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Title: Trump Agrees With Democrats on High-Speed Trains
Source: TIME
URL Source: http://time.com/4247162/donald-trump-trains-infrastructure/
Published: Mar 10, 2016
Author: Haley Sweetland Edwards
Post Date: 2016-03-10 09:07:57 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 12274
Comments: 40

In a freewheeling speech Thursday afternoon, Republican frontrunner Donald Trump stumbled into a riff about how great trains are. It’s sad, he said, that the American rail system is so dilapidated while China’s is now slicker than ever.

“They have trains that go 300 miles per hour,” the populist billionaire exclaimed. “We have trains that go chug … chug … chug.”

The line got a laugh—it’s not often that one sees a presidential candidate imitate Thomas the Tank Engine—but it also underscored one of the most solid planks in the billionaire businessman’s rickety policy platform: to fund and rebuild U.S. infrastructure, including its crumbling railways.

The thing is, that’s usually a Democratic talking point.

President Obama spent the better part of his second term pushing for a $478 billion infrastructure bill to fund roads, bridges, and rail lines. Before that, Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, who at one point practically moonlighted as Amtrak’s spokesman, pushed a new U.S. Department of Transportation initiative awarding $8 billion to states to build new high-speed intercity rail.

“[T]here’s no reason why Europe or China should have the fastest trains when we can build them right here in America,” Obama announced in a 2010 statement.

“By investing in high speed rail, we’re doing so many good things for our country at the same time,” Biden added. We’re creating good construction and manufacturing jobs in the near-term; we’re spurring economic development in the future; we’re making our communities more livable—and we’re doing it all while decreasing America’s environmental impact and increasing America’s ability to compete in the world.”

Trump’s language, six years later, is nearly identical.

“Our airports, bridges, water tunnels, power grids, rail systems—our nation’s entire infrastructure is crumbling, and we aren’t doing anything about it,” he wrote in his 2015 book, Crippled America. He went on to promise that fixing it would spur economic growth.

“These projects put people to work—not just the people doing the work but also the manufacturers, the suppliers, the designers, and, yes, even the lawyers. The Senate Budget Committee estimates that rebuilding America will create 13 million jobs,” he wrote. Which, incidentally, was Obama’s point in 2011, when Congressional Republicans blocked his $60 billion infrastructure jobs bill.

Republicans have generally fought efforts to increase federal spending on principle. That includes vast infrastructure projects, even popular ones. In the hours after the deadly Amtrak derailment in May 2015, for example, the Republican-led House Appropriations Committee voted to slash the rail budget by 20%.

In December, a bipartisan group of lawmakers in the House and Senate joined to pass a less sweeping $305 billion version of the infrastructure package. But both of Trump’s top rivals for the Republican nomination, Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida and Ted Cruz of Texas, voted no on the bill.

In a nod to the fiscal conservative tradition of the Republican Party, Trump has admitted that rebuilding American infrastructure would cost taxpayer dollars. But then waved away the concern with Trumpian bravado.

“On the federal level, this is going to be an expensive investment, no question about that. But in the long run it will more than pay for itself,” he said. “It will stimulate our economy while it is being built and make it a lot easier to do business when it’s done—and it can be done on time and under budget.”


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#5. To: Willie Green (#0)

Amtrak has I believe one line that is actually profitable . The rest of it is Soviet style subsidized transportation. Amtrak’s ridership and revenue has been steadily increasing . 2011 it set a new ridership record with 30.2 million passengers, and $1.9 billion in ticket revenue. But, even though it took additional $1.42 billion from Congress , it still manages to lose $1 billion annually. Trains are a 19th century technology that we are attempting to apply to a 21st century problem.On longer distance trips, air transportation is faster. The car isn’t much slower, is fairly inexpensive (particularly with multiple passengers ), and provides far greater convenience, including door-to- door service and the use of a car when the traveler arrives at the destination. Bus transportation isn't much slower than Amtrak, are cheaper, and aren’t that much less comfortable.

Let the Chinese keep their high speed trains . High speed trains there mean high spead accidents to cover up.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8658959/Anger-in-China-as- bodies-fall-from-carriages-during-train-crash-clean-up.html

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-10   11:13:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tomder55 (#5)

mtrak has I believe one line that is actually profitable .

Amtrak is profitable in the NE Corridor where it owns, upgrades and maintains its own track. On other routes, the freight carriers are reluctant to upgrade their infrastructure to provide safe and competitive passenger service. Those tracks and right-of-ways should be seized by eminent domain so that the rail infrastructure can be upgraded.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-03-10   11:36:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Willie Green (#6)

or the NE corridor and the rest of the stinking enterprise could be privatized . Why should the American taxpayer be footing the bill for rail freight transportation ,or for the travel of passengers to and from the Washington beltway ?

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-10   12:11:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tomder55 (#7)

No... Private ownership of transportation right-of-ways is an unreasonable restriction on Americans' Freedom to Travel. The railways should be publicly owned, just like the roadways, highways, waterways and airways. The private sector can own the vehicles that travel on these right-of-ways, but the railways themselves (the tracks) should be publicly owned, maintained and regulated.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-03-10   12:47:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Willie Green (#8)

That's not the way it's done here . (excluding Amtrak and some municiple systems ) .The tracks and railroad companies are privately owned The goverment gave land grants to the railroads back in the day ,but otherwise stayed out of the business.

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-10   13:15:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: tomder55 (#11)

The goverment gave land grants to the railroads back in the day

No problemo... whatever the Government giveth, the Government can taketh away...
Afterall, it's not as if the private railroads ever paid for the land, so if they don't upgrade the tracks, just condemn them as unsafe for transportation and confiscate them for public use.

Willie Green  posted on  2016-03-10   14:24:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Willie Green, tomder55, Vicomte13 (#15)

No problemo... whatever the Government giveth, the Government can taketh away... Afterall, it's not as if the private railroads ever paid for the land, so if they don't upgrade the tracks, just condemn them as unsafe for transportation and confiscate them for public use.

Yea, we would have been better off without railroads. So being anti-Trump now is to go off into stupid land?

Pericles  posted on  2016-03-11   4:21:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Pericles (#17)

So being anti-Trump now is to go off into stupid land?

Yep.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-03-11   8:15:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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