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Title: Georgia Pastafarian can wear colander in Nevada license photo
Source: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
URL Source: http://www.myajc.com/news/news/loca ... r-colander-in-nevada-li/nqMWw/
Published: Feb 28, 2016
Author: Arielle Kass
Post Date: 2016-02-28 23:02:54 by Hondo68
Keywords: None
Views: 2600
Comments: 18

When Chris Avino learned he would have to take a new driver’s license photo — this time, without a colander on his head — he vowed to fight the state of Georgia until the colander received the same religious headdress status as any hijab or yarmulke.

There was just one problem: by the time Avino was told that he’d need a new photo, he’d already moved from his parents’ Snellville address.

Instead of fighting to keep it on his noodle in Georgia, Avino simply got a Nevada driver’s license in mid-January. That state let him wear a colander in his photo.

“I was tired of waiting,” Avino said in an email.

Avino is a Pastafarian, and claims that the colander is his religious headdress. Pastafarians belong to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, a tongue-in-cheek group that substitutes eight “I’d Really Rather You Didn’ts” for the Ten Commandments. Though they have been accused of being anti-religion, members are “anti-crazy nonsense done in the name of religion,” according to the church’s website.

But Georgia didn’t recognize the group as a religion, and Department of Driver Services general counsel Angelique McClendon said in a letter that he needed a colander-free driver’s license photo.

“A colander is not a veil, scarf or headdress,” she said. “A colander is a kitchen utensil commonly used for ‘washing or draining food.’”

Avino maintains that he should have been allowed to wear the colander.

“If, for whatever reason, I move back to Georgia in the future, I will absolutely have my identification photo taken again wearing my religious headdress,” he wrote. “If I meet any resistance in that matter, my plan would be to find a lawyer myself and sue the Georgia Department of Driver Services for infringing on my constitutional rights.”



Mass. woman wins fight to wear colander in driver’s license by citing ‘pastafarian’ religion


In Surrey, B.C. the struggle continues.... http://bc.ctvnews.ca/pastafarian-fights-to-wear-colander-in-b-c-driver-s-licence-photo-1.1959706#ixzz3AQ34jckB


Poster Comment:

Is the State of Georgia trying to ban Catholic convert Newt Gingrich from wearing a pope hat, or what?

If they can ban Pastifarians today, they can ban Christians tomorrow.(5 images)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Nutso Koo Koo

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

A friend will help you move ,But a good friend will help you move a body..

Stoner  posted on  2016-02-29   5:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

Georgia Pastafarian can wear colander in Nevada license photo

Just tells you who runs the court system these days!

Can not wear a head cover or cover your face. Glasses okay as long as they do not hinder recognition of the face by the officer.

Children are running and ruining this country. Some of these children have been around since the FDR's reign.

Justified  posted on  2016-02-29   9:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner, Justified (#1)

Department of Driver Services general counsel Angelique McClendon... “A colander is not a veil, scarf or headdress,” she said. “A colander is a kitchen utensil commonly used for ‘washing or draining food.’”

Nutso Koo Koo

To us it's crazy, but from a legal standpoint their freedom of religion is a constitutionally protected right under the 1st amendment.

What's really crazy is Georgia officials telling them what is state approved religious headdress. Government officials don't get to decide religious dogma.

So.... Governor Moonbeam Brown doesn't get to define what "Christian" means to me!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-02-29   10:32:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#3)

What's really crazy is Georgia officials telling them what is state approved religious headdress. Government officials don't get to decide religious dogma

Depends on the State Constitution.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-29   11:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#3)

To us it's crazy, but from a legal standpoint their freedom of religion is a constitutionally protected right under the 1st amendment.

How is not showing your face a religious right under any amendment for a driver license?

The license is to prove to the police you are who you claim you are while driving on public property. If you do not want to show your face then don't get a drivers license and drive on public property.

Justified  posted on  2016-02-29   22:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Justified (#5)

If I had a face like yours could you blame me for not wanting a license?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-29   22:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz (#6)

If I had a face like yours could you blame me for not wanting a license?

Its not what your mom said to me! 8|

Justified  posted on  2016-02-29   23:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Justified (#5)

not showing your face

I clearly see the faces of all on the DL's shown.

Paul Revere didn't have a drivers license, or a registration plate either. You don't need that crap to leave your house and go somewhere.

The Boston Tea Party were all disguised as Indians, and they turned out fine. Some even became high government officials.

Just because D&R party lawlessness has become a tradition, doesn't make it legal.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-03-01   1:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#8)

If you do not want a driver's license you are not required to have one. But don't get caught driving on public road.

This is the kinda stuff that makes me crazy about absolute Libertarianism. Its not that you want limited government its you want no government which is an impossible act. You might as well stick you head in a chipper and claim the chipper has no right to harm you! 50% of the people in America are women who by their very nature are communist. Good luck!

BTW I do not hate libertarianims and as long as it lives within reality I good with it.

Justified  posted on  2016-03-01   9:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Justified (#9)

If you do not want a driver's license you are not required to have one. But don't get caught driving on public road.

Driving is a right. No question about it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-01   9:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

If you do not want a driver's license you are not required to have one. But don't get caught driving on public road.

Driving is a right. No question about it.

So a 10 year old child can drive with no insurance no license at any speed?

Since its a right there should be no qualifiers to those rights.

Justified  posted on  2016-03-01   12:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Justified (#11)

So a 10 year old child can drive with no insurance no license at any speed?

Is having sex a right?

Can you do it at any age?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-01   12:24:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#12)

You can until you get caught.

Even grown ups can not have sex in public.

If you want to drive on public land then you get a drivers license to show you have have the ability to drive and have insurances in case you hit someone.

You think we have problems now wait till cops can not tell the difference between good citizens and criminals. Criminals will have a field day and cops will be protecting the doughnut shops because they will get thrown in jail if they try to stop crime. If you the good citizen defend yourself you will be the one going to jail not the criminals. Just Shitcago or New Yack city!

Justified  posted on  2016-03-01   12:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Justified (#13)

"Even the legislature has no power to deny to a citizen the right to travel upon the highway and transport his property in the ordinary course of his business or pleasure, though this right may be regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience. - Chicago Motor Coach v Chicago 169 NE 22

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-01   12:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68 (#0)

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2016-03-01   13:22:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)

though this right may be regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience. - Chicago Motor Coach v Chicago 169 NE 22

Well there you go! ;)

If you do not have drivers license you can be ticketed or jailed if you refuse to pay and ignore tickets. Basically cop can ticket you all day long but the moment you do not pay or get judgement in court the cop can then arrest you.

Im not sure what the problem is of having reassemble picture taken for a driver's license?

Justified  posted on  2016-03-01   14:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Justified (#16)

Pastafarians
are
worse
than
Muslim
communists
nazis

they
are
liberals

love
boris

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-03-01   14:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Chuck_Wagon (#15)

Mark
of
the
beast

mad
collander
disease

love
boris

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2016-03-01   15:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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