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Title: Trump Is No Pro-Lifer
Source: First Things
URL Source: http://www.firstthings.com/web-excl ... ge&utm_campaign=partnertraffic
Published: Mar 31, 2016
Author: Robert P. George
Post Date: 2016-03-31 10:14:26 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 4849
Comments: 33

When candidates for high office are faking it in order to persuade a party's base that, appearances and past record to the contrary notwithstanding, they really, really are “with the program,” they step into dangerous territory. They need to say what the base wants to hear. Indeed, they need to sound like one of the faithful.

But since they are faking it, and not actually speaking from conviction, the risk is grave that they will say something that blows their cover. Indeed, the risk is always there that they will say something that sounds to true believers like a caricature or burlesque of the philosophy they are purporting to embrace.

Do you recall when it happened to Mitt Romney?

In responding to a challenge to the authenticity of his claim to be a true conservative, he proclaimed himself to be “severely conservative.” At that instant, every conservative in the country knew the former Massachusetts governor was faking it. For no conservative ever had, or ever would, describe conservatism (or his own conservatism) as “severe.”

Indeed Governor Romney had spoken of conservatives as liberals speak of conservatives, not as conservatives speak of (or understand) themselves. He might as well have confessed outright to being a phony. The effect would have been no different.

Now, predictably, Donald Trump has done it.

The Republican base is pro-life—solidly, fervently so. To win the Party's nomination, Trump—a life-long abortion supporter and Planned Parenthood enthusiast—therefore had to pretend to have experienced a Pauline conversion to the pro-life cause. To make sure everyone knew how deep and sincere his conversion was, he yesterday stated that women who have abortions should be punished. But in saying this, he gave himself away, just as Mitt Romney had done.

Most pro-lifers and the entire mainstream pro-life movement oppose, and have always opposed, punishing women who seek abortions. Their goal is, and has been for as long as we've had a pro-life movement, restoring the historic laws of abortion (which were overturned in Roe v. Wade) that punished abortionists, and did not punish women.

In fact, Mr. Trump seems to have stumbled onto the best possible way of signaling to true pro-lifers that he is not one of them. He has inadvertantly embraced an idea that is falsely attributed to pro-life citizens by their opponents to weaken the pro-life cause by tarring pro-lifers as punitive, vindictive people who would send women, many of whom are desperate and frightened, and some of whom are acting under pressure or even coercion in seeking abortions, to prison.

Mr. Trump evidently wants to show us how genuine his conversion is by depicting himself as severely pro-life. But pro-lifers are compassionate, seeking the good of unborn children and their mothers, never pitting them or their interests against each other. We are interested in saving babies, not punishing mothers. And we know that we don't need to punish mothers to save babies.

What Mr. Trump has succeeded in showing pro-life Americans is that he is not one of us.

Robert P. George is the McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence at Princeton University.

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The Republican base is pro-life—solidly, fervently so.

If that is true, it certainly hasn't been demonstrated by a congress held by a majority of supposedly pro-life Republicans. Even when combined with a supposedly pro-life Bush, what changed?

Nothing.

There is no argument that Trump was pro-choice. He has said as much. He says he is a relatively recent convert, which is exactly what the pro-life movement should want from all people pro-choice. Apparently he hasn't thought through the issue thoroughly on the point of a legal ban and punishment, but from the dialog with Matthews, the characterization of Trump's position of punishing women is misconstrued. As I mentioned before, it seems Trump was simply naturally applying the logic that violating any ban needs to include punishment or it's simply not a ban.

It's interesting to compare the abortion issue with illegal immigration. Conservatives want to ban illegal immigration, but if so, what should be the punishment? Certainly mainstream media doesn't want to punish illegal immigration, in effect, doing away with the word "illegal". I'm sure that term is all but politically incorrect and will be treated as such at the first opportunity.

Trump is showing an element in this that I do not like in him, and that's the authoritarian streak he has. He's not an advocate of civil liberty, and as an authoritarian, punishing anyone violating any ban is a necessity. That seems the context of his statement.

However, what I do like in Trump is a demonstrated is an ability to change his views when he comes upon new information. This is something all normal people do and should do, if they want to actually adapt to now situations and take advantage of new opportunities. Those ordinary people who never change their minds no matter what changes around them are the same ones who never leave home when flood waters rise or a volcano starts erupting. Politicians who never change their minds often have special interests they are sworn to. Trump is neither of these.

Sure that makes him a bit of a loose cannon if he gets the presidency. He'll do what he thinks is right at the time. But what, pray tell, is the alternative? Hillary or Cruz? With Trump, there are no certainties. We do get certainties with the other two, but would you prefer those certainties to Trumps uncertainties?

I don't. Nothing has changed in the USA in the conservative cause for many years in spite of having control of both Congress and the presidency. Nothing. I don't even know why they call it a conservative "movement" because nothing moves with supposed conservatives. Nothing.

The USA is in serious trouble, getting more serious with each year and presidential term. The debt is huge, and growing larger, the economy is going the way the Japanese economy has been for the past 20 years due to mismanagment. Trump is the best option for dealing with sour economics, rooting out corruption, and making the fed gov accountable to the people (I'm expecting declassifications of myriads of docs that are classified only for political purposes to hide criminal activity). Pro-lifers can complain that abortion is still legal and that's fine, but dissing Trump in favor of Hillary or Cruz is not going t make a pro-life difference. And if Cruz is as pro-life as W Bush was, then we can look forward to millions more dying in needless wars similar to those that died under W's egotistical stint in Iraq.

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If that is true, it certainly hasn't been demonstrated by a congress held by a majority of supposedly pro-life Republicans. Even when combined with a supposedly pro-life Bush, what changed?

You ignore the federal partial-birth abortion ban. While it had mixed results, the Court would not allow any more than that. There were many good-faith attempts by Republicans, at the federal level and out in the states.

However, what I do like in Trump is a demonstrated is an ability to change his views when he comes upon new information.

Yes, Donaldo is courageous to flipflip while you admire his manliness and wisdom.

You have to be kidding.

Blundering into giving the enemy a propaganda victory because you're too stupid or lazy to do any study at all (despite an abundant record of libmedia playing 'gotcha' with GOP candidates, inevitable in a Chrissy interview) is not really admirable in any way.

Any other candidate did this, you'd be mocking him. But when Trump does it, you think he's brilliant. But he isn't. And you end up with egg on your face as the Dems ramp up their War On Women propaganda to tar every GOP candidate with it.

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