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How come? Why would a man who has Trump’s cell phone number insist on knocking his team’s capabilities in print instead of complaining to the boss himself? The woman who ran Wisconsin for Trump previously ran Oklahoma for Trump. Trump lost. Prior to that, she had never run any political campaign, so there was no depth of experience. This is something I see again and again, particularly at the ground roots level. Now, I salute these people for their enthusiasm, but this is a science. This is not something we guess about. And now you move to a [series] of states like Colorado, Wyoming, and Arizona [which] should be watched very carefully. And those become hand-to-hand combat at state conventions or state committee meetings, where once again the Trump people have built no infrastructure. Why Trump didn’t pay more attention to organization, especially since he supposedly began thinking of running in 2016 several years ago, may be the great unsolved mystery of the campaign. But back to the question up top — why would a Trump loyalist like Stone, who’s gone so far as to threaten anti-Trump delegates on his pal’s behalf, feel obliged to talk up the campaign’s shortcomings in print? Stone’s heavily invested in the idea that it’d be “cheating” to “steal” the nomination from Trump if he finishes the primaries with the most delegates, yet every time he chirps about their lack of preparation he undermines the moral force of that argument. Is Cruz cheating, or is he just a better card player than Trump? The answer, I’d guess, has to do with the alleged power struggle within the Trump campaign last year that saw Stone and fellow advisor Sam Nunberg exit. According to New York magazine, Stone and Nunberg wanted Trump to invest more in — ta da — campaign infrastructure, but they were opposed by — ta da — Corey Lewandowski, who thought “that their current [media-heavy] approach was working fine.” Stone attacking Team Trump for not being better prepared for the long haul is, I assume, his way of telling Lewandowski “I told you so” in a visible way, on a site he knows is read by Trump fans. Stone and Nunberg aren’t the only Trump allies to find themselves being muscled out by Lewandowski either, if you believe Politico. If this is accurate, it’s a big deal: Behind the scenes, Lewandowski is fighting to preserve his own power and to box out Paul Manafort, who was hired last month to lead the campaign’s delegate corralling effort. “Corey and his people know the knives are out for them,” said one source close to the campaign, referring to Manafort as a “pretty experienced in-fighter.” On Saturday, Lewandowski went as far as to fire a young operative named James Baker, who’d been recently put in charge of its Colorado campaign—he’d arrived in the state less than 48 hours earlier—because he’d been communicating with Manafort after Lewandowski instructed him not to do so, two sources with direct knowledge of the situation confirmed. Manafort is scheduled to meet with Trump in New York Wednesday morning and likely to threaten to quit if he doesn’t see more cooperation, according to one source. “If Manafort walks, this thing comes apart,” they said. “And some of the people close to him are ready to walk.” Manafort’s the general tasked with winning the delegate war with Cruz. If he and his team quit due to tensions with Lewandowski, Cruz will be fighting for delegates virtually unopposed, making Trump’s task of getting a majority on the first ballot in Cleveland that much harder. Remember, it’s probable that Trump will finish close to 1,237 delegates after the final primaries are held but will still need to pick up some unbound delegates here and there to cross the finish line. Having Manafort onboard may be the difference in whether that happens or not, yet Lewandowski inexplicably is messing around by playing authority games with him among their deputies. One “high-level Trump supporter,” which may or may not be code for Roger Stone himself, told Politico, “Hopefully this wakes up the candidate, because Lewandowski can’t handle it from here.” It’s not just Politico either: NBC also has a story today about infighting in the campaign — “Certain people don’t want to lose power” — and warnings about mismanagement by Trump’s most prominent staffer. Quote: “[S]ources close to the candidate said Lewandowski has not been able to deliver tough advice to Trump when he needs it and doesn’t have the authority to demand that he be comprehensively prepared for interviews or public appearances.” Imagine the irony if Lewandowski, who’s become a lightning rod for anti-Trumpers after the Michelle Fields incident, ends up being their best friend first by shielding Trump from smart advice early in the campaign to build a more robust organization and later by alienating people like Manafort who might be their last best chance of winning the nomination. I bet Stone will have lots to say about him if it happens. Poster Comment: It's Stone/Manafort vs. Lewandowski, struggling for power on Team Trump. Lewandowski has been sidelined somewhat, especially since Trump's meeting with the RNC where it was reported that he remarked several times that his advisers had not made some aspects of the delegate battle clear to him. That could be no one other than Lewandowski. Anyway, we have seen very few articles about the interior of Trump's campaign so this is a rare piece. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: TooConservative (#0) Obviously we are now at a different part of the battle. Trump had to come from nowhere to dominance, and he did. Everybody else was shaken loose. But there is a core of ruthless evil at the heart of the Republican and Democrat parties. The Democrats have their Clintons and their bitter-enders. The Republicans have their Establishment and of course Ted Cruz. By my reckoning, Trump will finish between 35 and 50 delegates short, and Cruz will be a lot farther away from the nomination. Trump will need to pick up something like 1 delegate for every 5 that Cruz picks up from the Kasich/Rubio/Carson/Jeb!/Fiorina and general GOP superdelegate mix, but that assumes that Trump doesn't lose any of his own delegates if they become unbound. Given the evil of the GOP, it's a real question as to whether he can do it, and for this effort, the ability to reach out one by one is key. Now, it would be best by far if Trump himself did the reaching out: he can offer things, take things under advisement, give his phone number, take people on helo rides to Mar-a-Lago, etc., etc. But to do that, he has to have somebody make the introduction, and somebody get into the weeds to know who to talk too. I didn't agree that Trump needed experts to connect with the people before - he obviously didn't. But at this point, where we are talking about professional and semi-professional pols in a floor fight, and where every delegate is in some sense a committed partisan of some stripe, being able to infight is important. Trump has enormous advantages over Cruz, not the least of which is that he can offer financial support to local politicians for their future campaigns in a way that Cruz can't. He's going to need to bring that into play. Fortunately, he has time to organize this. Any notion that Trump is somehow a thrall under the control of Lewandowski is ridiculous. Trump is his own master. Thus far, he's liked what Lewandowski had to say, but now, to get to the end, what worked with the people, what will get him to 1202, won't get him to 1237. That last 35 or so is a different war. If Trump sees that and understands it, he'll shift to win. If he doesn't, or won't, he won't. Then Hillary will win. Cruz will never be President in any case. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-07   6:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Vicomte13 (#1) (Edited) The Republicans have their Establishment and of course Ted Cruz. A few months ago, people would have tittered at the idea of Ted Cruz as the darling of the GOPe. Actually, people like Lindsey Graham did. By my reckoning, Trump will finish between 35 and 50 delegates short, and Cruz will be a lot farther away from the nomination. Trump will need to pick up something like 1 delegate for every 5 that Cruz picks up from the Kasich/Rubio/Carson/Jeb!/Fiorina and general GOP superdelegate mix, but that assumes that Trump doesn't lose any of his own delegates if they become unbound. That's not unreasonable. And South Carolina has an avenue to unbind its Trump delegates if they are serious. That won't happen except in extremis. Now, it would be best by far if Trump himself did the reaching out: he can offer things, take things under advisement, give his phone number, take people on helo rides to Mar-a-Lago, etc., etc. But to do that, he has to have somebody make the introduction, and somebody get into the weeds to know who to talk too. It could turn into a bidding war between tycoons. The Adelson crew bidding against Trump. But Trump has been very cheap so far. But there is nothing to stop them from sending wheelbarrows full of cash right onto the convention floor in front of the cameras. No law forbids it. Jobs at the Fortune 500 (for spouses or children), scholarships for the kids to the Ivy League, ambassadorships, appointments to state offices, etc. Lots of opportunity for graft and corruption of every flavor. Trump has enormous advantages over Cruz, not the least of which is that he can offer financial support to local politicians for their future campaigns in a way that Cruz can't. He's going to need to bring that into play. Fortunately, he has time to organize this. Don't worry about Cruz. Worry about those backing him, those who have bankrolled the GOP into its highest historical level of GOP statehouses, legislatures and clawed their way to a huge House majority and a slim Senate majority. They won't keep their checkbooks closed. Don't kid yourself. The Kochs? Adelson? Let Trump outbid them? I think not. Any notion that Trump is somehow a thrall under the control of Lewandowski is ridiculous. Trump is his own master. Thus far, he's liked what Lewandowski had to say, but now, to get to the end, what worked with the people, what will get him to 1202, won't get him to 1237. You fail to grasp the importance of a candidate building a pro campaign team nationwide with organizations experienced operatives in the states and the candidate then having some discipline and preparation. You simply will not win the WH without that campaign machine. Never. Trump will lose because he's an amateur who is too lazy or cheap to spend the money and do the staffing and safeguard his own delegates. Cruz might not be the GOP nominee but I guarantee that Trump won't be. He isn't really even a national candidate. He's a traveling circus. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   7:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: TooConservative (#2) You fail to grasp the importance of a candidate building a pro campaign team nationwide with organizations experienced operatives in the states and the candidate then having some discipline and preparation. You simply will not win the WH without that campaign machine. Never. Trump will lose because he's an amateur who is too lazy or cheap to spend the money and do the staffing and safeguard his own delegates. I still personally believe that Trump WILL be the nominee, and WILL win the White House. So this will remain the point of contention between us. I think that people who have made a "profession" out of politics are sort of like civil servants. They really, truly believe themselves to be necessary, but they're really and truly not necessary. Karl Rove is to poster boy of a self-important, conceited, undereducated failure. He's made himself rich losing a bunch of battles. I perceive you think that men like Rove are almost as important as they think they are. I still think you're wrong. Had Trump followed the conventional political path, he would not be the Republican front-runner. He has connected with the people in a way that no political operative understands. But I do agree that Trump now needs to change his game in the last few months of the primary campaign. He needs to become focused on delegates. Cruz has done this already, and it's paid him some dividends. But Cruz has no charisma and he's an asshole. Which means that Trump, by turning his charm on individuals, can snatch them from Cruz, and can hold onto his own. Trump is a much more charming man than Cruz is. Cruz is like the rat-men who come in second on TV reality shows. I do not think that Trump EVER has to "knuckle under" to the paid political organizing class and do it their way. I think "their way" is a mechanical SUBSTITUTE for actual charisma and persuasiveness, a way that average people of average intellects and little charisma can be packaged and sold to a public that doesn't look too closely. In that role, they do a good job putting lipstick on pigs. With Trump, I think he's the real deal. A brilliant man whose ideas are his own and who has genuine charisma and leadership ability. Sometimes it's very difficult to keep momentum when you're following yourself, which is what he has had to do. Hiring men with less charisma and accomplishment and skill than he himself has to help him "connect" with people would be stupid. I'm glad he hasn't done it. It's a different game now, though, and the question is whether Donald will himself, without hiring professional advice, without a "Karl Rove" type to be the "mastermind", decide that it's time to start reaching out individually to delegates. He'll need men to set up the meetings, but then it will be him. If he wil, I think he will easily take Carson's delegates, and some of Rubios, some of Kasich's, and some ofthe supers, and get the 1237 and be done with it. He'll then beat Hillary. But if he doesn't do that Cruz and the pols may steal it. Unfortunately for them, they will have staged a mutiny on the Titanic and still go down on the iceberg Hillary. Hillary won't be indicted. She'll win the nomination and be the candidate. I think Trump can beat her by taking away parts of her base. Cruz has no chance, in part because the only way he can be the nominee is by stealing it from Cruz, and then there are plenty of non-Republicans who will vote for Trump, and even a straight GOP ticket to give Trump a favorable Congress, who won't vote for Cruz or for the GOP if they steal it from Trump. The opposite is also true, but Trump can still get independents and Democrats to vote for him and win. Cruz is not appealing to anybody. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-07   7:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: Vicomte13 (#3) But I do agree that Trump now needs to change his game in the last few months of the primary campaign. He needs to become focused on delegates. It may already be too late. The tortoise almost always beats the hare in these races for delegates. It's a different game now, though, and the question is whether Donald will himself, without hiring professional advice, without a "Karl Rove" type to be the "mastermind", decide that it's time to start reaching out individually to delegates. He'll need men to set up the meetings, but then it will be him. Manafort is a pro. Unfortunately, Trump needs at least a dozen of them. And Lewandowski is undercutting Manafort and Trump is apparently unaware or unable to resolve this nothing of a crisis among his subordinates. This gets back to the building of a national campaign team to handle his campaign. Trump's done none of that and what little he did do was something he only used during the state campaigns, not keeping his state organizations alive until the general election. Trump simply is not prepared to run a real national general election campaign. Period. And all this free media that Trump has lived off of? That all disappears the day he wins the GOP nomination and the libmedia switches to endless replays of all the damaging footage, the rash statements, the ridiculous pandering to crowds, etc. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   7:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: TooConservative (#4) Manafort is a pro. Unfortunately, Trump needs at least a dozen of them. And Lewandowski is undercutting Manafort and Trump is apparently unaware or unable to resolve this nothing of a crisis among his subordinates. This gets back to the building of a national campaign team to handle his campaign. Trump's done none of that and what little he did do was something he only used during the state campaigns, not keeping his state organizations alive until the general election. Trump simply is not prepared to run a real national general election campaign. Period. And all this free media that Trump has lived off of? That all disappears the day he wins the GOP nomination and the libmedia switches to endless replays of all the damaging footage, the rash statements, the ridiculous pandering to crowds, etc. You clearly believe in the "necessity" of your political class, and in fighting the war a certain way. I don't think it's necessary. If Trump is not the nominee, you will have been right. If Trump is the nominee, I will have been. Of course the general election is a new campaign. But Hillary is a felon, and Trump hasn't spent much money. Once he's the nominee, there will be money, and he will wield it, and win, because he is appealing to the public, and she is a Democrat Ted Cruz. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-07   8:21:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: TooConservative (#4) You know, the REAL "organization" candidate in this race is Bernie Sanders. By mobilizing things at the very grass-roots, he has gained a following who contributes to him and votes for him. Right now, Hillary's voters say they'd vote for Sanders, but 25% of Sanders' voters say they WON'T vote for Hillary. Hillary has all of the top organizers, but Sanders people are organized - and COMMITTED - which makes the difference. We may end up in a paradox: the outsider WINS on the Democrat side, and the Senator wins by skulduggery on the Republican side. Cruz versus Sanders, Sanders walks away with it. Vicomte13  posted on  2016-04-07   8:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Vicomte13 (#5) Of course the general election is a new campaign. No, it isn't. It is a continuation of all the state campaigns. The nominee is expected to have their own GOTV operation, phone banks, offices, fundraising networks, etc. You (and Trump) seem to believe that the RNC waves a magic wand and all those nice things appear. Well, they don't. Each nominee has to build their own political machine to win the WH. This is just one reason why the GOPe has no confidence that Trump can win. Shooting your mouth off to a bunch of voters in a Southern primary is a lot different than having a political machine in every state to take on the Dems. But Hillary is a felon, and Trump hasn't spent much money. Once he's the nominee, there will be money, and he will wield it, and win I see nothing other than your fantasy to support that idea. Certainly, nothing that Trump has done. Some things cannot just be whipped up on short order. Like 50+ campaign machines in the states. Cruz has managed to build such a campaign in every state. This is part of why pro pols win elections and arrogant amateurs who think they are their own campaign manager get bupkis. The record of tyro candidates in America makes this pretty clear. Populists fail because populism is inherently disorganized. In this way, it carries its own seeds of destruction. Trump is nothing new in the way of populist pol wannabes. Tooconservative  posted on  2016-04-07   8:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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