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Title: Will GOP Establishment Swindle Trump in Cleveland, Too?
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Published: Apr 12, 2016
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2016-04-12 17:29:11 by nativist nationalist
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In the race for the Republican nomination, Donald Trump would seem to be in the catbird seat. He has won the most states, the most delegates and the most votes--by nearly two million. He has brought out the largest crowds and is poised for huge wins in the largest states of the East, New York and Pennsylvania. Yet, there is a growing probability that the backroom boys will steal the nomination from him at a brokered convention in Cleveland. Over the weekend, Colorado awarded all 34 delegates to Ted Cruz. The fix had been in since August, when party officials, alarmed at Trump’s popularity, decided it would be best if Colorado Republicans were not allowed to vote on the party’s nominee. After all, these poor folks might get it wrong. In South Carolina, where Trump swept the primary, a plot is afoot for a mass desertion of Trump delegates after the first ballot. The Republican Party in Georgia, another state Trump won, is also talking up delegate defections. In state after state, when Trump wins, and moves on, the apparatchiks arrive — to thieve delegates for Cruz. “This is a crooked system, folks,” says Trump, “the system is rigged. … I go to Louisiana. I win Louisiana. … Then I find out I get less delegates than Cruz because of some nonsense. … I say this to the RNC. I say it to the Republican Party: You’re going to have a big problem, folks, because the people don’t like what’s going on.” Something rotten is also going on in the Democratic race. Bernie Sanders is on a roll, having won seven straight primaries and caucuses. Yet, he keeps falling further behind. “I watch Bernie, he wins. He wins. He keeps winning, winning,” said Trump in Rochester. “And then I see, he’s got no chance. They always say he’s got no chance. Why doesn’t he have a chance? “Because the system is corrupt.” Sanders seems to be shorted every time he wins a primary or caucus. And the insurmountable hurdle he faces was erected against folks like Sanders some time ago — the 700-plus superdelegates. These are Democratic congressmen, senators, governors and Party officials. By more than 10-1, close to 500 of these superdelegates have lined up to back Hillary Clinton and stop Sanders. The Democratic Party believes in democracy, up to a point — that point being that Democratic voters will not be permitted to nominate a candidate to whom the party elites object. Richard Nixon‘s 49-state triumph in 1972 cured the Democrats of their naive belief in democracy. Henceforth, the George McGoverns and Bernie Sanderses can run. But they will not be allowed to win. Yet, since it is Trump and Sanders who have stirred the greatest passion and brought out the biggest crowds, if both are seen as having been cheated by insiders, then the American political system may suffer a setback similar to that caused by the “corrupt bargain” of 1824. Andrew Jackson ran first in the popular vote and the Electoral College, but was short of victory. John Quincy Adams, who ran second, got Speaker Henry Clay to deliver the House of Representatives, and thus make Adams president. Clay became Adam’s secretary of state. In 1828, Jackson got his revenge, winning the presidency. Clay would never make it. On his deathbed, Jackson confided that among the great regrets of his life was that he did not shoot Henry Clay. While the turnout in the Democratic primaries and caucuses has not matched the Obama-Clinton race of 2008, Sanders has rallied the young and working class, turned out the biggest crowds and generated the greatest enthusiasm. But on the Republican side, the Party has had the largest turnout in American history. And the reason is Trump. And if, after having won the most votes and delegates, Trump is seen as having been swindled out of a nomination he won, by intraparty scheming in Cleveland, the GOP could suffer a self-inflicted wound from which it might not recover. Another matter that could prevent a return to national unity? The deepening split over trade and foreign policy, both between the parties, and within the parties. Sanders, last week, was saying that what disqualifies Clinton as president is her support for free trade deals that gutted American industry and cost millions of jobs, and her support for an Iraq War that was among the costliest, bloodiest blunders in U.S. history. On both issues, Trump agrees with Sanders. Cruz, an uber-hawk and free trader, is more aligned with Clinton. If the “America First” stance on foreign and trade policy, close to a majority position today, is unrepresented by either party this fall, and we get a free trade, War Party president, the divisions within the country will widen and deepen. If Sanders and his revolution are sent packing in Philadelphia, and Trump is robbed in Cleveland of a nomination Americans believe he won political disillusionment, and political realignment, may be at hand.
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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)
If they can. But Trump has a very loud megaphone and is beating the establishment to death on the issue of its corruption of the process. It is blatant and Trump is making sure it is the center of attention.
It is blatant, and Trump is making it clear that if the GOP succeeds in stealing the election, that the party will be burnt to the ground in the aftermath. If Trump is robbed of the nomination by this chicken shit, Hillary will have a mandate, and she will destroy the wealthy Republicans through taxation and regulation targeted right at them, and her Supreme Court will back her all the way. Count on it. For my part, I'd like to see Trump, but seeing the Democrats destroy the GOP donor class through redistributive taxation is also pleasant to contemplate. Oh, and the shitstain Cruz supporters backing his bid to steal the nomination? They lose their gun rights - because you can be sure that Clinton and her Supreme Court will guy the Second Amendment for good. Trump will preserve gun rights and preserve capitalism. But if the election is stolen from him, the Democrat hellstorm that will take over everything, including the Supreme Court, will raze everything that the Cruzies and the super rich treasure to the ground. And that will also be enjoyable. So, no matter whether Trump wins or Hillary, I win this time either way. There is not path to victory at all for the GOP Establishment or the Cruzites. The only difference is that Trump will let them economically survive. Hillary will seize their wealth through confiscatory, targeted taxation, and their guns. And she'll blow away any damnfool who tries to fight it. The GOP wants a fight. Ok. A l'outrance. They're going to the guillotine this time, and only Trump can save them, actually. But they've got shit for brains and are too arrogant, and don't comprehend what losing control of the Supreme Court really MEANS for crony capitalism. They will either wise up and save themselves by ceasing and desisting with Trump, or they will lose it all to Hillary. Their dilemma? I'm as happy as a clam because I like both of the outcomes. Hillary. Ok. Bernie. Better. Trump, best of all.
Your right. It will get ugly ! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
He certainly hopes to be able to spin it that way because there is no way his enormous ego will allow him to admit he lost,and he's going to need an excuse to drop out without admitting he is a quitter. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Trump will never drop out. He'll go to the convention. He'll try to litigate if he is robbed. He will fight and keep on fighting. He'll run as an independent and burn the party to the ground if they steal the nomination from him. And I'll help him do it.
You and Trump are both Dims to start out with,so no surprise there. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
SC may go into court and contest Trump's delegates there because Trump is breaking his written pledge to support the party's nominee. In state after state, Trump just fires his staff and doesn't keep them in place to help select delegates. Trump is so cheap that he has chosen to do this. And Cruz simply snaps up those delegates. Trump does not have a national campaign in any meaningful sense. He will be a disaster in an election. He has no campaign machine, will be able to do nothing to help the party's candidates for Congress or for state offices.
No, I was never, ever a Democrat. That this time I am ready to vote Democrat when the Republicans steal the nomination from Trump is an indication of how badly betrayed I have been by the Republican Party. The Republicans have proven to be faithless shitstains. I trusted them, and they betrayed me, over and over again.
Ya got the kick, 'eh? What happened? Man, I tried to trottle this issue with stone. I must be a failure for offline dialogue that I shall never share since my opinions were not effective to impact Stone's failures to realize the truth about the purpose of his chit-chat channel can not be shared.
Not yet. I assume I'm just waiting for the hangman. I see my handle has been changed again.
Have no fear. Trump will win the primary... and eat Commie Sanders for breakfast and shit a KILLary for lunch in November. The libtards of this site are gonna hate Trump more than they ever hated GW. LMFAO. Get ready to say it.... President Trump. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I fear discussing anything about a fascist government that you support. you might turn me in as a PATRIOT masked as a TERRORIST.
You've terrorized every chit chat channel I've seen you post on. If Stone kicked your worthless ass out of this forum, you'd repeatedly shit on Stone and make new ID's to come back and terrorize some more. Don't act innocent, F' stain I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
He can post 1 time per day. More when he recognizes the error of his ways. A K A Stone posted on 2016-04-12 Fred has been granted the privilege of making one post per day. The one below was it, until tomorrow. Fred has vowed to kiss ass to get his limit raised. I see that it's now been censored, so maybe it's not going so well after all. I actually like Buck, and you. You two should be buddies.
I hate to step on your toes ... but my index rating is just above Stones. There is a reason. On the other hand, you are too new @LP to even know your ranking, somewhere in outerspace?
Show objective evidence and supporting facts beyond your kanary klub fans complaints.
Fred doesn't kiss ass. I have known him of the Internet since 1998; that is about 18 years of history from one chat site or another. It ain't going to happen. But, there is some give&take in this arrangement w/stone. If stone has permitted the priviledge of one post per day, all Fred has to do is suggest, "let bygones be bygones." It has to work.
HOT SEAT [TooConservative] "let bygones be bygones."
Fred is a great statesman like Ron Paul. Many of those nags that he bets on wouldn't even make it to the finish line, without Fred's encouragement. Yes,you were and are. Abortion was the one issue that kept you from voting a straight Dim ticket,and now that the alleged Republicans are pro-abortion also,you will be "going home". BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
SC may get sanctioned for frivolous filing. Trump is so cheap that he has chosen to do this. And Cruz simply snaps up those delegates. And, amazingly, Trump is far in the lead, Cruz trails and is falling toward third place, and he is losing any reasonable argument that he should be the first alternate rather than Kasich. Damn, and Trump is still beating the shit out of Ted Cruz who is hiding in some dark corner, quivering like a scared poodle sitting in a puddle of warm piss. Just imagine if Trump got organized or had a real campaign like Cruz.
IDM who the REPs nominate. Trump has already assured victory for Hillary in November, possibly with a DRat majority in the Senate and certainly a clear path to stack SCOTUS with leftist DRats. The REP Party is finished as a viable, competitive national party. Trump is not solely responsible for that but he was the straw the broke the camel's back. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
LOL You're laying it on pretty thick.
Don't make me laugh.
This ain't a court of law. It's a privilege to post here. Not a constitutional right. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I'm very much looking forward to that. But I AM worried, because I see a path by which these conniving shitstain Republicans can thwart the people's will and deny Trump the nomination. And then there will be hell to pay. I'd rather see Trump defeat these bastards and then reform the country and make it great again, as I believe he will. But Republicans are remarkably tenacious in their evildoing.
No, I'm not, and I never was. What I am is a Catholic: I believe in broad social welfare and a degree of wealth redistribution to provide a decent living for everybody, all the way to the bottom. This isn't a Democrat belief. I think that that, more than anything else, reduces violence, reduces drug use, and keeps things reasonable. I have always thought that Reaganomics was a sick and stupid joke, and time has proven me right. I believe in flat wealth taxation, not progressive income taxation. This isn't a Democrat position. I believe that life begins at conception and that all abortion is murder, and should be treated as such. Democrats don't believe that, and neither do Republicans. I believed in the necessity of the worldwide struggle against Communism. Democrats after LBJ did not. But I do not believe in imperialism. Once we won the Cold War, which we did in 1991, I believe we should have stood down the forces, come home, and used the massive budget surplus to pay off the national debt. Democrats don't believe anything like that. I oppose free trade with unfree nations. I oppose the hiring of illegal aliens, and I oppose their voting: Democrats support both. I oppose the death penalty, because I think our justice system is corrupt and broken and unreliable, not because I think that death for murderers is unjust. Democrats don't think like this. I think that drugs should be legalized, not because I'm a drug user, but because all experience abroad has shown that nations that legalize and treat drug addiction as a medical issue have much lower addiction rates and crime rates. I am for common sense, in a universe that in fact has a God who has given us his opinion of things. That is not a Democrat view. I've never been a Democrat. If the Republicans steal the nomination from Trump, I will vote Democrat, for the first time, because then it's war and the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I'll be doing what FDR did: ally with Stalin (the Democrats) to defeat Hitler (the Republicans). Nothing more, nothing less.
But I AM worried, because I see a path by which these conniving shitstain Republicans can thwart the people's will and deny Trump Worry not. Trump has taken this country by storm. He is undeniably the most popular candidate on any side of any fence. The filthy socialist are so worried, that they are sending people to his appearances to cause disturbances. That is called FEAR. lol Trump will win the election with or without the (R) party... and soon, the (R) party will join the Trump craze once that high pitched voices, sleazy sounding Canadian drops out. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I hope you are right! People say Trump has no policies, but I've listened to him all along. He has policies, lots of them, and they're great. They're exactly what we need, all of us, from the bottom to the top. And Trump is honest. This is why he gets in trouble with the politically correct: he says what he thinks, and they've ruled many of those thoughts off- limits.
You gonna tell me to fuck off again? Or similar comments?
Yeah,it is. It is also a communist belief,and for the same reasons. It creates a society completely dependent on the Pope/Dictator for every aspect of their lives because they are responsible for nothing but worshiping the Maximum Leader and obeying all his dictates. Stalin was more benevolent than the Pope. All he threatened to do if you pissed him off was to make your short live a living hell. The Pope threatened to make the lives and afterlives on the people that pissed him off a daily hell for all of eternity. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
ROFLMAO! OK,that one did it! You went one GIANT step to far with your satire. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Why are you goading him? Having buyers remorse about letting him back on,and need a excuse to ban him again? BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Blah blah blah. Tell it to the Marines.
So am I. :( A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.
You're off topic shut up. Nunya.
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#2. To: nolu chan (#1)
It is blatant and Trump is making sure it is the center of attention.
#3. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
" if the GOP succeeds in stealing the election, that the party will be burnt to the ground in the aftermath. If Trump is robbed of the nomination by this chicken shit, "
#4. To: nativist nationalist (#0)
Will GOP Establishment Swindle Trump in Cleveland, Too?
#5. To: sneakypete (#4)
#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)
Trump will never drop out. He'll go to the convention. He'll try to litigate if he is robbed. He will fight and keep on fighting. He'll run as an independent and burn the party to the ground if they steal the nomination from him. And I'll help him do it.
#7. To: nativist nationalist (#0)
In South Carolina, where Trump swept the primary, a plot is afoot for a mass desertion of Trump delegates after the first ballot.
In state after state, when Trump wins, and moves on, the apparatchiks arrive — to thieve delegates for Cruz.
#8. To: sneakypete (#6)
You and Trump are both Dims to start out with,so no surprise there.
#9. To: tooestablishment, TooConservative (#7)
#10. To: buckeroo (#9)
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#11. To: Vicomte13 (#5)
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#12. To: GrandIsland (#11)
Have no fear.
#13. To: tooconservative, buckeroo, hondo68, sneakypete (#10)
#14. To: buckeroo (#12)
you might turn me in as a PATRIOT masked as a TERRORIST.
#15. To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz, tooconservative, sneakypete (#12)
libertysflame.com/cgi-bin...gi?ArtNum=45708&Disp=7#C7
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#16. To: GrandIsland (#14)
#17. To: GrandIsland (#14)
make new ID's to come back and terrorize some more.
#18. To: GrandIsland (#14)
You've terrorized every chit chat channel I've seen you post on.
#19. To: tooconservative (#10)
Not yet. I assume I'm just waiting for the hangman.
#20. To: hondo68, Fred Mertz (#15)
Fred has vowed to kiss ass to get his limit raised.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#19)
Score: 80
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#22. To: A K A Stone (#19)
#23. To: buckeroo (#20)
all Fred has to do is suggest
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#24. To: Vicomte13 (#8)
No, I was never, ever a Democrat.
#25. To: tooconservative, nativist nationalist (#7)
SC may go into court and contest Trump's delegates there because Trump is breaking his written pledge to support the party's nominee.
n state after state, Trump just fires his staff and doesn't keep them in place to help select delegates.
Trump does not have a national campaign in any meaningful sense.
#26. To: nolu chan (#25)
Damn, and Trump is still beating the shit out of Ted Cruz who is hiding in some dark corner, quivering like a scared poodle sitting in a puddle of warm piss. Just imagine if Trump got organized or had a real campaign like Cruz.
#27. To: hondo68 (#23)
Fred is a great statesman like Ron Paul.
#28. To: nolu chan (#25)
SC may get sanctioned for frivolous filing.
#29. To: buckeroo (#18)
Show objective evidence and supporting facts
#30. To: GrandIsland (#11)
Get ready to say it.... President Trump.
#31. To: sneakypete (#24)
Yes,you were and are.
#32. To: Vicomte13 (#30)
#33. To: GrandIsland (#32)
#34. To: Fred Mertz (#22)
#35. To: Vicomte13 (#31)
What I am is a Catholic: I believe in broad social welfare and a degree of wealth redistribution to provide a decent living for everybody, all the way to the bottom. This isn't a Democrat belief.
#36. To: Vicomte13, *Humor* (#33)
And Trump is honest.
#37. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz (#34)
You gonna tell me to fuck off again? Or similar comments?
#38. To: sneakypete (#35)
Yeah,it is. It is also a communist belief,and for the same reasons. It creates a society completely dependent on the Pope/Dictator for every aspect of their lives because they are responsible for nothing but worshiping the Maximum Leader and obeying all his dictates.
#39. To: buckeroo (#17)
you are too new @LP to even know your ranking
#40. To: sneakypete (#37)
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