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Title: Unanimous pro-Second-Amendment stun gun decision from the Supreme Court
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Published: Mar 22, 2016
Author: By Eugene Volokh
Post Date: 2016-03-22 20:12:32 by tpaine
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Unanimous pro-Second-Amendment stun gun decision from the Supreme Court

By Eugene Volokh March 22 at 8:16 AM In Commonwealth v. Caetano,

The Massachusetts high court upheld Massachusetts’ total ban on stun gun possession. Yesterday’s Caetano v. Massachusetts decision from the Supreme Court reversed that Massachusetts decision and sent the case back to the Massachusetts court for further review (presumably to consider, for instance, whether the ban may still be justified by some sufficiently important government interest):

The Court has held that “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,” and that this “Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States.” In this case, the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts upheld a Massachusetts law prohibiting the possession of stun guns after examining “whether a stun gun is the type of weapon contemplated by Congress in 1789 as being protected by the Second Amendment.”

The court offered three explanations to support its holding that the Second Amendment does not extend to stun guns. First, the court explained that stun guns are not protected because they “were not in common use at the time of the Second Amendment’s enactment.” This is inconsistent with D.C. v. Heller‘s clear statement that the Second Amendment “extends … to … arms … that were not in existence at the time of the founding.”

The court next asked whether stun guns are “dangerous per se at common law and unusual,” in an attempt to apply one “important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms,” Heller; see ibid. (referring to “the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons’”). In so doing, the court concluded that stun guns are “unusual” because they are “a thoroughly modern invention.” By equating “unusual” with “in common use at the time of the Second Amendment’s enactment,” the court’s second explanation is the same as the first; it is inconsistent with Heller for the same reason.

Finally, the court used “a contemporary lens” and found “nothing in the record to suggest that [stun guns] are readily adaptable to use in the military.” But Heller rejected the proposition “that only those weapons useful in warfare are protected.”

For these three reasons, the explanation the Massachusetts court offered for upholding the law contradicts this Court’s precedent. Consequently, the petition for a writ of certiorari and the motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis are granted. The judgment of the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts is vacated, and the case is remanded for further proceedings not inconsistent with this opinion.

A few thoughts (note that I co-filed an friend-of-the-court brief supporting review in this case):

1. This is a unanimous decision, unlike the court’s earlier Second Amendment cases — D.C. v. Heller and McDonald v. City of Chicago — which were 5-4. I doubt that Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor, who were in the dissent in McDonald, are reconciled to those cases; I suspect they would be willing to overrule them if they had five votes to do so. But in this case, they were willing to accept them as given.

2. It was also a decision handed down without oral argument and without full briefing on the merits. (The parties filed a petition for certiorari, a brief in opposition, and a reply brief, but those formally dealt just with the question whether the court should hear the case.) The court thus seemed to view this as a very easy case.

3. The summary reversal also helps explain why the justices reversed only the Massachusetts high court’s conclusion that stun guns were definitionally excluded from Second Amendment protection: Whether the stun gun ban may still be justified is a more complicated question, which many justices may hesitate to resolve without oral argument and full briefing; and those justices might have thought that there’s no need to devote such resources to the case now, since the matter might go away if the Massachusetts high court on remand holds in Caetano’s favor.

4. Caetano’s petition and our amicus brief argued that there was a split between the reasoning of this decision and the Connecticut Supreme Court’s decision in State v. DeCiccio (which held that the Second Amendment protects dirks and police batons), as well as between this decision and the Michigan Court of Appeals’ decision in State v. Yanna, which struck down the Michigan stun gun ban. But the majority mentioned neither case, and Justice Samuel Alito’s concurrence in the judgment mentioned only Yanna, and that just in passing. The justices thus didn’t seem interested in the presence of this sort of disagreement among lower courts, though the presence of such a disagreement is often seen as a very important factor in the Supreme Court’s deciding whether to grant review. The justices just seemed to think the reasoning of the decision was plainly wrong, and that was reason enough to reverse — something the justices very rarely do (at least setting aside cases where a state government lost below).

5. Justices Alito and Clarence Thomas would have gone further and would have held outright that the Massachusetts ban was unconstitutional; their opinion was fairly long, but here’s an excerpt from the end:

The reasoning of the Massachusetts court poses a grave threat to the fundamental right of self-defense. The Supreme Judicial Court suggested that Caetano could have simply gotten a firearm to defend herself. But the right to bear other weapons is “no answer” to a ban on the possession of protected arms. Moreover, a weapon is an effective means of self-defense only if one is prepared to use it, and it is presumptuous to tell Caetano she should have been ready to shoot the father of her two young children if she wanted to protect herself. Courts should not be in the business of demanding that citizens use more force for self-defense than they are comfortable wielding.

Countless people may have reservations about using deadly force, whether for moral, religious, or emotional reasons — or simply out of fear of killing the wrong person. “Self-defense,” however, “is a basic right.” I am not prepared to say that a State may force an individual to choose between exercising that right and following her conscience, at least where both can be accommodated by a weapon already in widespread use across the Nation.

* * *

A State’s most basic responsibility is to keep its people safe. The Commonwealth of Massachusetts was either unable or unwilling to do what was necessary to protect Jaime Caetano, so she was forced to protect herself. To make matters worse, the Commonwealth chose to deploy its prosecutorial resources to prosecute and convict her of a criminal offense for arming herself with a nonlethal weapon that may well have saved her life. The Supreme Judicial Court then affirmed her conviction on the flimsiest of grounds. This Court’s grudging per curiam now sends the case back to that same court. And the consequences for Caetano may prove more tragic still, as her conviction likely bars her from ever bearing arms for self- defense.

If the fundamental right of self-defense does not protect Caetano, then the safety of all Americans is left to the mercy of state authorities who may be more concerned about disarming the people than about keeping them safe.

I assume that Alito and Thomas are trying to (1) persuade lower courts, both the Massachusetts courts and other courts, that such bans are indeed unconstitutional and (2) to inform them that at least two justices are firmly against such stun gun bans — and the views of the six other justices are unknown, but might also ultimately align with Alito and Thomas, if the matter returns to the Court for full merits review.

6. Alito’s introductory paragraphs also struck me as quite rhetorically powerful — a fine example of the lawyer’s art:

After a “bad altercation” with an abusive boyfriend put her in the hospital, Jaime Caetano found herself homeless and “in fear for [her] life.” She obtained multiple restraining orders against her abuser, but they proved futile. So when a friend offered her a stun gun “for self-defense against [her] former boy friend,” Caetano accepted the weapon.

It is a good thing she did. One night after leaving work, Caetano found her ex- boyfriend “waiting for [her] outside.” He “started screaming” that she was “not gonna [expletive deleted] work at this place” any more because she “should be home with the kids” they had together. Caetano’s abuser towered over her by nearly a foot and outweighed her by close to 100 pounds. But she didn’t need physical strength to protect herself. She stood her ground, displayed the stun gun, and announced: “I’m not gonna take this anymore…. I don’t wanna have to [use the stun gun on] you, but if you don’t leave me alone, I’m gonna have to.” The gambit worked. The ex-boyfriend “got scared and he left [her] alone.”

It is settled that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms that applies against both the Federal Government and the States. That right vindicates the “basic right” of “individual self-defense.” Caetano’s encounter with her violent ex-boyfriend illustrates the connection between those fundamental rights: By arming herself, Caetano was able to protect against a physical threat that restraining orders had proved useless to prevent. And, commendably, she did so by using a weapon that posed little, if any, danger of permanently harming either herself or the father of her children.

Under Massachusetts law, however, Caetano’s mere possession of the stun gun that may have saved her life made her a criminal. When police later discovered the weapon, she was arrested, tried, and convicted. The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court affirmed the conviction, holding that a stun gun “is not the type of weapon that is eligible for Second Amendment protection” because it was “not in common use at the time of [the Second Amendment’s] enactment.”

This reasoning defies our decision in Heller, which rejected as “bordering on the frivolous” the argument “that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment.” The decision below also does a grave disservice to vulnerable individuals like Caetano who must defend themselves because the State will not.

7. There’s a stun gun case being litigated now in D.C., and there are similar stun gun bans in New York, New Jersey, Hawaii and Rhode Island, as well as (as of 2009, when I wrote my “Nonlethal Self-Defense, (Almost Entirely) Nonlethal Weapons, and the Rights to Keep and Bear Arms and Defend Life,” article) the Virgin Islands, the Annapolis/Baltimore area counties, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Tacoma and several other cities. I expect there will be challenges to some of those laws as well. Connecticut, Illinois, Fargo, and Oklahoma City also ban carrying stun guns, though not possessing them at home; those laws might likewise be challenged. (Caetano herself was carrying a stun gun in public, but neither the Massachusetts ban nor the Massachusetts high court decision distinguished home possession of a stun gun from possession in public, so the Caetano Supreme Court opinion doesn’t decide whether the Second Amendment applies to possessing stun guns — or any other weapons — in public places


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The Court has held that “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,” and that this “Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States."

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#5. To: tpaine (#0) (Edited)

The Court has held that “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms,

Prima facie, yes, but subject to further consideration and analysis.

One cannot simply ban a weapon as not covered by the Constitutional protection. One has to have a defensible reason to do it.

A suitcase nuke is a bearable weapon, but possession of one is not protected by the right to keep and bear arms.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-22   22:04:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13, buckeroo, *Bang List* (#5)

has to have a defensible reason to do it

suitcase nuke is a bearable weapon, but possession of one is not protected

Forbidden by the 2nd.

The constitution does NOT say that YOU get to decide. You'll need to get an amendment passed for your infringement schemes.

Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority Now!

Hondo68  posted on  2016-03-23   13:26:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68 (#14) (Edited)

So hondo, you're another one.

Tpaine and Hondo, two 2nd Amendment standard bearers who really believe that the 2nd Amendment protects their right to have a personal nuclear weapon in their basement.

This is why you are losing your gun rights. Your absolutist position is nuts, and nuts shouldn't have weapons.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-23   13:43:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Vicomte13 (#15)

Tpaine and Hondo, two 2nd Amendment standard bearers who really believe that the 2nd Amendment protects their right to have a personal nuclear weapon in their basement.

Well having a nuke in your home is not practical nor safe.

I know a little about storage of nuclear weapons as I'm sure you do.

The proper shielding material is expensive and bulky.

If you don't have the proper materials you just may be doing your own family planning a la Simpson's.

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-24   1:28:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: redleghunter (#31)

I know.

The issue here is an important philosophic one: the Second Amendment is written in absolute terms, and comes from a time when those absolute terms could be taken absolutely.

But weaponry has developed to the point that we cannot continue to respect the original intent of the Constitution. We cannot continue to leave the right to keep and bear arms uninfringed, because "arms" today includes nukes, mustard gas, nerve gas and other weapons of mass destruction.

A hundred people a year cook off in murder suicides. A handful of murder-suicides brought down the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. With nukes, the same number of murder suicides that day would have taken out 19 American cities.

Adam Lanza walked into a school and shot a bunch of kids. If people had nukes, it would have been the end of a city..

The problem with the Second Amendment today, the REASON that it is under pressure and being abridged, is not because of street crime - that's actually an argument FOR it. The problem is the instability of human beings and their propensity to cook off and kill a lot of people.

The gun rights advocates waves their hands and intone platitudes such as "Those who would sell their liberty for security deserve neither." That's a nice saying, but the reality is why Trump will be elected. Before Brussels, there were a whole bunch of people screaming about Trump. But with Brussels, everybody was reminded about terrorism in a brutal way, and there is only one candidate who actually MENTIONED Brtussels, specifically, and who speaks of stopping Muslim immigration and aggressively fighting the threat, including using torture. It's very easy to live philosophically - until the bombs start going off again. Philosophy triumphs easily over evils past and evils future, but evils present conquer philosophy. Muslim terrorism will have made Trump the next President, because in the end people will not just sit idly by and die.

And that is the problem with the Second Amendment: as written, it means that no weapon can be regulated. That was fine for 1789. It won't work today. The right must be abridged, but since gun nuts like Hondo - who thinks we have a personal right to nukes - won't let the Constitution be amended we are faced with the practical reality that our Constitution says something we cannot do if we don't want mass casualties every few days. People are too unstable to be permitted to have WMD, or mass effect weapons.

We came to this realization in the era of the machine gun, and we placed restrictions on firearms then. Nobody ever considered that people had the right to nukes or bioweps - that's insane.

Of course, once we infringed people's right to keep and bear automatic weapons, we were in fact breaking the Constitution. We were infringing people's right to keep and bear arms.

We have to. As with slavery in the 1860s, the Constitution as written with regards to weapons is not workable. It becomes a suicide pact. We HAVE TO violate its words, because if we don't, we will have mass casualties all the time. We already hAVE mass casualties all the time, many every year, with just SEMI-automatic weapons.

Reality is that we have to regulate arms possession and we do. Human beings are unstable and they commit murder-suicides, often. That will not change. So you have to limit the damage such people can do. One way you do that is by halting Muslim immigration. A second way is by restricting the power of weapons individuals can have. A third way is by refusing to let people who are already known to be unstable possess weapons. And those second two ways are both in direct violation of the clear language of the 2nd Amendment.

So, then you end up with the very problem I've been addressing: Constitutional purism versus common sense necessity. I use the personal nuke example because denying people the right to possess those ALSO violates the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment DOES pretty plainly protect the right to keep and bear nukes. And the Supreme Court was correct in the Dred Scott decision: slaves were indeed property, under the Constitution, and the states could not interfere with the property rights of men.

The problem is that the Constitution as written could not be respected regarding slavery, and it could not be amended. So it had to be violated. And the same is true when it comes to guns. Individuals cannot possess WMD. Period. The existential threat of that overrides the law. The Constitution says they can, and the gun nuts, like the slave lobby back then, is far to strong to ever amend the Constitution through the legal process.

So we are faced with the ugly truth that our Constitution, respected as written, cannot work. It becomes a suicide pact. We MUST violate it to survive. And we have. In 1860, the secessionists were right, constitutionally speaking. The Constitution does not say that states can't secede, and the Southern states were threatened by Lincoln and the North's politics regarding slavery. They seceded to protect it.

The Constitution vaguely empowers the President to fight rebellion, but it certainly didn't empower him to suspend habeas corpus, or to emancipate slaves. And yet he had to do those things or the country would have come apart permanently, and the slaves would never have been freed. So Lincoln violated the Constitution in order to save the country.

And likewise today, in the age of WMD. We have to violate the Constitution to enforce unconstitutional laws that prevent individuals from acquiring WMDs. There can be no question that those laws DO violate the direct language of the 2nd Amendment, because they do. But we cannot allow people to have their full 2nd Amendment rights anymore, because weapons are too powerful and we'll lose cities to suicides. We know that instinctively, so we've been violating the Constitution for a long time.

We have no choice in this.

My suggestion is simple. People who want to continue to exercise the right to have guns have to take the lead on amending the Constitution to allow for the reasonable regulation of weapons. Lines should be drawn legally, or else the whole Constitution falls into ruin, as it is.

We have to break the 2nd Amendment, and if we can break the 2md routinely, why not the 1st, or the 4th, or the rules of how the branches operate? There is no life-or-death reason to violate the OTHER provisions of the Constution, but we HAVE TO violate the 2nd, as written.

So we need to rewrite the 2nd. Amend it to make it clear that people can have guns, and set the parameters under which they can. Gun advocates need to take the lead, because if they don't, then people who think that nobody should have any guns will certainly press forward and legislate that. And since we're already violating the 2nd - because we have to in regards to WMD and machine guns - what's one more violation.

It's the gun advocates who need to be proactive and reasonable, and craft a reasonable constitutional provision for the 21st Century. But guys like Hondo refuse to get that. They insist on the full unlimited right guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment: he claims his right to have a nuke. He stands pat on the language as written. By standing there, he may very well lose his right to have a gun at all.

The 2nd Amendment is unworkable. We cannot respect it as written, because we cannot permit people to have WMD and modern mass-area-effect weapons. The line has to be drawn and it is drawn.

Flip back to the Civil War example. The Southerners had to come up with a way to phase out slavery. They had to come up with it fast, and they had to lead the process and implement it. Instead, they stood fast on their constitutional rights, seceded to protect their slave culture, wrote slavery into their founding documents, fought to the death over it, were utterly destroyed and died, and preserved nothing. And were under federal occupation for a decade.

That's how things play out when people try to stand on rights that are unreasonable. They never keep the rights. They lose everything instead.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-24   7:22:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#33. To: Vicomte13 (#32)

But weaponry has developed to the point that we cannot continue to respect the original intent of the Constitution. We cannot continue to leave the right to keep and bear arms uninfringed, because "arms" today includes nukes, mustard gas, nerve gas and other weapons of mass destruction.

Chemical weapons would be a treaty issue. The US unilaterally decommissioned all its chemical weapons stocks under Reagan-Bush 1 timeframe. So by US treaty adherence not even the military can have such weapons now. Only exception is the USANCA program which allows weaponized agents for research on how to protect our troops.

Nuclear Weapons? I know kind of silly, but if a private citizen or group of citizens wanted nukes, they would be in violation of several Non-Proliferation Nuclear treaties the US signed with allies and adversaries.

Now to finish your comments...:)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-24 10:53:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Vicomte13 (#32) (Edited)

The real problem with bearing arms has always been the insane opponents of the 2nd. -- They feel they have an inate power to prohibit their peers from enjoying life, liberty, and property.

In a way, they're as fanatical as Muslims.

Ok. Now we're getting somewhere. You've acknowledged that there is a line drawing exercise to be done, that the "right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" does not mean unlimited right to anything that is called an arm. -- Nuclear weapons are arms, and you've acknowledged that the 2nd Amendment doesn't guarantee anybody's right to own one.

No, I've acknowledged that reasonable constitutionally based regulations can be written to solve the problem of possessing nuclear materials and/or other such weapons.

It's nice to see you backing off from your more fanatical opinions. Keep up the good work.

My suggestion is simple. People who want to continue to exercise the right to have guns have to take the lead on amending the Constitution to allow for the reasonable regulation of weapons.

Our constitution doesn't need amending, -- it needs govt officials to honor their oaths, to protect/defend, - and to write/enforce ONLY reasonable, constitutionally based regulations.

We must vote out the political fanatics who insist that they have the power to prohibit damn near anything, or any behavior..

tpaine  posted on  2016-03-24 11:16:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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