rejected alcohol prohibition, thought it was a good idea to ban a recreational intoxicant that is considerably less dangerous.
Anslinger planned for two years and finally brought The Marijauna Tax Act of 1937 (making marijuana illegal on the Federal level) to Congress He brought with him a book full of Hearst’s ridiculous stories, quotes from the “Gore Files” and a whole bunch of racist comments. The only person that stood in his way was Dr. William C. Woodward, Legislative Council of the American Medical Association (AMA).
The brave Dr. Woodward criticized Anslinger for construing AMA statements to make them appear in support of his anti-marijuana legislation. He also reprimanded the legislature and the FBN for using the term “marijuana” in the legislation, which at the time was not publicly known to represent hemp/cannabis. Marijuana was a racist term used to describe the smoking of cannabis by Mexicans. Thus many people who had a vested interest in marijuana such as hemp farmers, vendors and cannabis smokers did not know that this new law would outlaw their beloved hemp. A very snide trick indeed…
Woodward went on to accuse Anslinger of using hearsay evidence and listed the many holes in his “scientific” reasoning for making marijuana illegal. The legislature and Anslinger both retorted by stating that Woodward only had criticisms and no hard evidence as to why marijuana should remain legal.
The Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 was then OK’d by the committee and passed on to the house floor. There, the discussion was exactly this:
“Mr. Speaker, what is this bill about?”
Speaker: “I don’t know. It has something to do with a thing called marihuana. I think it’s a narcotic of some kind.”
“Mr. Speaker, does the American Medical Association support this bill?”
Member on the committee flat out lies: “Their Doctor ‘Wentworth'[sic] came down here. They support this bill 100 percent.”
And that was it. Because of one final lie, marijuana was made illegal in the United States.
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And the thing is - the drug warriors are STILL LYING TODAY!
You and paulsen being prime examples.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#5. To: Deckard (#4) (Edited)
Interesting, were they there at the time of the interview?
The previously unpublished alleged interview purportedly reconstructed from long lost 22 year old notes?
You're an idiot who can't manage a simple cut and paste.Since your link doesn't work
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman- richard- nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/
#6. To: Roscoe (#5)
Interesting, were they there at the time of the interview?The previously unpublished alleged interview purportedly reconstructed from 22 year notes?
I'll take that as a "no, they were not there".
You're an idiot who can't manage a simple cut and paste.
Typical liberal, blame someone else for your fuck-ups.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#7. To: Deckard (#6) (Edited)
I'll take that as a "no, they were not there".
Hard to be "there" at a faked interview.
You can't follow a link. Your mental deficiency.
#8. To: misterwhite (#1)
So you think we ban marijuana because it kills people?
If you do that you would have to ban doctors also. But right now they bury their mistakes.
#9. To: Roscoe (#3)
"Ehrlichman died in 1999, but his five children in questioned the veracity of the account."
His children misunderstood the quote as ascribing racist views to Ehrlichman:
'"We never saw or heard anything from our dad, John Ehrlichman, that was derogatory about any person of color," wrote Peter Ehrlichman, Tom Ehrlichman, Jan Ehrlichman, Michael Ehrlichman and Jody E. Pineda in a statement provided to CNN.
'"The 1994 alleged 'quote' we saw repeated in social media for the first time today does not square with what we know of our father. And collectively, that spans over 185 years of time with him," the Ehrlichman family wrote. "We do not subscribe to the alleged racist point of view that this writer now implies 22 years following the so-called interview of John'
The quote:
'"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.
'"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."'
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
#10. To: ConservingFreedom (#9)
The quote:
The false quote.
#11. To: Deckard (#4)
And that was it. Because of one final lie, marijuana was made illegal in the United States."
It wasn't made illegal. You had to buy a Tax Stamp. And that was way back in 1937.
It wasn't made illegal until 1970 under the Controlled Substances Act - - and for totally different reasons.
But you knew that. You just like to dredge up this 1937 bullshit, hoping people will assume that's the reason.
You're dishonest, deceiving and a liar.
#12. To: U don't know me (#8)
"If you do that you would have to ban doctors also. But right now they bury their mistakes."
Hmmmm. That seems like a whole new topic.
I was simply wondering if you thought marijuana was banned because it killed people.
#13. To: misterwhite (#11)
It wasn't made illegal. You had to buy a Tax Stamp.
You could remind him a thousand times, and he would still cling to his lie.
#14. To: misterwhite (#11)
It wasn't made illegal. You had to buy a Tax Stamp.
Right - no one was busted for pot between 1937 and 1970.
Give me a break!
You're dishonest, deceiving and a liar.
You drug warrior cultists have lied from the beginning.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#15. To: Roscoe (#10)
The false quote.
The poorly attested quote that is called into question by Ehrlichman's children based on a misunderstanding of what it would imply were it true.
A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
#16. To: ConservingFreedom (#15) (Edited)
The poorly attested quote
The language attributed to Ehrlichman, set in quotation marks, seem incredibly detailed to be recovered from some 22 year old "notes."
How lengthy are the supposed noted? Are they on cards? Handwritten? Typed? Longhand? Were the interviews recorded? If not, were the quotes, as currently presented, written contemporaneously with the notes?
They scream fake.
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