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Title: Trump on torture: 'We have to beat the savages' (by becoming them)
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CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/06/polit ... onald-trump-torture/index.html
Published: Mar 7, 2016
Author: Jeremy Diamond
Post Date: 2016-03-07 12:22:01 by Hondo68
Keywords: America, land of beheading, home of the slave
Views: 1990
Comments: 14
Story highlights
- Donald Trump vowed Sunday to "strengthen the laws so that we can better compete" with ISIS attacks
- The real estate mogul said he would never instruct the military to break the law but added he wanted to broaden existing laws related to torture
- "I think we've become very weak and ineffective," Trump told CBS News
(CNN)Donald Trump is casting aside any doubt about his position on torture: He's in favor of it because "we have to beat the savages."
Trump vowed on Friday that he would never instruct the military to break the law -- appearing to flip on his previous promise to bring back waterboarding and more severe forms of torture. But on Saturday he said repeatedly, during a rally and a late-night news conference, that he would seek to "broaden" the laws to allow torture, including but not limited to waterboarding.
Trump on waterboarding: 'Nobody knows if it's torture'
And pressed on CBS's "Face the Nation" about his position, Trump vowed to "strengthen the laws so that we can better compete" with ISIS' brutal tactics -- rejecting out of hand the argument that allowing torture would be stooping to ISIS' savagery.
"We have to play the game the way they're playing the game. You're not going to win if we're soft and they're, they have no rules," Trump said in an interview taped Saturday that aired Sunday morning.
Trump also rejected the argument that American hostages could be treated worse by America's enemies if the U.S. engaged in torture, insisting that "they're doing that any way."
"Did somebody tell ISIS, 'Look, we're going to treat your guys well. Will you please do us a favor and treat our guys well?' They don't do that. We're not playing by -- we are playing by rules, but they have no rules. It's very hard to win when that's the case," Trump said, adding that the United States' ban on waterboarding is a sign of weakness.
"I think we've become very weak and ineffective. I think that's why we're not beating ISIS. It's that mentality," Trump said, adding that ISIS "must think we are a little bit on the weak side."
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Katrina Pierson, Trump's spokeswoman for his campaign, told CNN's Alisyn Camerota on Monday that Trump didn't flip his stance on waterboarding, but clarified that Trump is saying, "we cannot continue to play by different sets rules when we have people beheading Christians and selling their children into slavery."
"So he does want to go to the Congress, he does want to go to the (security) council and see how we can better combat terrorism," she said on CNN's New Day. "Because what we're doing now is simply not working."
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"we cannot continue to play by different sets rules when we have people beheading Christians and selling their children into slavery."
Trump wants to behead his enemies, and sell their children into slavery.
If it's good enough for Mohammad and ISIS, it's good enough for The Donald.
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" Trump wants to behead his enemies, and sell their children into slavery. "
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Hondo68, are you running for drama / exaggeration queen?
You and the other Trump Haters Club have to wake up, and realize that war is NOT a parlor room board game!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
There are no Carthaginian terrorists.
President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood
"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#2. To: Stoner (#1)
"We have to play the game the way they're playing the game."
That's a direct quote from Trump. No drama, no exaggeration.
Then his campaign rep added the other statement I quoted earlier, about beheading and selling into slavery. This is Trump's platform that he's running on.
He' plans to keep up with whatever atrocities ISIS commits. He said it himself.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#3. To: hondo68 (#2)
"We have to play the game the way they're playing the game."
That's a direct quote from Trump. No drama, no exaggeration.
And no context.
He said that in the context of seeking to "broaden the laws to allow torture, including but not limited to waterboarding." Trump is running for President, not dictator.
#4. To: misterwhite (#3)
Trump is running for President, not dictator.
You better let him know that, whitey.
#5. To: hondo68 (#2)
" " Trump wants to behead his enemies, and sell their children into slavery. " "
That is a direct quote from YOU, not Trump!
You are lieing and making shit up, dip wad!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
There are no Carthaginian terrorists.
President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood
"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#6. To: hondo68 (#0)
It's pretty damn amusing that the people you have complained about the NWO for years are now coming out about the man who can destroy them.
The "parties are the same", "the parties are the same", you've stated that for years. Why now are you so against the one person who might destroy them?
#7. To: Stoner, Jihadi Donald (#5)
dip wad!
If you don't like Trump "play the game the way they're playing the game" to keep up with ISIS, then don't vote for him!
Calling me names is not going to change the fact that he's a wanabe ISIS clone.
If DJT wants to play the way ISIS is playing, and they're beheading and selling into slavery, then he wants to do the same. Why is this difficult for you to admit?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#8. To: Stoner (#1)
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.Hondo68, are you running for drama / exaggeration queen?
All his drama queen histrionics here has inspired a group of high school students in Maryland to spoof an Abba song.
Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
#9. To: hondo68 (#7)
" Calling me names is not going to change the fact "
The Fact is that you made shit up.
If you want to be taken as intellectually honest, then do not make up quotes, and attribute them to someone else.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
There are no Carthaginian terrorists.
President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood
"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
#10. To: calcon, Jimmy Carter Republicans (#6)
Why now are you so against the one person who might destroy them?
He's a fraud and a well known lifelong progressive Hillary/Mitt Romney clone.
Jimmy Carter knows that Trump is the most malleable to his way of thinking.
Louise Sunshine with Donald Trump, left, and President Jimmy Carter. Sunshine worked for Donald Trump for 15 years starting in the 1970s and rose to become a senior vice president. (Photo Courtesy of Louise Sunshine)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-a-champion-of-women-his-female-employees-think-so/2015/11/23/7eafac80-88da-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec_story.html
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#11. To: hondo68 (#10)
Go Hillary!!!!!!!
#12. To: hondo68 (#0)
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#13. To: hondo68 (#0)
Stupid 8th amendment. Who needs it.
#14. To: hondo68 (#2)
That's a direct quote from Trump. No drama, no exaggeration.
Yes, that is a direct quote. Two kookies for you... good boy!
What lines you cannot read between indicate that Trump is wanting to take a tougher stance with "turrurism", and that means to stop hugging them, holding their, and giving them more rights than average 'Muricans.
Right now our laws are more of a political game that the bad guys can play with to slip through and avoid consequences. We are more likely to let a captured suspect go rather than hold them indefinitely without being able to get the information we would need form them. Torture takes many forms, from waterboarding to stretching tables to Justin Beiber songs (or any if the other selection of annoying Canadian pop-artists).
Maybe he wants to clarify what truly defines torture and what passes for such in today's politically correct world. To me, just reading your comments can sometimes be considered inhumane.
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