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Title: Wow! there may not be aliens afterall
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Published: Feb 24, 2016
Author: paraclete
Post Date: 2016-02-24 03:20:31 by paraclete
Keywords: Seti, aliens, comets
Views: 2735
Comments: 21

In 1977 the search for aliens started, when an unknown message was detected, now the mystery has been solved and there are no little green men. Didn't you just know it! No wait I might have spoken too soon but how will you know?

IT’S the space noise that gave birth to an entire generation of alien hunters almost four decades ago and has baffled scientists ever since.

An hour before midnight on August 15, 1977, an astronomer working on the SETI project at the Big Ear radio telescope of Ohio State University heard a strong signal coming from the constellation Sagittarius.

The signal sequence lasted for the 72 second window that Jerry R Ehman was able to observe it but hasn’t been detected since. It was dubbed the “Wow!” signal after Mr Ehman’s excited scribble on the first print out of the signal.

Many have long believed that the signal was the first evidence of extraterrestrials attempting to communicate with Earth.

It roared through at an atmosphere-piercing 1420 megahertz, corresponding to a wavelength of 21cm, which is one of the main frequencies at which the most common element in the universe, hydrogen atoms, absorb and emit energy.

The alien life hopes were further boosted by several investigations which ruled out Earth and other objects like planets, satellites and asteroids as the source.

Now one of the world’s top scientists claims to have debunked the extraterrestrial theory once and for all.

Antonio Paris, a professor of astronomy at St Petersburg College in Florida, said he started obsessing over the famed signal last July. Then, while driving his car one day, he had what Oprah Winfrey might call a “light bulb moment”.

Professor Antonio Paris will soon get to test his theory as the two comets he believes caused the “Wow!” signal are due to “return to the scene of the crime” — although not together — in 2017 and 2018.

“Out of the blue, I was looking at a truck passing on a bridge overhead as I drove under it,” Prof Paris told The Tampa Tribune yesterday.

“It occurred to me it could have been an object that went over us, just like the truck; a truck we will never see again. It could have been a comet or asteroid that came over us so many years ago.”

The professor jumped into the rabbit hole that is NASA’s archive and used custom software to track the paths of all the “comets unseen and undiscovered” in 1977.

“We found two culprits which went all the way back to the original source of the signal,” he said. “They were there on the same exact date, time, and in the neighbourhood from where the signal was detected.

“We wanted the answer to this and this might be it.”

Prof Paris published his findings last month in an article written with colleague Evan Davies of The Explorers Club in the journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences.

He says it won’t be long before his theory can be tested — in front of the world, in real time.

Dr Paris speaking at Florida’s Museum of Science and Industry (MOSI), where he is chief scientist.

That’s because the two comets he believes caused the “Wow!” signal are due to “return to the scene of the crime” — although not together — in 2017 and 2018.

He said 266P/Christensen will swing by in January 2017 followed by P/2008 Y2 (Gibbs) about a year later. While not an exact replica of the situation that is believed to have occurred in 1977, it will still be possible to monitor the comets one at a time and get a good idea if the “Wow!” signal came from them.

“That’s the only problem, in 1977 they were together,” Prof Paris told the Tribune.

“The next time those two comets will pass together though that sector of space will be 600 years. (But) I have a gut feeling that this was a natural phenomenon.”

Prof Paris said most in the astronomical community supported his theory, adding that “everybody is excited, excited to wait for 2017 and 2018 to come around”.

Well, not everybody. Definitely not SETI and especially not conspiracy theorists for whom the words “natural phenomenon” might as well read “death of a dream” or “I just lost my job”.

SETI League executive director Paul Shuch, aka Dr SETI, appeared to shrug off Prof Paris’ paper.

“This is first I’ve head of it,” he said. “It’s all speculation right now.”

Dr Shuch did concede, however, that if the theory did test right with the return of the comets, it was worthy of a Nobel prize.

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#1. To: paraclete (#0)

odds are in favor of life out there .

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-24   10:58:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#1)

odds are in favor of life out there .

Why do you think those are the odds?

Do you think life evolved out there or something like that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-24   11:05:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#2)

Do you think life evolved out there or something like that?

Bottom line is we just don't know at this point.

What we do know is that there is life on earth. And if it happened once, whether through some natural event or events, or through some kind of supernatural/divine intervention, then it's hard to say that the same thing couldn't occur elsewhere.

If the former, we don't know how often it can happen, whether it happens on tiny fraction of places that could support life, or, by contrast, a near impossibly thin fraction of such places. Given the estimated size of the universe and number of candidate planets, which it is would make a big difference.

Alternatively, if some intelligent creation was involved from outside the universe, then it's a matter of faith to say that this same source of creation would or would not create life on another planet besides earth.

One NASA guru is claiming that the tech should be available in another couple decades to detect life in other solar systems. I suppose that will only be true if such tech returns positive results, as any negative results won't prove life isn't there. I'm sure the reliability of the tech will be challenged if it does give positive results.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-25   21:33:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pinguinite (#11)

Bottom line is we just don't know at this point.

Actually some of us do.

It is found in the book of Genesis.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-26   7:22:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#16)

What we know is human life is fragile and we have just about optimum conditions within a wide range but the essential is we can grow crops. These conditions don't exist on other local planets.

This is the essential truth that is lost on those who search for other worlds, the number of conditions that have to be right are many and the opportunities few, the band within the habitable zone is tight.

When you couple this with the other issues associated with travel, weightlessness, radiation, time we are as far off as we ever were and we need to resign ourselves to the fact that the design for interstellar travel looks like the planet we inhabit

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-28   1:37:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: paraclete, A K A Stone (#17)

This is the essential truth that is lost on those who search for other worlds, the number of conditions that have to be right are many and the opportunities few, the band within the habitable zone is tight.

Indeed the conditions do have to be just right. There is the habitable zone, the tilt of the planet has to be adequate. A large moon is essential for planetary stability for advanced life to evolve, if evolution is correct, the planet must have a strong enough magnetic field to protect it's atmosphere from solar erosion and otherwise protect the surface from radiation. The list does go on.

But "opportunities few"? Perhaps in local space it is, but our galaxy alone has many billions of stars about all of which should have planets around them. Even if only a tiny fraction of them would have all criteria met, it would still be a substantial number of opportunities. And that's just in our galaxy. And there are billions of galaxies.

I don't know where the Bible says that God created life only on earth.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-28   3:05:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Pinguinite (#18)

billions of possibilities doesn't make one probability

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-28   17:15:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: paraclete (#19)

The probability of getting hit by lightning is extremely slim.

But people are hit and killed nonetheless, because their are billions of people, and the odd simply add up.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-29 00:53:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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