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Title: Chicago police: We were not consulted in decision to cancel Trump rally
Source: soso
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit ... e-03112016-htmlstory.html#4444
Published: Mar 12, 2016
Author: Melanie Mason
Post Date: 2016-03-12 00:51:44 by SOSO
Keywords: None
Views: 7367
Comments: 35

Chicago police: We were not consulted in decision to cancel Trump rally

Chicago police "were not consulted" and "did not provide an opinion" on Donald Trump's decision to cancel a rally in Chicago, the department said Friday night.

The department made clear to the Trump campaign that "we were confident we had the proper amount of resources dedicated to the event," interim Supt. of Police John Escalante said in a news conference.

Escalante said 200 Chicago police officers were initially deployed to the event and an additional 100 were sent as a precaution upon word that the rally might be canceled.

He said the police were "taken by surprise" at the decision to cancel, particularly since his officers told the campaign they could "could guarantee safe access and exit to Mr. Trump."

Once the rally was called off, Escalante said, "several scuffles had broken out inside the pavilion."

Two people were arrested by the Chicago police, two by University of Illinois at Chicago officers, and one by state police.

Escalante said two officers were injured, including one who was struck in the head with a bottle, suffering a cut that required stitches.

"It's unfortunate that parties on both sides allowed their political views to become confrontational," he said.


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Geez, what in the world is going on in our country? Did Trump just try to pull off a false flag con?

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#1. To: AKA Stone, vicomte13, All (#0)

He said the police were "taken by surprise" at the decision to cancel, particularly since his officers told the campaign they could "could guarantee safe access and exit to Mr. Trump."

What is going on here? Either Trump or the police are lying big time.

SOSO  posted on  2016-03-12   0:52:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SOSO, A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#1)

What is going on here? Either Trump or the police are lying big time.

Absurdist bullshit is going on.

Trump said he consulted with law enforcement. He did not say he consulted with the Chicago PD. Trump's security is provided by the Secret Service.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160311/near-west-side/trump-on-canceled-chicago-rally-our-freedom-of-speech-was-violated

[Trump] "And we made a decision, even though our freedom of speech was violated totally. We made a decision not to go forward. I don't want to see anyone get hurt. You would have had some people possibly getting hurt or beyond. So I made the decision, in conjunction with law enforcement."

In a statement, Chicago Police said: "Shortly before 6:30 pm, the Chicago Police Department was notified by officials that the Trump campaign had cancelled their scheduled event. We are continuing to work with our partners in the United States Secret Service and the University of Illinois at Chicago Police to protect people's First Amendment rights and ensure everyone is able to disperse the area safely."

nolu chan  posted on  2016-03-12   1:18:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu chan (#10) (Edited)

Trump said he consulted with law enforcement. He did not say he consulted with the Chicago PD. Trump's security is provided by the Secret Service.

More silliness.

Quoting Trump: "I met with law enforcement. I don't want to see any one hurt. ... So I met with law enforcement, and I think we made the wise decision to cancel. Now it's pretty well broken up and no major problems.

No one calls the SS "law enforcement" other than currency counterfeiters.

I think Trump chickened out and is trying to blame the cops for his own cowardice.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-12   3:51:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#11)

When you lie (which is constantly), you lie big.

Let me Google that for you

Roscoe  posted on  2016-03-12   4:39:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Roscoe (#12)

Let me Google that for you

Lame attempt to distract from your hero running away with his tail between his legs.

He's real big on roughing up lone black protesters but a ginormous pussy when it comes to a determined crowd of protesters who can stick up for themselves.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-12   6:18:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#13)

You're glad that a crowd of punks was able to shut down a Republican rally by threatening violence and roughing up the Republicans who attend.

You hate Trump so much you've abandoned reason.

There have been riots in Chicago before over political issues. Trump, wisely, decided not to go in and incite one.

Chicago is a thoroughly corrupt city and you know it - Hello - OBAMA - RAHM EMMANUEL - you know this too.

You've become deranged by Trump, and you sound like Democrats who went sideways over Bush.

Stop and think for a minute.

You've gotten yourself so worked up, so COMMITTED to the idea of stopping Donald Trump, that you're HAPPY when punks stage a quasi-riot and rough up your fellow Republicans. Anything that stops Trump is good, by your eyes.

And that's nuts.

You've drawn lines about Trump and taken stands against him, and now you're so committed to it that you're literally willing to throw Illiinois Republicans to a ravening mob, and ridicule Trump for not having arrived and knowingly touched off a riot.

Think about what you're doing, and pull back from the ledge you've put yourself on.

Something you don't like is about to happen. Donald Trump is going to win your party's nomination and be the standard bearer. You sound more deranged than me now. Before Trump, I hated the Republicans so much that I wanted to see them electorally beaten. But you hate Trump so bad that you actually want to see Republicans PHYSICALLY beaten, by black and immigrant mobs in Chicago - ANYTHING that hurts Trump supporters is ok by you.

And anything that Trump does is wrong. If he walks into the trap and a riot ensues, as has happened in Chicago more than once, it's his fault for complete lack of prudence. If he decides NOT to spark a riot, he's a sissy.

Listen to yourself! You actually sound more deranged than I do. Is that what you want? Especially given that you're not going actually BEAT Trump by behaving that way anyway?

I think you want to remain the thoughtful type, the mechanic who understands campaigns, rallies, "how things work". If you really want to get into brass-knuckle mob politics then here's the truth: blacks and Hispanics are a lot more aggressive, a lot more violent, and a lot more willing to use mob action to beat down white Republicans than the reverse. So if you support this sort of thing just to defeat Trump, remember that you yourself and whoever YOU support can also be beaten to a bloody pulp by mobs of angry black protestors, and the Black Panthers can intimidate YOU just as easily as they intimidated Trump supporters. AND THEY WILL if you give them the victory.

I myself think that what happened in Chicago here ought to cause people like you to say "Wait a damn minute! I don't like Trump, but I'm not going to have crowds of black and illegal punks determining who can speak in American cities. I'd rather have Trump than see THOSE guys win through mob rule!" And change your mind.

Come off the ledge of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's unseemly. "Anybody But Trump" is going to fail. He will be the nominee. "ANYBODY" but Trump means "Hillary Clinton instead of Trump!" It means "Bernie Sanders instead of Trump!" It means "Joe Biden, not Trump!" And it means "Al Sharpton and his tactics, if that will stop Trump".

And if you hate Trump THAT bad, you have taken leave of reason.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-12   9:07:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Vicomte13 (#19)

You've become deranged by Trump, and you sound like Democrats who went sideways over Bush.

The same is far more true of you, falling over yourself in your first man-crush on a Republican. It's embarrassing to watch.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-12   9:17:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TooConservative (#20)

The same is far more true of you, falling over yourself in your first man-crush on a Republican. It's embarrassing to watch.

Perhaps. But I never pretend to be objective, or that objectivity is even achievable by human beings. I don't believe that it is. I believe in decision by emotion, and I believe that it is emotions - love, hate, pride, worship, fear, love again, compassion - these are the things that make human life human and worth living.

I never pretend to be a clinical observer, other than when observing how the ball will fall through a machine, given physics or the state of the law.

But you do think of yourself as objective, as fact-based, as not driven by emotions.

So, it's not a surprise, nor something that troubles me, that I am caught up in the great enthusiasm for somebody I like as a leader. Why not?

But you think of such views themselves as being the views of the mob, uneducation, emotional, based on passion not reason.

I hate, and I love, I won't go out and fight and kill for a paycheck, but I will for a cause - if I believe in it. But if I'm fighting and killing and the cause betrays me, I am the sort to angrily turn the guns on my own offiers and kill them as traitors. I am passionate and committed, and if I'm going to kill, then the cause has to be right. If my own "side" starts doing wrong things, I'll kill them too without much compunction.

When Calley went and machine gunned villagers at My Lai, I would have been the guy who protected them with the helicopter - except that I would have opened fire on Calley and blown his head off, not simply kept him away.

That's me. I've never been anything but that, and never pretended to be. I don't join causes unless I beieve in them, but once I do believe and do join, I do so with passion.

That's not you, and you've never wanted to by anything like that. You view that as atavistic, animalistic, mob passion - intellectually inferior and dangerous.

But you're so mad at Trump that you're ready to get into the mud and wrestle with the pig, to become me.

Of course I understand that: your objectivity was merely because nothing REALLY moved you before. You're human, now you're moved, so now you're acting like people OUGHT to act, with passion, with fury.

Mobs create nations.

I'm just pointing out to you that you are becoming to me.

YOU might be embarrassed by my "man crush" on Trump, and think I should be embarrassed, but of course I'm not embarrassed. "Man-crushes" don't embarrass me. Neither does passion for women. Or passion for anything. Loves and hates, lusts and fire and earth and wind. My God is a God of love and of wrath, not an accountant.

It's interesting to see YOU behaving this way. I guess Trump brings out the human male in you. Are you SURE you want to leave the safe confines of the accountant's library? You've made fun of us out here so long for being "the mob", you really SURE you want to join a mob? If you are, then I'd suggest you use your brain and not join the German Army, not hoist the Confederate flag, not cry Banzai and charge the Marines. Take it from a Frenchman: it's best to be in the mob that wins. And the mob that opposes Trump ain't gonna be the one that wins this time.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-12   12:14:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vicomte13 (#25)

And the mob that opposes Trump ain't gonna be the one that wins this time.

HAHAHAHA. What a pity that your post is reduced to 'hope an change.' You stated no principles at all other than your half-witted ideas about emotion.

You have no CLUE to what is happening.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-03-12   12:23:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeroo (#26) (Edited)

You have no CLUE to what is happening.

Why would I have no clue? I'm 52 years old. Saw the Detroit riots first hand. Was in California during the LA riots. Seen a lot, heard a lot, know a lot.

What sort of special double-secret knowledge and insight do you think YOU have that the rest of us don't?

You don't have any.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-12   23:06:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#35. To: Vicomte13 (#34)

What sort of special double-secret knowledge and insight do you think YOU have that the rest of us don't?

I am not referring to a few riots or protests here or there. The entire world is upheaval and because of foreign intervention in other nation's affairs by the US government, the nation has been reduced to being tax slaves paying off otherwise unnecessary federal debt.

America will never eliminate these debts, either. And those same debts reduce federal domestic expenditures, no matter what a presidential candidate may talk about.

All of these post WW2 treaties can not be broken. So the debts shall rise for foreign intrigue and unnecessary meddling.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-03-13 13:07:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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