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Title: Is Donald Trump an extremeist?
Source: News. Com.au
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Published: Mar 22, 2016
Author: paraclete
Post Date: 2016-03-22 18:25:21 by paraclete
Keywords: None
Views: 3134
Comments: 33

In the light of comments made by Trump following the Brussels attacks you have to ask whether Trump is an extremist too, just as dangeruous as those he rails against.

DONALD Trump reacted to the explosions that rocked Brussels on Tuesday by describing the it as a “disaster city” and warning that “this is just the beginning”.

Speaking on NBC’s TODAY, Trump said: “Belgium is no longer Belgium. Belgium is not the Belgium you and I knew from 20 years ago, which was one of the most beautiful and safest cities in the world.

“Belgium is a horror show right now. Terrible things are happening. People are leaving. People are afraid. This all happened because, frankly, there’s no assimilation.”

Belgium is a country, not a city, but we’ll put that aside. Trump wasted no time in saying the terror attacks were more evidence that governments needed to crack down on extremists with any means possible — even using waterboarding — and that immigration policies had failed.

“I would close up our borders,” he told Fox News.

“We are taking in people without real documentation. We don’t know where they’re from or who they are.

“We have to be very, very vigilant with who we let into this country,” Trump continued. “Brussels is a great example. Brussels was an absolutely crime-free city, one of the most beautiful cities in the world. And now you look at it and it’s just a disaster.”

Trump, who has made immigration and security issues central to his 2016 presidential bid,reiterated his call for the US to bring back waterboarding to interrogate suspected terrorists.

“I would use waterboarding,” he said on ABC’s Good Morning America.

“And I would try to expand the laws to go beyond waterboarding.”

He hasn't made the same remarks in regard to attacks in Turkey, does he believe a little muslim on muslim violence is ok but when it migrates it must be met with extreme force? What does this tell you about the man who would be king?

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He hasn't made the same remarks in regard to attacks in Turkey, does he believe a little muslim on muslim violence is ok but when it migrates it must be met with extreme force? What does this tell you about the man who would be king?

That he is right on this one.

The reality is that it is up to the so-called "rational, moderate" Muslims to take care of the fanatics within their ranks. Take a page from U.S. history, it wasn't the blacks or Jews that caged the KKK, it was white American Christians who rejected those maniacs, slapped them down, exposed them and muzzled them. It's time for the so-called peaceful, moderate Muslim to do the same with their fanatic brethren.

With over 1 billion of these so-called moderate, peaceful, open minded Muslims around the globe you think they would have done something about it by now. But au contraire, this isn't happening. Instead of rooting out the disease the so- called moderate Muslim community provides their terrorists with cover and shelter and hides them from the authorities. Gee, I wonder what gives with these so-called moderate Muslims. They must really be the silent majority, the invisible majority - the non-existent majority.

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-22   19:44:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SOSO (#3) (Edited)

Take a page from U.S. history, it wasn't the blacks or Jews that caged the KKK, it was white American Christians who rejected those maniacs, slapped them down, exposed them and muzzled them.

Not true. It was mostly Jewish lawyers working with communist politicians. They took down the KKK by infiltrating FBI informers whose mission it was to take control of the various chapters (or whatever you call them),and to start random murders of innocent blacks. The FBI even supplied the dynamite.

ANYBODY that thinks it was white Christians that bombed black Christian churches in the south in the 1950's knows nothing about the south of the 1950's. In fact,the church bombings and random murders were what killed the political power of the KKK because they horrified the very people the KKK needed to support them to remain a power. You have to be an idiot to think this "just happened".

The Dims never cared about the KKK prior to the 30's because at least 99 percent of the KKK members and leadership were registered Dims,and they controlled the Dim Party in the south. What happened was Jews whose roots were in Communism that came from eastern Europe,including Soviet agents from the USSR,infiltrated the Dim Party in the 1930's,and pretty much controlled the FDR administration. The KKK were VERY rabid about their hatred for "Gawdless Communism and foreign agents taking over our country",and since they were THE power behind the Dim Thrones in the south and the south was building up both population and manufacturing due to WW-2,the Dims and their Jewish/Communist masters rightfully saw the KKK as a threat to their power. Suddenly their lock on the northeast and DC wasn't enough to protect them and their positions,so they had to take out the Klan to protect themselves.

That's when MLK Jr suddenly popped up from out of no where fully funded and with press agents following him around,and that's when the church bombings and similar atrocities started happening.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-24   7:35:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#17)

Not true. It was mostly Jewish lawyers working with communist politicians.

You need to rethink this. No law enforcement would have, could have been effective if the overwhelming majority of the white community supported the KKK, or even just tolerated the KKK. It was white America that rejected the Klan and supported its demise. Among other things it manifested in the voting booth.

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-24   10:13:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SOSO (#22)

You need to rethink this. No law enforcement would have, could have been effective if the overwhelming majority of the white community supported the KKK, or even just tolerated the KKK.

The Feebs killed white support for the klan by bombing a couple of churches and murdering children. The fact that these churches and children were black didn't make any difference at all to most white southerners. The KKK prior to being infiltrated by the FBI and their henchmen was a respected outfit because their focus was mainly on maintaining the peace and protecting people. After Mr.Lincoln's war,white southerners had no voice and no legal protection because the state legislatures,the court systems,and the sheriff's offices were all flooded with yankee appointees. Many of whom were some of the biggest crooks that ever walked,and almost all of them hated white southerners. They did such charming things as decide all back taxes were due this week that had been delayed while the war was going because the men were away fighting the war and there was no money to pay them. A few days later a notice would be posted on the court house door about land to be auctioned that day,and the only bidder would be the sheriff,his brother,a judge,etc,etc,etc. They were buying up land at a penny on the dollar through crooked courts.

The KKK stopped a lot of that once organized because they would simply take the sheriff or the head of the county tax department out of their houses and hang them if a good talking to didn't get their attention. Brutal,but pretty damn effective.

The KKK was still very active in the 20's and 30's,protecting people like women and children that had no other protection. Back then there were no laws against child labor,keeping a child from going to school,or even beating or prostituting a child.

My mother and her sister were put in the home of a Civil War veteran after their parents died during the flu epidemic of 1918. My mother was 8,and her sister was 6. There was no such thing as child services back then,and in most cities the children would just be left to do for themselves and live on the street. In rural areas like this,the KKK was the shadow government,and they had and enforced their own laws. They stepped in and put my mother and her sister in a house with a 1-legged Civil War vet that was obviously elderly,and the deal was they would cook and clean for him and provide him with company,and in return he was to feed and clothe them,and send them to school.

The local grocer noticed that the old man stopped buying enough food suitable to feed two growing young girls,and was spending his money on himself,including gambling and drinking. Someone in the school notified someone in the klan that neither girl was showing up for school anymore. My mother told me one Friday night the Klan showed up on horseback with torches and called the old man out in the yard and "read the law" to him. They told him if they heard any more reports about him mistreating those girls,not feeding them,not buying them clothes,and not sending them to school,that they would come back and tie him to the weeping willow tree that used to stand in the yard,and beat him with a horsewhip until they were tired or until he died,whichever came first. And they were NOT playing.

I know this to be true because my mother told it to me.

Since the Klan had no courts and had no jails,this was the only method they had to enforce their laws,and you can bet your ass she and her sister were treated well right up to the time the old man died a natural death and they moved somewhere else to live.

You could have enough money to hire all the lawyers in the world,and you could bribe all the judges in the world,but there was no bribing and no appeal from the Klan verdicts. They would give you one warning like they did that old man,and if he hadn't listened,they would have came back and horsewhipped him almost to death. If they had to come back a third time,they would just hang him and been done with it.

Those were the rules,everybody knew them,and you had to be a total damn fool to ignore them because there was no appeal and they didn't listen to excuses. If you lived your life in such a way that you were no threat to anyone else,regardless of your color,you were good to go. If you stepped out of line,regardless of your color,you paid the price. If you paid the price once and were prone to screw up again,your only option was to move somewhere else to live,because you were already marked as a troublemaker where you were and were not likely to receive any mercy at all.

The KKK was organized to PROTECT WHITES WHO HAD NO LEGAL PROTECTION DURING RECONSTRUCTION,NOT to terrify or punish blacks. If you check out the history of the era,you would find that Nathan Bedford Forrest had many black supporters,and they were welcome at his meetings. In fact blacks have very little to worry about from the Klan unless they were violent criminals because the Klan was focused on protecting whites against the new government.

BTW,the only recorded lynching of a black man in this area I have ever heard of happened during Reconstruction,when the local sheriff's usually refused to arrest blacks that committed crimes against whites. A black man raped and murdered a 8 year old white girl. He was caught while walking in the vicinity of her body,and he had the groceries she had just bought from a local store with him when stopped. He was hanged from the nearest tree,and everybody went home and left him there to rot. The local sheriff cut him down the next day,but nobody he could find would admit to knowing anything about it.

To this very day you can NOT get away with the crap in rural areas that you can get away with in the big cities. If you have a habit of going crazy on people in rural areas,somebody will just kill your ass and be done with you if the courts can't stop you. If the sheriffs,deputies,and the courts can't calm you down,your neighbors can. And will.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-24   15:14:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: sneakypete (#23)

So in your view anarchy supplants government, just demonstrates the bankruptcy of your form of government where too much is left to local authority. The KKK or any group like it is no substitute for good governance and should not be espoused

paraclete  posted on  2016-03-24 18:31:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#23)

The KKK was organized to PROTECT WHITES WHO HAD NO LEGAL PROTECTION DURING RECONSTRUCTION

Absolutely true.

If you look at what happened after the civil war, there were many woefully incompetent and corrupt black officials installed to run the South. It was obviously an attempt by Yankee officials to punish the South. Eventually the North got bored with their campaign, and just abandoned it for other quests. This probably lead to to Hayes election.

The KKK after that became a rogue organization.

I've always said the easiest way to end the Civil War was for Northern States to pay Southern States a modest fee for the slaves, and then release them in northern cities among people who really, really loved them ( is a sarcasm tag necessary?).

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-03-24 20:08:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#23)

I don't doubt what your mother told you. But her view was not that of the big picture.

"This early Klan gradually faded away as Southern conservatives in time implemented a web of segregationist laws.

The year 1915 saw a new Klan emerge to take aim not only against blacks but also against Roman Catholics, whom it suspected of anti-US activities, as well as new immigrants and anyone it construed as an affront to moral order.

By the early 1920s, the Klan had attracted at least two million to its ranks. In August 1925, 40,000 Klan members marched outside the White House. Influential politicians were among its members.

Infighting and schisms rocked the movement until it had all but disappeared by the late 1930s.

By 1945, a new Klan had developed with a presence mainly in some Southern states. The 1960s civil rights era energised its protest activities.

But the group's violent stands clashed with mainstream US opinion and helped marginalise the Klan.

In 1963, four little girls were killed in a bomb blast at an Alabama church, and in 1964, three young civil rights activists were killed in Mississippi."

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