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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: In two weeks, Cruz will be a zombie candidate like Kasich
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Published: Apr 5, 2016
Author: nolui chan
Post Date: 2016-04-05 16:21:25 by nolu chan
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In two weeks, Cruz will be a zombie candidate like Kasich

by nolu chan
April 5, 2016

I have used linked data from the NYT and 538. Using other sources may vary the data somewhat over who has how many delegates and how many are left.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/primary-calendar-and-results.html

2016 Delegate Count and Primary Results

By WILSON ANDREWS, KITTY BENNETT and ALICIA PARLAPIANO
New York Times
UPDATED APRIL 5, 2016

736 Trump has

806 remaining delegates

463 Cruz has

1269 Cruz -- if he takes all remaining available delegates

1237 needed

32 What Cruz can lose

33 What Trump/Kasich combined need to make a Cruz majority impossible

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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-donald-trump-clinch-the-republican-nomination-before-the-convention/

2016 Election

6:30 AM Mar 21, 2016

Will Trump Clinch The GOP Nomination Before The Convention?

We don’t know, but our survey of delegate experts suggests it’ll be close.

By Harry Enten and Nate Silver

In addition to Nate Silver’s and my estimates, we tried to include a diverse set of opinions from across the political spectrum. We also focused on analysts who have been following the delegate race closely and know the intricacies of the GOP’s delegate rules. Our panel included these people:

  • Adam Geller: founder and CEO of National Research Inc. and the lead pollster for Chris Christie’s presidential campaign

  • Daniel Nichanian: contributing editor to Daily Kos Elections and PhD candidate in political science at the University of Chicago.

  • Henry Olsen: senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center

  • Margie Omero: managing director at Purple Insights

  • Patrick Ruffini: co-founder and partner at Echelon Insights and chairman and founder of Engage

  • David Wasserman: House editor at the Cook Political Report and FiveThirtyEight contributor

The "expert" panel for 538 (not a Donald Trump fan club) estimates 71 (of 95) New York delegates for Trump.

Unless one can find a way to plausibly claim that Trump/Kasich combined will take less than 33 delegates, the Cruz campaign claim to a clear path to a majority will become a mathematical impossibility after April 19th.

After that, Trump will be running against not one, but two zombie candidates seeking votes for the sole purpose of locking the convention so that the GOP establishment can select the candidate for the voting public. That will be a very difficult sell.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_republican_presidential_primary-4222.html

The Real Clear Politics Poll of Polls indicates the following average for New York:

53.3% -- Trump

21.3% -- Kasich

19.0% -- Cruz

+32.0 -- Trump

Estimating only 71 for Trump is being generous to Kasich/Cruz. Cruz is likely to be obliterated in the northeastern states. In two weeks, after New York, Cruz will be just another zombie candidate like Kasich.

In two weeks, if one believes Cruz, Cruz should drop out for the same precise reason that Cruz now claims Kasich should drop out.

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#9. To: nolu chan (#0)

In two weeks, Cruz will be a zombie candidate

Not if he continues to have enough zombies voting for him.

rlk  posted on  2016-04-05   20:53:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: rlk (#9)

Not if he continues to have enough zombies voting for him.

He needs to stop Trump/Kasich combined from taking another 33 delegates. The cast of extras from The Walking Dead won't be enough. He will be another Kasich from mid-April until the primaries end in June.

If he tells the truth, very unlikely, all he could tell his supporters is to vote for Cruz to give him leverage against Trump to force Trump to adopt him as a VP candidate (if he can stop Trump from gaining a 1237 majority). The establishment will never adopt Cruz as their candidate.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-04-05   22:45:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: nolu chan (#33)

The establishment will never adopt Cruz as their candidate.

No, a miracle has occurred.

Trump poses a serious threat to grabbing the nomination and dragging the entire GOP down to a Goldwater-scale defeat.

Cruz looks downright peachy, even to the Stain and Lady Lindsey (who used to joke that no senator would be prosecuted for murdering Cruz in cold blood). Now the Little Lady is hosting fundraisers and endorsing Cruz. Cruz hasn't changed his positions but Trump has scared the crap out of the GOPe.

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