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politics and politicians Title: John Kasich: The Candidate Who Wouldn’t Leave Then came Lee’s creepy voiceover: “It came without warning! They were just being Polite! They didn’t realize that they’d be stuck with . . . The Thing That Wouldn’t Leave”! John Kasich is this election season’s The Thing That Wouldn’t Leave. After investing everything in New Hampshire, Kasich came in second, doing worse than Jon Huntsman had in his race-ending performance in 2012. Kasich’s response? He didn’t just declare victory, he proclaimed, “Tonight, the light overcame the darkness.” Since then, Kasich has lost some 30 contests and won one — in his home state of Ohio. But still, he just won’t go. It’s not just that Kasich can’t take a hint, it’s that he appears to be living in a kind of fantasy world, largely defined by three myths or delusions. The first is the most endearing. Kasich has the best résumé of the remaining candidates. Heck, he arguably had the best résumé of the entire 2016 field, if by “best” you mean the longest and deepest government experience. He’s not delusional about that. What he is confused about is the idea that a lot of people care that he was, say, the chairman of the House Budget Committee two decades ago. According to legend, a supporter once shouted at Adlai Stevenson, “Governor Stevenson, all thinking people are for you!” Stevenson shot back, “That’s not enough. I need a majority!” Even if Kasich is right that his résumé makes him the best qualified to be president — a debatable proposition — the simple fact is that after nearly three dozen contests, relatively few voters agree with him. Ah, but what about the delegates? If it’s a contested convention and neither Donald Trump nor Ted Cruz has enough delegates to lock up the nomination, won’t they turn to Kasich? Not necessarily. But don’t tell that to the Ohio governor, who goes from interview to interview insisting that he’d be the natural choice for the convention. Why would he be? Well, that answer varies. Kasich’s most frequently stated reason is that delegates will choose him because he beats Hillary Clinton in the polls. And it’s true that Kasich does marginally better than Cruz in hypothetical matchups against Clinton — and a lot better than Trump. Left unanswered is why the delegates — many of them loyal to Trump and Cruz — would gamely back The Thing That Wouldn’t Leave. After the second or third round of voting, delegates are free to cast their ballots for whomever they want. There’s little evidence that they’d want Kasich, and they’d be under no obligation to vote for him over, say, Paul Ryan or Marco Rubio — or, for that matter, Rush Limbaugh or Shaquille O’Neal. Indeed, for many delegates, it would seem either unfair or downright crazy to skip over bigger vote-getters and back Kasich just because he won his home state of Ohio. Of course, what that leaves out is the fact that Kasich is running as a hopeful, positive, uplifting champion of light over darkness. That brings us to yet another Kasich delusion, and this one is shared by many of his backers as well. Call it the myth of Kasich the hugger. In South Carolina, a college student asked the Ohio governor for one of his supposedly famous hugs. It wasn’t until later that we learned the huggee worked for the hugger’s super PAC. More to the point, Kasich is simply not the touchy-feely guy he’s pretending to be or that he perhaps thinks he is. The man is famously irascible, pugnacious, and sanctimonious. He’s prone to defending his policies, such as his expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare in Ohio, by insinuating that he cares more about his eternal soul than his critics. A lot of people talk about how unlikeable Cruz is. Well, I’ve met both men, and I’d much rather have a beer with Cruz. Maybe Kasich’s denial stems from the fact that he has never lost a race and can’t contemplate failing this time. I really have no idea. All I know is that it’s time for him to go. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-1) not displayed.
#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1) (Edited) After Bernie, he's my man. Fred, quick, edit your post or you will be shunned and/or banished once again.
#3. To: buckeroo (#2) We need to buy Pebbles a one-way ticket to Cleveland in mid-July. He'll join the Trump riots. My last post of the day.
#4. To: Fred Mertz (#3) I didn't intend to put a damper on your post quotas. Stone did that .. to ya, did he? Let the riots begin!
#5. To: Fred Mertz, buckeroo (#3) buy Pebbles a one-way ticket to Cleveland in mid-July. He'll join the Trump riots Governor Kasich may call out the Ohio National Goons to subdue stone, and ensure that a governor from Ohio is the nominee. ![]() ![]() #6. To: Fred Mertz (#1) After Bernie You filthy socialist. I'm gonna laugh as he loses any hope for a presidential win... and then realizes he's too old to breathe long enough for another run. lol The best part of a liberal is that eventual one foot in the grave when it arrives. By the way, how old are you, you I love Lucy watching dinosaur? lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #7. To: TooConservative (#0) I've met both men, and I'd much rather have a beer with Cruz. Well hell yeah. Cruz has a fine ass bevy of ho's to choose from, while Kasich would prefer an altar boy.
#8. To: Fred Mertz (#1) Mailman's son and all. Het, I am a mailman's son. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #9. To: GrandIsland, Ready for Hillary, Loser Drumpf, Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#6) You filthy socialist. Kasich does well in polls against Hillary. But you want a President Xlinton #45, so you're backing the least electable candidate.... Trump the loser. If Fred could post he'd tell you that you're a F'n retard! Stone, please free Fred Mertz so that he can respond to GI and your posts. ![]() #10. To: hondo68 (#9) Nobody was even talking to you, liberal. Typical liberal, you think everything is about you. Mind your own business, and continue on with your 100% never saying anything bad about a (D). I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #11. To: hondo68 (#5) FUNNY PICTURES OF KASICK AS KUALAS. LOL !! I can picture him swinging around in a tree. The picture in uniform should have been a US Mail uniform. LOL! Thanks for posting, good laugh! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur #12. To: GrandIsland, Trump Pumpin' (#10) Go back to your Trump pumpin', creep. ![]() #13. To: Stoner, Fred Mertz (#11) Free Fred Mertz !!!![]() #14. To: hondo68, redleghunter (#12) I can't get over how incredibly tiny his hands are.
#15. To: TooConservative (#14) Comment Removed Inappropriate
#16. To: A K A Stone (#15) I can't stand Kasich. I never get why you make up such bizarre lies about people who disagree with you. I've probably never made a single nice post about Kasich here yet you just make this nonsense up. So does doing that on a regular basis tend to discredit me (as you intend) or are you just discrediting yourself (unintentionally)?
#17. To: TooConservative, SOSO, sneakypete, hondo68, Stoner, war, GrandIsand (#9) If Fred could post he'd tell you that you're a F'n retard! Thank you, hondopehead. Pebbles allowed me 2 posts a
#18. To: Fred Mertz (#17) Thank you, hondopehead. I'm about to make it 1 post per day. Until you say you are sorry and promise to never do it again. Then zero.
#19. To: TooConservative (#16) I can't stand Kasich I don't believe you. I think you would vote for Kasich.
#20. To: A K A Stone (#19) I think you would vote for Kasich. I'd say "maybe", unlike Trump which is "never". Kasich is a flake but he did have a strong record as a fiscal conservative in the House leadership, whatever his other shortcomings (which are many). But then, I'm in a solid Red state presidentially and congressionally. So I can be more-conservative-than-thou without worrying about the consequences of not voting or voting third-party.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#18) Some of us think you'd look good in a dress. Apologize for what?
#22. To: TooConservative (#20) So I can be more-conservative-than-thou You're not really that conservative.
#23. To: Fred Mertz (#21) Some of us think you'd look good in a dress. Any man who thinks another man would "look good in a dress" should eat a buckshot sandwich... Being queer is a violation of momma nature. Suicide is the only solution.... was it you that thinks every family has a queer in the house? Or was that Huey Deckard? I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #24. To: GrandIsland (#23) So, how is Trump gonna pay for all his campaign lies? You are going to give up your free government pension programs and (of course) enjoy a tax increase. LQQKS like you will be on the street corner with all the other bums begging for free koffee & donuts.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#22) You're not really that conservative. Compared to Trump (or Romney or Stain or the Bushes), sure I am.
#26. To: Fred Mertz (#21) Apologize for what? I didn't see it myself but it was alleged you issued a FU to Stone. He's very offended when anyone uses such blue language.
#27. To: buckeroo (#24) (Edited) Don't be a dipstick, Bucky. Trump won't ever hurt the working man... He just might make all those lazy welfare F cks starve to death. You know, capitalism. Something you drug loving OWS turd birds know little about. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح #28. To: TooConservative (#26) He is? How does he use "blue language" in his article banners? ALL THE TYME.
#29. To: GrandIsland (#27) (Edited) capitalism how do you know anything about "capitalism" ... ah, yes you read karl marx one day while waiting on your morning shift for the wittle boyz&girlz to walk across the street going to school. that was the day when you rose up and outta your beach chair on the korner, screaming at the top of your lungs ... Iam free! you sat back, kicked some of your empty beer cans outta way of your feet and went to sleep waiting for a government pension.
#30. To: TooConservative (#25) Compared to Trump (or Romney or Stain or the Bushes), sure I am You are more conservative than Romney. Less conservative than Trump on the border, Trade and probably some other stuff if I think about it. I say that because Romeny is far to the left of Trump but you like him.
#31. To: buckeroo (#28) He is? How does he use "blue language" in his article banners? ALL THE TYME. I do. I confess. Please forgive me.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#30) You are more conservative than Romney. Definitely.
Less conservative than Trump on the border That would be true only if Trump wasn't lying through his teeth. I don't believe for one second that Trump will close that border. He's playing you and a lot of others for a fool.
#33. To: A K A Stone, Fred mertz (#31)
#34. To: TooConservative (#32) That would be true only if Trump wasn't lying through his teeth. I think you are wrong. Here is why. He has talked about foreigners flooding our country for a long time. He has talked about how Japan and China rip us off on Trade since the 80's. He has been consistent on that one. Also I truly believe he loves this country and doesn't want to see it become a peon participant if a global government. He is the only candidate that is against these sell out trade deals. That goes hand in hand with deporting illegals. You know what though. Honestly when I talk to some Hispanic illegals. Personally I like them. The ones I have conversed with. Just saying.
#35. To: buckeroo (#33) I do. I confess. Please forgive me. FREE FRED! Off topic, Buck. Fred is free. To start his own site and run it like he wants to. He can PM pinguinite at freedom4um.
#36. To: A K A Stone (#35) Fred is free. To start his own site and run it like he wants to. You are a fucking idiot.
#37. To: buckeroo (#36) You are a fucking idiot. And I didn't even sanction you. I bet every other forum host would.
#38. To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#36) You are a fucking idiot. Don't insult the host providing you a free forum. I never supported it when people did it to Goldi, I don't support it here either. Stone pays the tab for us to sound off here. Fred should just apologize. It isn't like Stone expects he would be sincere or contrite.
#39. To: TooConservative (#38) Stone owes LF an apoligy for ALL his article banners with 'blue commentary.'
#40. To: buckeroo (#39) Stone owes LF an apoligy for ALL his article banners with 'blue commentary.' Send pinguinite a check for 500 bucks and I will apologize.
#41. To: A K A Stone (#40) Isn't a transaction like your proposal, known as a bribe?
#42. To: buckeroo (#41) Isn't a transaction like your proposal, known as a bribe? Call it what you will? Deal?
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