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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Anti-Trump “Conservatives” Release Statement After Meeting to Dump Trump – Want to Unite Republicans
Source: gateway pundt
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Published: Mar 17, 2016
Author: HOFT
Post Date: 2016-03-17 16:52:53 by calcon
Keywords: None
Views: 16360
Comments: 94

op anti-Trump Republicans will meet in Washington DC on Thursday on how to stop GOP front-runner Donald Trump from winning the nomination. The group was also planning a third party run if Trump wins.

The meeting was organized by RedState founder Erick Erickson who has vowed to never vote for Trump – even if it means a Hillary Clinton presidency. dump trump crowd

The anti-Trump group released a statement this afternoon.

Here is the statement agreed to by the conservatives who met this morning to stop Trump: https://t.co/klsTcIiPOf

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) March 17, 2016

Erick Erickson’s website released this statement today to stop Trump.

The group called “for a unity ticket that unites the Republican Party.” …Except, of course, for the seven million Trump voters. They can go to hell.

The cowards did not have enough courage to release the attendees at the meeting.

This morning I participated in a meeting of grassroots conservative activists from around the country who are committed to opposing Donald Trump. We have agreed to release the statement below:

We are a group of grassroots conservative activists from all over the country and from various backgrounds, including supporters of many of the other campaigns. We are committed to ensuring a real conservative candidate is elected. We believe that neither Hillary Clinton nor Donald Trump, a Hillary Clinton donor, is that person.

We believe that the issue of Donald Trump is greater than an issue of party. It is an issue of morals and character that all Americans, not just those of us in the conservative movement, must confront.

We call for a unity ticket that unites the Republican Party. If that unity ticket is unable to get 1,237 delegates prior to the convention, we recognize that it took Abraham Lincoln three ballots at the Republican convention in 1860 to become the party’s nominee and if it is good enough for Lincoln, that process should be good enough for all the candidates without threats of riots.

We encourage all former Republican candidates not currently supporting Trump to unite against him and encourage all candidates to hold their delegates on the first ballot.

Lastly, we intend to keep our options open as to other avenues to oppose Donald Trump. Our multiple decades of work in the conservative movement for free markets, limited government, national defense, religious liberty, life, and marriage are about ideas, not necessarily parties.

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#5. To: calcon (#0)

We want to unite Republicans too, and we want to win, to beat Hillary, to save the Supreme Court, to get jobs back in America, to get the economy on track.

Trump will do that. The other Republicans cannot. That's why Trump is leading: the People have a lot of sense.

So come on, Republicans, get in line with Donald and let's go win.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-17   20:36:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13, calcon (#5)

The other Republicans cannot.

BS. Cruz would do every bit as well a Trump, probably better.

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-17   20:42:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: SOSO (#9)

No he wouldn't. There are millions of us who will vote for Trump that won't vote for Cruz.

Trump has recreated the Reagan Democrat: the nationalist, populist working class voter.

Those voters will not vote for Cruz. They've come out for Trump. They'll elect Trump. If the party pulls shenanigans to deprive Trump of the nomination, they won't come out for Cruz or Kasich. They'll stay home or vote Hillary in disgust.

You've got two choices: Hillary or Trump.

Cruz is a dead letter.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-17   20:55:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

No he wouldn't. There are millions of us who will vote for Trump that won't vote for Cruz.

You're all over the map. You said the other day you liked Cruz and he should be VP.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-20   11:11:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#37)

You're all over the map. You said the other day you liked Cruz and he should be VP.

The fact that I, personally, like Cruz does not mean that a country that is mostly not conservative Republican will vote for a guy whose life is funded by Goldman Sachs, and whose version of conservative Republicanism is the strictest, truest blue.

The Trump voters have not signed onto the conservative Republican movement. They believe in Trump's controlled border, regulated trade message. Huge numbers of people screwed by open borders and bad trade agreements are voting for the only candidate in either party who says to build a real wall, now, and deport illegals, and who is not a free-trader.

Cruz is a free-trader, completely opposed to Trump on trade.

Cruz opposes Trump on halting Muslim immigration.

And Cruz is an Israel firster. Trump's view is that the US should be an even-handed honest broker of a peace agreement between Israel and a Palestinian State.

None of that is Cruz.

Trump's policy offerings are unique, which is why he is running away with the election. Romney's 47% want that.

I like Cruz because he stands for his principles in a way that nobody else in politics does. I like him because Republicans hate him, and I hate Republicans.

But I don't like a lot of Cruz's policies. I see Cruz on the ticket as the opportunity for the hard-core conservatives to reconcile in their own minds to vote for Trump, same as many liberal Republicans reconciled themselves to voting for Reagan because HW Bush was on the ticket.

NEITHER party represents me. Trump represents me. He is a nationalist. So am I. He does not believe that the US should favor Israel, but should even handedly impose a solution that gets us out of the business of perpetually policing the Middle East. Just like me.

Trump thinks we should be friends with Russia, and step away from engaging in a new Cold War. So do I.

Trump thinks that everybody should have health insurance, and that those who can't afford it should have it provided through some sort of government program or subsidy. So do I.

Trump is opposed to free trade, and thinks that our trade policy should favor Americans, and in particular should favor full EMPLOYMENT in the US. So do I.

Trump does not think that companies have the RIGHT to have access to the American market. The American market belongs to the American voters, not to whomever wants to trade here. Trump thinks that if there is a US company, and then another US company that moves outside of the US to not have to pay its taxes here, that the company that moves out should not be able to simply sell its good back into the American market that it abandoned for cheap labor and taxes. That that company's goods should be hit at the border with taxes that claw back whatever advantages they gained by screwing over America to benefit somewhere else. I agree.

Trump doesn't think that we should permit imbalanced trade with China and elsewhere any longer. It leaves millions and millions of Americans unemployed and with declining standards of living while empowering China, and adversary. I agree with Trump.

Free traders like Cruz and the whole Republican (and the whole Democrat) Establishment scream that this is stupid and invoke Smoot-Hawley. It's not Smoot-Hawley, it's not stupid, but it is a showdown between two fundamentally incompatible economic beliefs. We've tried the Republican/Democrat way for 30 years. It has failed the bottom half of America. We're going to revoke it now and go the other way. That's what Trump offers. I agree.

Cruz is violently opposed to even-handedness on Israel. He wants to expand the Cold War with Russia. He believes in free trade. And he does not agree that we should be suspending Muslim immigration, another unique and allegedly "bigoted" Trump postion.

Cruz is fundamentally wrong on all of these things and would make a terrible President BECAUSE he is wrong on all of these things.

But ALL the Republicans, except Trump, are wrong on all of these things, and Cruz is the most honest of them, and Cruz is better on immigration than the rest of the Republicans.

And the party is divided. Cruz may be able to bring in conservsative voters who won't otherwise vote for Trump. They hate Trump, but they like Cruz.

Somebody has to be thrown a bone to try to reunite the party. The question is, do you throw the hard right a bone, with Cruz, or do you throw the Establishment a bone, with Kasich.

There is merit to both. Standing alone, though, Cruz is not an acceptable Presidential candidate for me. Neither is Kasich or any other Republican. I hate Republicans. I like Trump BECAUSE his policies are NOT traditional Republican fare. HE, ALONE, is focused on the RIGHT answers to a host of issues. That's why he's so popular.

As nominee, he has to defeat Hillary, and that means trying to gain the support of one or the other wing of the party that he alienates. Cruz is one choice - I like Cruz. Kasich is the other. I like him.

I like them as men, as people, as politicians. I can't accept either of their POLICIES, because they're both wrong about just about everything. But as second banana to Trump, they are acceptable, mainly because I think that is likely to cause their voters to vote for Trump.

I see Trump as engineering a hostile takeover of the GOP in the interest of the things that I believe in, and in the interest of the 47%. To win the general election, Trump needs either the hard right Republicans to come over to him, or the Establishment. Either is possible. That boils down to Cruz or Kasich. I know that. So I'm happy with Cruz or Kasich as Veep. Only as Veep.

Cruz's ROLE as VP is to bring his voters home to the GOP to vote for Trump, not to set policies. The President sets policies. The VP waits around for the President to sneeze.

I can accept Cruz in that role, or Kasich, or Christie. Or Rubio for that matter. Not Jeb Bush. Not Romney.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-20   16:07:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Vicomte13 (#48)

And Cruz is an Israel firster.

That is just dumb.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-20   16:12:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: A K A Stone (#52)

That is just dumb.

Cruz went into a meeting of Eastern Orthodox Arab Christians - people who have been brutalized all over the Middle East. Those people, from the front right there, know that radical Islam is terrible. They ALSO know that Israel is discriminatory against them, and that Israeli policies have brutalized and radicalized the Muslims in their neighborhood, making it much harder for Christians there, much as the American invasion of Iraq broke the civil peace of that country imposed by Saddam Hussein, and ended up unleashing Islamist terrorism on Christians.

Middle Eastern Christians are not pro-Israel. They're not "destroy Israel" or "destroy America" jihadis either. They are opposed to aggressive wars and policies that result in the persecution of Christians far and wide, and they know a hell of a lot more about the conditions of Christians on the ground in the Middle East, including in Israel, than Ted Cruz ever will.

Cruz came in and didn't give a damn. He insulted them to their face, told them that if they did not support the state of Israel they were part of the problem, not the solution, and he would have nothing to do with them.

Cruz is an Israel firster, and really a loathsome shit when you get right down to it.

But if he's on the ticket, conservatives who love him will vote for Trump/Cruz, and if that's what it takes to win, then fine. It's like Reagan/HW Bush. You ally with whom you need to in order to defeat the worse threat. You and I are both voting for Trump, for different reasons. Doesn't mean that you're signing up for my beliefs or I, yours.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-20   16:20:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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