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The Establishments war on Donald Trump Title: Debate Disgrace: Fox News Exposed as Pro-Rubio Super PAC Another Fox News debate, another two hours of proof that the “fair and balanced” network is nothing more than a super PAC for Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), who, by the way, had a terrible night. In their naked pursuit of Donald Trump’s scalp, moderators Chris Wallace, Bret Baier, and Megyn Kelly used every cheap trick in the book.None of the other candidates faced dramatic graphics. Trump did. None of the other candidates faced video of past statements.* Trump did. Trump was never asked to attack his rivals. On at least three occasions, Trump’s rivals were invited to attack him.
On a number of occasions, Wallace and Kelly tossed off their roles as moderators to actually debate Trump, in the hopes of tripping him up or cornering him. As bad as the mainstream media has been to Republican presidential candidates over the years, I have never seen anything like this. This is just one of those exchanges. Here Kelly compares Trump to a con man and Bernie Madoff!
There were two unbelievable moments even lower than that. The first came from Kelly, who used leaked reports and unsubstantiated rumors surrounding an off-the-record interview Trump supposedly had with the left-wing New York Times. Apparently, the Times leaked information about the off-the-record interview to the left-wing BuzzFeed, who in turn, without hearing the audio, launched a McCarthy-ite attack against Trump, accusing him of saying one thing to the Times and another to the voters regarding immigration. BuzzFeed then demanded Trump prove he’s not a communist liar. There is nothing more sacred in journalism than an off-the-record situation. This is supposed to be inviolable. To see the New York Times and BuzzFeed behave in this way is one thing. To see Megyn Kelly and Fox News use a sacred off-the-record conversation to launch a relentless McCarthy-ite attack, was beyond disgraceful. Here are the lowlights:
Okay, I made up that last one. This is Fox News going way beyond anything we’ve seen in the past from CNBC’s John Harwood or ABC’s George Stephanopoulos. In the future, any Republican stupid enough to talk to the New York Times, BuzzFeed, or Fox News in an off-the-record capacity, deserves whatever knife he or she gets in the back. Near the end of the debate, Fox News became a parody of itself by airing the last 30 seconds or so of this anti-Trump ad from the John Kasich campaign: —
— After the clip played and everyone had a good laugh at Trump’s expense, this was Wallace’s question to Kasich:
Fox News’s brand and reputation is already in freefall. Thursday night, in service to Marco Rubio and the Republican Establishment, Fox News stooped lower than NBC News or CNN — something many of us never thought possible. *To justify singling Trump out with graphics and videos, Fox News announced at the beginning that the other candidates had faced these in the debate Trump boycotted. Transcript courtesy of The Washington Post. (1 image) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Fox News, what an embarrassment, they should be ashamed of themselves. Their debate coverage was stupid and juvenile. Every candidate but Kasich went for the chum. Trump had an opportunity to shut down everyone by simply stating "I will not dignify their comments." No but he could not control himself and doubled down on the nonsense. Rubio looked ridiculous trying to attack the bully with a hand full of nothing. Biggest loser was Fox who made the first 45 minutes of a Presidential debate about 'he called you x what do you say..." Pathetic losers. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) #2. To: redleghunter (#1) I agree, those narrating would give themselves 30 seconds for comments, then ask a leading question. Even BOR when he interviewed Trump did so in a manner to intimidate him, and show him to be shorter and smaller than Bill. Everyone else was seated and more comfortable. The news is totally controlled, we are living in a matrix that is controlled. My dad told me at least a thousand times during his life the following quote. "Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear." In 2016 that certainly applies.
#3. To: cranky (#0) If Fox does not now fire Megyn Kelly and apologize to Donald Trump and the viewers of the debate, they should be fined and loose their license to broadcast.
How anyone with any honor at all can continue to support Rubio after his part in this lie last night, is beyond me.
Kelly, Rubio and Cruz kept lying over and over again about the BB rating, claiming it to be a D-, yet here is proof that Mr. Trump was telling the truth , showing it to be an A. Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous. #4. To: redleghunter (#1) Fox should be fined. Kelly should be fired. Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous. #5. To: redleghunter (#1) Biggest loser was Fox who made the first 45 minutes of a Presidential debate about 'he called you x what do you say..." Pathetic losers. I don't think I've watched Fox News since E. D. Donahey left the network. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't #6. To: BobCeleste (#3) How anyone with any honor at all can continue to support Rubio after his part in this lie last night, is beyond me. He sure doesn't make it easy for them, Bob. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't #7. To: redleghunter (#1) But the beauty is - they stacked the deck, completely, it was utterly unfair, wrong, they baited the bear, they did everything wrong, they threw the kitchen sink at him, they lied, they cheated, they prevaricated, they made inferences, the "controlled the forum"...AND...THEY...STILL...LOST. Trump went right back at them, yes. And people who were never going to vote for Trump anyway clicked and clucked. But nobody's mind was made up by last night's debate. Trump didn't lose. The entire forum was against him, he went into the colosseum, the lions were set lose, and the victim walked out alive - they were unable to damage him. Trump won. They exhausted their attacks on him, on their battlefield. He blocked, he parried, he used his shield, he swung his mace. And at the end of the fight he was still standing there, unbent, unbowed, unbroken, with the adamant support of his followers. And he got a KEY win last night. Everybody on that stage pledged to back him if he were the nominee. They pledged, in public, on film, to back a guy they've called a "con artist". So after everything, they showed that, in the end, Republican politicians really are bought and paid for men who cannot SURVIVE if they cut their bridges with the GOP, even if DONALD TRUMP is the man in charge of it. Trump demonstrated that he is the toughest son of a bitch in American politics that anybody has ever seen in our lifetime. NOBODY on EITHER SIDE has been subjected to THAT MUCH focused and merciless and belittling attack, for THAT long, and walked out of the arena with his support intact, and with the papers literally UNABLE to crow that he had been defeated. Because spin it all they want, everybody who watched knows that Trump was not defeated last night. They threw everything they had at him yesterday, including Romney. But by the end of the night, all of his opponents publicly admitted they'd back him over a Romney outsider bid - if Trump is the nominee. The Koch brothers said yesterday that they won't be funding a "Stop Trump" bid. And the media did its worse, failed to defeat Trump, and in the process permanently lost a substantial part of their viewer and listener base. Fox lost. Romney lost. Rubio and Cruz and Kasich lost. Trump won. The People won. Reagan never faced anything like this. Sarah Palin is the only won who has. But Sarah was defeated by the media. Trump just faced them down and defeated them.
#8. To: BobCeleste (#4) Fox should be fined. Kelly should be fired. The first 10-15 mins (maybe longer as I shut it off) was about "how do you respond to the insults of the other." That is forming a debate based on the lowest common denominator. Unprofessional, horrible, and frankly embarrassing and stupid. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) #9. To: cranky, FOX News ready for Hillary, *The Two Parties ARE the Same*, Team Romney (#0) (Edited) It was a two hour Hillary commercial from the FOX News team. They stand to benefit from a Hillary presidency, with increased viewership and sponsors. Bret, Meghyn, Cris and the neocon nation are Ready For Hillary! Trump sold out again by reaffirming his commitment to whatever loser the GOPe nominates. The full FAUX News debate (Hillary endorsement).
![]() #10. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter, Hondo68, cranky (#7) The entire forum was against him, he went into the colosseum, the lions were set lose, and the victim walked out alive - they were unable to damage him.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul![]() In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.Paul Craig Roberts#11. To: BobCeleste (#3) If Fox does not now fire Megyn Kelly and apologize to Donald Trump and the viewers of the debate, they should be fined and loose their license to broadcast. Anybody that ever apologizes to that lump of steaming feces should be dragged out into the street and beaten. I can't believe you people are so blind to what a corrupt lying sack of crap he is that you would defend him. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #12. To: sneakypete, BobCeleste, AKA Stone, Vicomte13 (#11) I can't believe you people are so blind to what a corrupt lying sack of crap he is that you would defend him. Hey, they don't mind supporting a corrupt lying sack of crap as long as it is their corrupt lying sack of crap. Just ask any DRat that supported the Slickster and/or Obama if you don't believe me. To all of them on each side it's the getting prize that counts not on how you get it or who you give it to. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #13. To: sneakypete (#11) Anybody that ever apologizes to that lump of steaming feces should be dragged out into the street and beaten. So if they lie about a fact during a debate. They shouldn't apologize? www.bbb.org/new-york-city...ining-programs/the-trump- entrepreneur-initiative-in-new-york-ny-97075 Second point Oscar. You said "lump of steaming feces", all I could think of was you describing your lunch.
#14. To: SOSO (#12) Hey, they don't mind supporting a corrupt lying sack of crap as long as it is their corrupt lying sack of crap. How is the Donald corrupt?
#15. To: Deckard (#10) Good picture, I can see both trump and the gladiator shouting "BRING IT BITCHES"
#16. To: BobCeleste (#3) Kelly, Rubio and Cruz kept lying over and over again about the BB rating, claiming it to be a D-, yet here is proof that Mr. Trump was telling the truth , showing it to be an A. The post-debate "fact-checkers" also deserve dishonorable mention.
Trump University Trump published the actual BBB report with the "A" rating in 2011. Politifact cites only several unidentified published reports and archived Web pages.
Megyn Kelly of Fox News did a fine job of fact checking Trump in real time on these claims — Trump University actually earned a D- from BBB before it was shut down — but if you want to learn more, read our comprehensive report on the troubled program.
#17. To: A K A Stone (#14) Hey, they don't mind supporting a corrupt lying sack of crap as long as it is their corrupt lying sack of crap. Seriously? have you been living in a cave? I will not waste my time answer this silly question. Google the answer. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #18. To: SOSO (#17) Hey, they don't mind supporting a corrupt lying sack of crap as long as it is their corrupt lying sack of crap. How is the Donald corrupt? So don't even know. You just parrot establishment talking points. Chirp Chirp.
#19. To: A K A Stone, nolu chan, SOSO (#18) Chirp Chirp. Your Canary Club, sheeple choices... ![]() #20. To: A K A Stone (#18)
Wow, what a totally predictable BS response. As if no-one doesn';t know that your BS was nothing more than an attempt at deflection. There is more than ample discussion and evidence support the reality of Trump's conning and corruption is both his business and personal dealings. I am not a Trump supporter that is easily conned or duped by such a meaningless ploy. Find someone else to play your little game. Don't waste your time on this stupid ploy. But it is your time to waste so respond to this. "He Has Ties To Organized Crime His Partner Was Arrested For Facilitating Prostitution Another Partner Is A Convicted Drug Trafficker He Has A Problem With Women He Was Sued For Racial Discrimination" Meow away as you chase your tail. Then when you are done start chasing this one. "Rand Paul: This is what’s wrong. Trump bribes all of us. He even bribes Hillary Clinton. That’s what he does, he bribes us. Trump: Yes, and I’ve bribed you too. FYI bribery is a corruption. NEED MORE MEOW FUDDER? Try this. Inside Donald Trump's Empire: Why He Didn't Run for President in 2012 I have plenty more if you insist on playing on. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #21. To: hondo68, A K A Stone, nolu chan (#19) So what is new? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #22. To: SOSO (#20) You haven't put up shit yet. Sued for racial discrimination. What a joke. I'll tell you this. If Rubio gets it I'll vote third party and the Republicans are toast. If someone gets more delegates then Trump. I'll vote for them. Except Rubio. If someone steals it. I will never vote Republican again. Unless they are a Trump like figure engaged in an effort to destroy the treasonous bastards that sold us out to free trade new world order asswipes.
#23. To: A K A Stone, SOSO (#22) Sued for racial discrimination. What a joke. Yeah, sued. Never admitted guilt and never found liable. Try another.
His Partner Was Arrested For Facilitating Prostitution Arrested does not note convicted.
New York real estate mogul arrested in Turkey on suspicion of running prostitute ring on $60m luxury yacht
#24. To: nolu chan, AKA Stone (#23) Arrested does not note convicted. Yep. And Al Capone was never even tried for murder, Nixon ws never convicted of anything, the Slickster never had sex with that woman, Obama allowed you to keep your health plan and doctor, and, Hillary was right that Benghazi was all about a video tape. Continue to chase your tails guys, it's a funny sight to see how gullible people are so easily conned and played the fool. Be all you can be. Make America great again. Meow. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #25. To: SOSO (#24) It wasn't even him either. You have become lame.
#26. To: SOSO, A K A Stone (#24) Continue to chase your tails guys Jeb! is history. You can stick a fork in Rubio. It's now a two-man race between Trump and Cruz. Chase that.
#27. To: nolu chan, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#26) It's now a two-man race between Trump and Cruz Who will very likely lose to Hillary, or Bernie. Once again the GOPe endorses the Democrat candidate, and the dumbass Republican party hack zombies help by nominating unelectable pieces of crap. If they wanted to win, they'd upgrade the nominee to a RINO. Real Republicans are unelectable. ![]() #28. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone (#26) It's now a two-man race between Trump and Cruz. Chase that. You may very well get what you wish for, 8 years of Hillary if Trump is the REP nominee. Please understand I am not in love with any of the remaining REP candidates. Dollar Donald is right about Rubio, he is an establishment light weight not a leader. Rubio, Cruz, and many others are right about Dollar Donald, he is a consummate con artist that has no principled center other that Dollar Donald - to him everything is negotiable. Trump is right about Cruz, he is not a likeable guy and likely an underhanded liar. As for Kasich I have a basic distrust of those touchy feely self-professed conservative types that constantly sing Kumbaya. So what's a boy to do? I will never vote for Dollar Donald, if it comes down to choosing between him or Hillary I will stay home. I would however vote for either of the remaining three over Hillary - not because I particularly like them but because I dislike them less than Trump and Hillary and would still be able to sleep at night. Yeah, neither Cruz, Kasich or Rubio do not represent my ideal choice but I can live with them, especially over Hillary. If I had to choose among them I think I would feel better about Kasich over the other two - but I don't think that he could beat Hillary in the general election. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #29. To: SOSO (#28) So what's a boy to do? I will never vote for Dollar Donald, if it comes down to choosing between him or Hillary I will stay home. I would however vote for either of the remaining three over Hillary - not because I particularly like them but because I dislike them less than Trump and Hillary and would still be able to sleep at night. Yeah, neither Cruz, Kasich or Rubio do not represent my ideal choice but I can live with them, especially over Hillary. If I had to choose among them I think I would feel better about Kasich over the other two - but I don't think that he could beat Hillary in the general election. You sound like you have mental problems. Your mental health is of no concern to me.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#29) You sound like you have mental problems. LMAO. MEOW!!!! потому что Бог хочет это тот путь Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest |
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