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Title: The Time Ted Cruz Defended a Ban on Dildos
Source: Mother Jones
URL Source: http://www.motherjones.com/politics ... uz-dildo-ban-sex-devices-texas
Published: Apr 13, 2016
Author: David Corn
Post Date: 2016-04-13 09:17:02 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 13132
Comments: 53

His legal team argued there was no right "to stimulate one's genitals."

In one chapter of his campaign book, A Time for Truth, Sen. Ted Cruz proudly chronicles his days as a Texas solicitor general, a post he held from 2003 to 2008. Bolstering his conservative cred, the Republican presidential candidate notes that during his stint as the state's chief lawyer before the Supreme Court and federal and state appellate courts, he defended the inclusion of "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, the display of the Ten Commandments on the grounds of the state capitol, a congressional redistricting plan that assisted Republicans, a restrictive voter identification law, and a ban on late-term abortions. He also described cases in which he championed gun rights and defended the conviction of a Mexican citizen who raped and murdered two teenage girls in a case challenged by the World Court. Yet one case he does not mention is the time he helped defend a law criminalizing the sale of dildos.

The case was actually an important battle concerning privacy and free speech rights. In 2004, companies that owned Austin stores selling sex toys and a retail distributor of such products challenged a Texas law outlawing the sale and promotion of supposedly obscene devices. Under the law, a person who violated the statute could go to jail for up to two years. At the time, only three states—Mississippi, Alabama, and Virginia—had similar laws. (The previous year, a Texas mother who was a sales rep for Passion Parties was arrested by two undercover cops for selling vibrators and other sex-related goods at a gathering akin to a Tupperware party for sex toys. No doubt, this had worried businesses peddling such wares.) The plaintiffs in the sex-device case contended the state law violated the right to privacy under the 14th Amendment. They argued that many people in Texas used sexual devices as an aspect of their sexual experiences. They claimed that in some instances one partner in a couple might be physically unable to engage in intercourse or have a contagious disease (such as HIV) and that in these cases such devices could allow a couple to engage in safe sex.

But a federal judge sent them packing, ruling that selling sex toys was not protected by the Constitution. The plaintiffs appealed, and Cruz's solicitor general office had the task of preserving the law.

In 2007, Cruz's legal team, working on behalf of then-Attorney General Greg Abbott (who now is the governor), filed a 76-page brief calling on the US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit to uphold the lower court's decision and permit the law to stand. The filing noted, "The Texas Penal Code prohibits the advertisement and sale of dildos, artificial vaginas, and other obscene devices" but does not "forbid the private use of such devices." The plaintiffs had argued that this case was similar to Lawrence v. Texas, the landmark 2003 Supreme Court decision that struck down Texas' law against sodomy. But Cruz's office countered that Lawrence "focused on interpersonal relationships and the privacy of the home" and that the law being challenged did not block the "private use of obscene devices." Cruz's legal team asserted that "obscene devices do not implicate any liberty interest." And its brief added that "any alleged right associated with obscene devices" is not "deeply rooted in the Nation's history and traditions." In other words, Texans were free to use sex toys at home, but they did not have the right to buy them.

The brief insisted that Texas in order to protect "public morals" had  "police-power interests" in "discouraging prurient interests in sexual gratification, combating the commercial sale of sex, and protecting minors." There was a  "government" interest, it maintained, in "discouraging...autonomous sex." The brief compared the use of sex toys with "hiring a willing prostitute or engaging in consensual bigamy," and it equated advertising these products with the commercial promotion of prostitution. In perhaps the most noticeable line of the brief, Cruz's office declared, "There is no substantive-due-process right to stimulate one's genitals for non-medical purposes unrelated to procreation or outside of an interpersonal relationship." That is, the pursuit of such happiness had no constitutional standing. And the brief argued there was no "right to promote dildos, vibrators, and other obscene devices." The plaintiffs, it noted, were "free to engage in unfettered noncommercial speech touting the uses of obscene devices" but not speech designed to generate the sale of these items.

In a 2-1 decision issued in February 2008, the court of appeals told Cruz's office to take a hike. The court, citing Lawrence, pointed to the "right to be free from governmental intrusion regarding 'the most private human contact, sexual behavior.'" The panel added, "An individual who wants to legally use a safe sexual device during private intimate moments alone or with another is unable to legally purchase a device in Texas, which heavily burdens a constitutional right." It rejected the argument from Cruz's team that the government had a legitimate role to play in "discouraging prurient interests in autonomous sex and the pursuit of sexual gratification unrelated to procreation." No, government officials could not claim as part of their job duties the obligation to reduce masturbation or non-procreative sexual activity. And the two judges in the majority slapped aside the solicitor general's attempt to link dildos to prostitution: "The sale of a device that an individual may choose to use during intimate conduct with a partner in the home is not the 'sale of sex' (prostitution)."

Summing up, the judges declared, "The case is not about public sex. It is not about controlling commerce in sex. It is about controlling what people do in the privacy of their own homes because the State is morally opposed to a certain type of consensual private intimate conduct. This is an insufficient justification for the statute after Lawrence...Whatever one might think or believe about the use of these devices, government interference with their personal and private use violates the Constitution."

The appeals court had rejected the arguments from Cruz's office and said no to Big Government policing the morals of citizens. But Abbott and Cruz wouldn't give up. Of course, they might have initially felt obligated to mount a defense of this state law. But after it had been shot down, they pressed ahead, relying on the same puritanical and excessive arguments to justify government intrusion. Abbott and Cruz quickly filed a brief asking the full court of appeals to hear the case, claiming the three-judge panel had extended the scope of Lawrence too far. This brief suggested that if the decision stood, some people would argue that "engaging in consensual adult incest or bigamy" ought to be legal because it could "enhance their sexual experiences." And Cruz's office filed another brief noting it was considering taking this case to the Supreme Court.

Cruz and Abbott lost the motion for a hearing from the full court of appeals. And the state soon dropped the case, opting not to appeal to the Supreme Court. This meant that the government could no longer outlaw the sale of dildos, vibrators, and other sex-related devices in the Lone Star State—and in Mississippi and Louisiana, the two other states within this appeals court's jurisdiction.

The day after the appeals court wiped out the Texas law, Cruz forwarded an email to the lawyer in his office who had overseen the briefs in the case. It included a blog post from legal expert Eugene Volokh headlined, "Dildoes Going to the Supreme Court?" and a sympathetic note from William Thro, then the solicitor general of Virginia. "Having had the experience of answering questions about oral sex from a female State Supreme Court Justice who is also a grandmother," Thro wrote Cruz, "you have my sympathy. :-) Seriously, if you do go for cert [with the Supreme Court] and if we can help, let me know." But for whatever reason—Cruz certainly doesn't explain in his book—Abbott and he did not take the dildo ban to the Supreme Court. And Cruz, who was already thinking about running for elected office, missed out on the chance to gain national attention as an advocate for the just-say-no-to-vibrators cause. Imagine how his political career might have been affected had Cruz become the public face for the anti-dildos movement.

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

But a federal judge sent them packing, ruling that selling sex toys was not protected by the Constitution. The plaintiffs appealed, and Cruz's solicitor general office had the task of preserving the law.

IOW, he did his job to defend in court the legally enacted statutes of his state, regardless of how he felt about the issue.

Perhaps the writer doesn't understand what the job of solicitor-general actually is.

This is not even remotely comparable to the legal trickery of how Hillary got a child molester freed and bragged and laughed about it afterward.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-13   9:20:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tooconservative (#1)

IOW, he did his job to defend in court the legally enacted statutes of his state, regardless of how he felt about the issue.

Ah yes, a Republican "conservative" channeling his inner German once again.

You people have this funny thing about "rules" and "duties". If the rule is oppressive or evil, or the duty is creepy and intrusive or just plain wrong, you'll defend it.

But then these same officials, like Cruz, have tremendously broad discretionary powers, in your eyes, to not enforce, to favor administrative or governmental or liberty interests.

Cruz was in NO sense OBLIGATED to take up this case and fight as hard as he did for it. Attorneys general and public prosectors ALWAYS have tremendous discretion in what they decide to fight, and how they decide to fight it.

Cruz is an oppressive fascist who always fought the wrong causes to the death. And of course he will always manipulate every little rule to his advantage. He is an immoral and evil man who will never, ever be allowed to be President of the United States, because we do not need to have a martinet shitstain ruling America.

He has repeatedly demonstrated that, when he uses discretion, he uses it badly.

And of course when Hillary Clinton did HER job, and exercised HER power, well, THAT'S bad. But when some creepy oppressive Republican type wants to police private masturbation, well, THAT'S his right and duty.

Do you understand why your cause is doomed in America? Do you understand what a puddle of diarrhea that jackasses like you have made of "conservatism".

Conservatism could be pragmatic, based on the normal life experience of most that "if it ain't broke, you don't fix it", but instead jackasses like Cruz decide that "conservatism" is some sort of power to enforce Salem Witch Trials over private behavior, while tearing away any and all traditional limitations on corporate power (such as USURY LAWS, for instance, which are five thousand years old, but which "conservatives" threw out nationally as a "commerce clause" issue.

Neat trick - but that's what conservatives do.

And that's why your cause is falling apart. We're done with you.

Trump is not one of you. He's pragmatic. Democrats are nattering nanny-staters also, which is why Trump is vastly preferrable, but Democrats, at least, have an excessive concept of personal liberty, which is prone to LEAVE US ALONE in our private lives.

Creepy martinets like Cruz and you, tooconservative, believe in RULES, but invariably abuse power to oppress people with rules. You have no common sense when you exercise discretion.

You and Cruz torpedoed conservatism by being unredeemable assholes. We, the People, are finally well and truly SICK OF IT. Trusted with the government, the courts, the military, you failed spectacularly.

Now a pragmatic conservative who got wealthy using the rules offers you a way to preserve the core values of conservatism, along with personal liberty, but you "conservatives" have shit for brains and hate him, and are determined to take him out.

In favor of Cruz.

You're doomed, because your ideas are stupid and your leaders - like Cruz - are evil and have no judgment.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-13   10:20:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

Cruz was in NO sense OBLIGATED to take up this case and fight as hard as he did for it.

It's about states' rights not dildos.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-13   12:05:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: ConservingFreedom (#13)

It's about states' rights not dildos.

Ah yes, "State's Rights".

States Rights would have credibility as an argument if it weren't for the fact that the only time anybody fights for them is when the state "right" in question is the "right" to keep slaves, or the "right" to segregate, or the "right" to oppress people for private sexual behavior.

It seems that in practice the "right" of the states that folks on the Right seem to always get all jumped up about are the supposed "right" of locals to be oppressive jackasses.

The argument never wins, because it's been used to support so much evil. Cruz is an martiet dickhead, so OF COURSE he made a states rights argument to defend some ridiculous and oppressive state law. Of course the argument was smashed down once again, because the Cause, once again, was stupid and getting in people's private lives, as always. Same old tireless jerks making the same old tired arguments, and going down to the same old defeat. "Old times there are not forgotten", and people like Cruz never learn a damned thing.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-13   15:22:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Vicomte13, ConservingFreedom (#29)

not to quibble ... but states don't have rights .. people have rights . states have power. You can look it up .The founders were deliberate in their use of the 2 words . The Federal Government's powers are few and defined . The rest of the powers belong to the states (10th Amendment ) .The rest of the rights not enumerated in the Bill of Rights belong to the people (9th amendment ) .

tomder55  posted on  2016-04-13   16:07:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tomder55 (#30)

not to quibble ... but states don't have rights .. people have rights . states have power. You can look it up .The founders were deliberate in their use of the 2 words . The Federal Government's powers are few and defined . The rest of the powers belong to the states (10th Amendment ) .The rest of the rights not enumerated in the Bill of Rights belong to the people (9th amendment ) .

Not to quibble, but the Federal governments powers are whatever the Rule of Five - 5 justices of the Supreme Court - say they are. How much power is delegated to the Federal government by the Commerce Clause and the "Necessary and Proper" clause is always the issue.

Since 1969, Republicans have controlled the Supreme Court, and they read those powers as limited. But Justice Scalia is dead and the court is deadlocked. The next President will name at least one, and probably four Supremes. If those justices are named by a Democrat, then the Commerce Clause will mean that the federal government has plenary power to regulate all economic activity - including whether a farmer can legally grow corn on his land for his own personal use. "Necessary and proper" means. to a Democrat Court, whatever isn't covered by the Commerce Clause.

So, a Republican Court looks at a list of enumerated powers and says "not much there, certainly not xxx", but a Democrat Court looks at two powers: to regulate interstate commerce, and to enact whatever is necessary and proper to see to the upholding of the intent of the Constitution, and find in those two powers the power to build New Sweden.

During the long Republican ascendancy over the Court, Republicans could sit pat that their basic concept of at least somewhat limited government was upheld as THE Constitution, while Democrats could grouse that the Constitution was being blinkered and hobbled to serve conservative fetishes.

But under the Democratic regime that will follow Obama if the Republicans steal the election from Trump, Republicans will scream bloody murder that the Constitution is being trashed left and right.

Elections matter. They determine thing. This time, for the first time in a half-century, the election may mean a shift in control of the Supreme Court, and that will very rapidly result in a run of changes.

Your view of what the Constitution "is" will continue to hold sway if Trump is elected. Otherwise, the Democrat view will.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-13   18:30:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Vicomte13 (#32)

Your view of what the Constitution "is" will continue to hold sway if Trump is elected. Otherwise, the Democrat view will.

that is presumptuous. I see nothing that indicates that Trump holds an electoral advantage over Evita. This appears to be the last resort of the Trump supporters . If Trump isn't nominated then we get the Democrat President .There is zero basis for this claim so it is just another strawman in the debate.

tomder55  posted on  2016-04-13   18:48:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#35. To: tomder55 (#34)

that is presumptuous. I see nothing that indicates that Trump holds an electoral advantage over Evita. This appears to be the last resort of the Trump supporters . If Trump isn't nominated then we get the Democrat President .There is zero basis for this claim so it is just another strawman in the debate.

How many states with primaries - you know, where the people go and actually VOTE, like they will in the General Election - has Cruz won? His home state. Wisconsin. Any others?

Cruz has won a bunch of caucuses, and stolen delegates crookedly, and he's still way behind Trump.

So, what do you get if Republican corruption denies Trump the nomination. You get Ted Cruz, a despicable, nasty little man whom the American people will never elect President. He can't win Republican PRIMARIES - and the General Election is just like that, a place where the VOTERS cast VOTES and decide, not a smoky backroom where Republican party asshats make deals with each other.

You're hellbent on putting Cruz up there. You may succeed. And then you're going to lose the country in a crushing defeat. You're going to lose the Congress. You're going to lose the Supreme Court. And lots of Trump voters like me, who will have been screwed out of our victory by corrupt Republicans are going to join the tidal waves and make damned sure that the Democrats burn you to the ground.

Then what?

Well, if you're the sort of WORKING CLASS person SCREWED BY FREE TRADE, you're going to get Democrats who will, at least, increase the minimum wage, and fund health insurance, and reduce the student loan burden, and protect Social Security. They won't give you what Donald would on free trade, but at least they'll make your unemployment more endurable by giving more generous benefits.

They'll pay for it by increasing taxes on the rich Republican donors who screwed Trump out of the nomination.

And they'll come and get your guns.

Presumptuous? I guarantee that if you push Cruz to the top of the Republican ticket, the Republican Party will never hold the Supreme Court, or the White House, or either house of Congress again for the rest of your life. AND you will significantly lose your guns rights. AND if you are rich, your taxes will go WAY up. You can take that to the bank.

You're willfully blind if you "see nothing that indicates Trump..." whatever.

So play your games - I want Donald, but in the end it may be that the Republican Party is too diseased and corrupt for him to be able to hold onto the nomination that actual VOTERS will have given him. The rotten husk of the GOP will be naked for all to see. And then we - the Trump voters you screwed and the Democrats who already hate you - are going to close in and kill what is left of your party.

We'll end up with an American style form of socialism, and most of us will be ok. But you Republicans will lose everything.

You are hellbent on testing that proposition. Great! Because at the end of it, no matter what the outcome, I will be fine. But at the end of it you will be crushed down, never to rise again, for the rest of your life. Utterly defeated. Everything you believe in will be systematically destroyed, the institutions that you have used to exert control, burnt to the ground by prosecution and regulation.

And I'll be enjoying watching it.

You have decided to stand against the people. That's what you Republicans are doing. We're going to enslave you.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-13 19:15:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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