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politics and politicians Title: Donald Trump Turned Down 94.4 Percent of American Job Applicants, Applied for Hundreds of ‘H’ Visas Instead Surprise! Donald Trump is a rank hypocrite on immigration. Per the New York Times:
Or, put another way, Trump has deliberately chosen to hire foreign workers to fill those jobs that “Americans just won’t do.” 17 out of 300? That’s 5.6 percent. 17 out of 500? That’s 3.4 percent. Bad!
So what’s Trump’s excuse? That’s he’s a businessman and that these are the realities on the ground? That, I’m afraid, won’t wash. When Disney behaved like this, there was a loud and sustained outcry from . . . well, no less than Donald Trump himself. In an interview with Breitbart, Trump argued that Disney should be forced to rehire any Americans it had overlooked or replaced. Trump also said this:
And he offered this critique of expanding the “H” program:
This attitude is is a popular one among Trump’s supporters. Indeed, Breitbart’s emissary to the Trump campaign, Matthew Boyle, has argued that “what Disney did — with the help of the U.S. government’s lax H1B immigration and visa policies — was awful.” Moreover, he has praised Trump for supposedly standing against it:
And yet, by Trump’s own logic, the H-2B program that he so heavily used is even more egregious than the H-1Bs system that Disney took advantage of. Why? Well, because unlike H-1Bs — which can in theory be used to recruit skilled workers — H-2Bs are aimed directly at the bottom of the economic ladder. Here’s the Times again:
And clearly, Trump didn’t want to find them. Which means that, in his own words, he is guilty of gaming the system to “replace any worker with cheaper foreign labor”; he is guilty of “job theft”; and he is guilty of indulging the “legal right to pass over Americans, displace Americans, or directly replace Americans for good-paying middle class jobs.”
Slamming Disney for its use of H-1Bs, Matthew Boyle also proposed that the “scandal doesn’t seem to be going away, and only appears to be intensifying as the electoral season progresses.” What, one wonders, must Boyle then think of Trump? If we are to judge a man by his actions and not by his rhetoric — as I’m told we should — then Trump comes up short, no? When 300 hardworking Americans tried to land a job at his resort, Trump kicked them to the curb and applied instead for 500 “H” visas.
It’s “election season” now, so I await the extensive Breitbart denunciation with bated, skeptical breath. In the meantime, the good people of America should realize that they’re being duped by a bad man who doesn’t give a hoot about anybody other than himself. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest “You almost have them as indentured servants,” said Danny Fontenot, director of the hospitality program at Palm Beach State College. “And they affect everyone else’s wages. You can make a lot of money by never having to give your employees raises.” Sheesh! Trump's dirty laundry list gets longer every day.
#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1) "Trump's dirty laundry list gets longer every day." Yeah. And that list comes from "conservative" groups. Wait until the liberals get going.
#3. To: misterwhite, sneakypete, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#2) Here's some of the conservative groups I'm sure you're a member of, whitey. They support Trump too. www.huffingtonpost.com/en..._56cf4437e4b0bf0dab31222f
#4. To: cranky (#0) In all but a handful of cases, Mar-a-Lago sought to fill the jobs with hundreds of foreign guest workers from Romania and other countries. Hey, he even imported two of his three wives. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #5. To: Fred Mertz (#3) "Here's some of the conservative groups I'm sure you're a member of, whitey." The more posts of yours I read, the more I think you'd make a good liberal.
#6. To: misterwhite (#5) You mean the white supremacists won't have me? I feel slighted. And yeah, I can't stand Trump. I may post a vanity tomorrow counting the ways.
#7. To: Fred Mertz (#6) "You mean the white supremacists won't have me?" No, I mean all can do is poke fun and call names. Listen to any liberal and that's all they do.
#8. To: cranky (#0) It's the current law. Trump is smart and exploits the current law to its full advantage. Trump is not the sort to believe in unilateral disarmament. You provide a legal loophole he can exploit to get rich, and he will exploit the hell out of it. The thing with Trump is that he doesn't think many of the loopholes he uses are fair. If they're THERE, he will use them. He will exploit the hell out of cheap foreign labor like the rest of them. He will not impose a disadvantage on HIMSELF. But he sees, and admits, and acknowledges, the damage that heavy immigration and free trade does to American workers, and he is willing to protect American workers across the board, by closing loopholes he uses - so that NOBODY ELSE can use them EITHER. That's the key. Trump will disarm if everybody else is forced to disarm, but he won't unilaterally disarm. He'll use the laws to force a solution that's best for Americans, but while the laws are as they are, he will not inflict damage on himself to make some sort of quixotic statement. He's not a martyr, but he is a leader. What Trump does is perfectly legal and fine. It's just not good for working Americans. He'll change the law so that neither he nor any of his competitors can do that anymore. Right now he has no influence over the law so he exploits it to make himself rich...so that he has the money to take over the GOP without contributions. In other words, he's smart.
#9. To: SOSO (#4) Hey, he even imported two of his three wives. We like what we like. We should favor our own in employment contracts for the good of the country. But when it comes to spouses, you go for what you like; nationalism has no place in THAT decision. WHen it comes to wives, imports are good, domestic is good - you marry what you like. It's better that way, because it's most important to STAY married. Donald has had some trouble with that.
#10. To: Vicomte13 (#9) Trump's current wife as First Lady will be one hell of an improvement over the current first lady!! Both in terms of character, and looks!! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood A friend will help you move ,But a good friend will help you move a body.. #11. To: Vicomte13 (#9) Hey, he even imported two of his three wives. I see that sarcasm is not lost on you. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь #12. To: cranky (#0) I am hoping you are not suggesting that Trump,the Holy is a hypocrite or a liar! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #13. To: misterwhite (#7) Listen to any liberal and that's all they do. listen to any RINO,and all they do is make excuses for any criminal with a R behind his name. ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #14. To: Vicomte13 (#8) Temporary Visa workers don't earn any less than Americans and fill in short term jobs. These articles are designed to pray on the stupid anti-Trumpers who don't know the difference in H-1B vs H2-B. H1-B takes high paying wages and permanent jobs from Americans. Having college age kids from other countries come and do seasonal low pay work and go home is needed for the economy.
#15. To: Vicomte13 (#8) But he sees, and admits, and acknowledges, the damage that heavy immigration and free trade does to American workers, and he is willing to protect American workers across the board, by closing loopholes he uses - so that NOBODY ELSE can use them EITHER. Excellent post. "A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in.” ― C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity #16. To: Vicomte13 (#8) Trump will disarm if everybody else is forced to disarm, but he won't unilaterally disarm. He'll use the laws to force a solution that's best for Americans, but while the laws are as they are, he will not inflict damage on himself to make some sort of quixotic statement. He's not a martyr, but he is a leader. Tightly reasoned and convincing.
#17. To: Pericles (#14) We have perennially high American youth unemployment, and perennially high unemployment for low-wage Americans. We don't need foreign college kids to come fill those jobs. We need those jobs for American youth and low-wage American workers. We have a massive budget deficit. Part of that is welfare for unemployed low-skilled people. Stop importing low-wage jobs. We have lots of poorly educated people in THIS country on the dole or on and off unemployment. And we have college age kids who would work more to pay their way. We do not need to import ANY LABOR AT ALL. We have universal education, massive college infrastructure, and a 16% U-6 unemployment rate. We need to be leaving those jobs unfilled by foreigners so that they will be filled by Americans. As long as there are unemployed and underemployed Americans, we do not need to permit one single foreigner to get a work visa in America, for anything, except perhaps teaching the foreign language of which he is a native speaker. The world has nothing to teach us about computers, or science, or technology, banking, medicine, law, English, or anything else. Foreign visas are not issued because American companies cannot find qualified Americans. It's because American companies cannot find qualified Americans AT THE WAGES THEY WANT TO PAY. Visas artificially expand the labor pool exerting downward pressure on wages. This exerts upward pressure on American welfare rolls. We need to remove the crutch. Once the U-6 unemployment rate is at 2%, THEN we can give VISAs, because then we will be in a scenario where we are at truly full employment. But allowing American companies to import foreigners to keep down labor costs is not acceptable. Of course as there is a labor shortage, wages will go up. But there really ISN'T a labor shortage when there are so many unemployed people. What there is, is an unwilling to pay more, and to train currently untrained people, to change standards. Employers want it EASY, but the country is better off if it is harder and more expensive, because those costs EMPLOY people, and it's better that employers spend more money than they want to on wages and on training - which itself hires people (to do the training), than for the employers to have lower costs, and the American taxpayers bear the burden of paying to keep all of those unemployed people alive. The labor market needs to be confined to Americans, for the purpose of getting full employment for Americans, first and foremost - this means higher labor costs, higher training costs, and therefore higher prices for goods and services. And that is all fine, because it also means full employment, at higher salaries, and therefore higher tax revenues of every sort, with simultaneously lower and lower social costs. That, in turn, means an eventual budget surplus, the paydown of debt, which in turn means the reducing of interest expense, which further drives up the surplus and down the debt. Fully employ people at higher wages, and higher cost of goods, and you end up in a spiral of debt payoff and leads to less and less pressure on taxpayers. Eventually you get to zero debt and the ability to slash taxes across the board and permanently. But try to get employers cheaper labor, and you just end up exploding the budget deficit and interest payments, because in the end, every foreigner you employ means an American on welfare. That's really the bottom line.
#18. To: Vicomte13 (#17) We have perennially high American youth unemployment, and perennially high unemployment for low-wage Americans. I don't disagree but in places where the population is transient and work can't b e filled by the population it is needed. But in general I agree.
#19. To: Pericles (#18) There is no place where the population is transient and work can't be filled. Foreigners will come to do the work. Americans will also - if the wage is better. Americans move around all the time. They won't move for a three week job that doesn't pay enough to make it worthwhile. Businesses don't have to raise salaries and benefits if they can get cheap transient labor. If they can't, then the businesses have to adjust their model, and they DO adjust their model too. They don't just all decide to exit the market. If it's more expensive, they adjust their prices. But that's ok, because that extra money gets spent on salaries, which get spent on goods and services, and it all brings in more tax revenue. Mouths require a certain amount of money to feed, bodies, a certain amount to clothe, house, transport and medically treat. Either that money will come from wages, or it will come from taxpayers. There is no other source of any importance. It is far better that wages and prices be higher but the burden on taxpayers be lower, because it means less idle time for many hands. Idle hands are the Devil's workshop. Unemployment means higher crime rates and obesity, among other things. Labor standards must be enforced, and tightened, so that employers cannot substitute running one worker ragged when he would have hired two foreign kids. The answer is that he needs to hire two Americans, pay for it, and raise prices to make that work. Yes, full employment DOES mean some inflation, but it doesn't surge upward perpetually the way it will if we just keep on printing money to cover welfare costs. To compensate, as welfare rolls go down and unemployment rolls go down, there is surplus money in the budget, to pay debt, which means interest goes down. Over time, you can cut taxes, and that provides more money in everybody's pockets to pay the higher prices. The day needs to be drawing near when we stop treating our own people like commodities, like coal or wheat, and understand that the purpose of the economy and the nation is so that we can all advance together, not so that some can profit massively by exploiting the rest. How is this not socialism or communism? Because nobody said anything about taking over the private companies and having the government be the direct employer. It's not socialism or communism to look after all of your brothers and sisters and not commoditize them. It's Christianity.
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