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The Establishments war on Donald Trump Title: It’s on: New Cruz ad ridicules Trump as fake Republican Like Donkey Kong. Ted Cruz scored a surprising third-place finish in New Hampshire in yesterday’s first-in-the-nation primary, and now it looks like he’s going for a knockout before South Carolina. Cruz tweeted out the campaign’s latest web ad after his victory, one that takes aim at the winner, Donald Trump. The ad depicts children playing with their new “Donald Trump action figure,” and says what he does most is “pretend to be a Republican”: It’s a tour de force of counter-Trump arguments. The ad manages to mention Trump’s friendship with Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid (and adds in a shot at Anthony Weiner, too). Bailouts and Too Big To Fail get mentioned, but it’s Trump’s support for eminent domain that gets most of the attention: GIRL DOLL: Check out my house, Mr. Trump! TRUMP DOLL: That’s a lousy house! I’m gonna take your house with eminent domain — and park my limos there. KIDS: [while destroying dollhouse] Eminent domain! Eminent domain! VOICEOVER: We wouldn’t tolerate these values in our children. Why would we want them in a president? Ridicule can be a powerful tool in politics, and it might be the only kind of attack that will work on Trump. His supporters don’t appear to care much about Trump’s lack of policy substance and consistency; they like his attitude and his ability to shift the Overton window on acceptable debate. Trump has a thin skin, though, and Cruz does not. If he can force Trump to demonstrate that thin skin, it might undermine the perception of Trump’s toughness, while still appealing on policy grounds to other voters. This still holds some risk. Some voters might not appreciate the use of children to make these points (perhaps especially the reference to Anthony Weiner, considering the context). Cruz got some media heat for using his own kids in a Saturday Night Live skit, which was ludicrous, but this might reopen that debate. Trump and his supporters will complain that it’s a low blow, but since Trump himself often ridicules his opponents with personal attacks, that’s a non-starter. In fact, Cruz might be counting on that reaction to counter Trump’s recent attack on him as a “pussy,” to demonstrate that Trump might be suffering from a case of projection. It’s a good time for Cruz to go on the attack. It got lost in the John Kasich shuffle last night, but Cruz far outperformed expectations in New Hampshire, beating out Jeb Bush for third place. Combined with his win in Iowa, Cruz has significant momentum, and is aiming to take over the race by beating the other leading candidate rather than punching downward or sideways, as Team Jeb is doing. This ad could steal some of the post-primary buzz from Kasich, and set up a real fight in South Carolina. Poster Comment: Cute ad, maybe a little too cute. Cruz may need stronger ads than that to dent Trump. I would guess we'll see Bush unload on Trump too. Bush has nothing left to lose by doing so and will certainly lose if he can't find a way to take on Trump. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Comments (1-17) not displayed.
If you think Trump is a liar why would you vote for him? I think all people are liars. And I'm pretty sure all politicians are. If I didn't vote for liars, I wouldn't vote. In Trump's case, his lies are lies to conceal what he is going to do (like all politician lies are). In his case, what he's going to do is what I AGREE with. Deceit is part of warfare. Politics is war by other means. We're in a titanic struggle for the future. That a political leader is misleading the enemy is part of the fight. Politicians lie, because our system does not elect honest men.
#19. To: TooConservative (#17) Cruz is more of a True Believer, an ideologue. Which is why he will never be President. Aspects of his ideology are repulsive, and the people are not going to vote for that ideology, or for him. So, this election cycle is going to be pretty bitter from your standpoint. You're destined to lose no matter what. You don't like Trump, so when he wins the nomination and then the White House, you're going to be unhappy. You don't like Hillary or any other Democrat, so if Cruz somehow gets nominated, when he loses, you will be unhappy. I'm actually happy about American politics for the first time in my adult life. Trump gets it on just exactly the life and death issues, and he's winning. So there's hope, from my perspective, for the first time. I guess the sunshine breaking out for me means that darkness is falling on people who disagree. Oh well.
#20. To: A K A Stone (#12) (Edited) Lying is a sin. I wouldn't want you to sin. Cruz won't build the wall - he'll never have the chance to. He can't win.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#14) Do you cast spells? Wouldn't that be great? Alas, no.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#13) You are both sides of the horses ass. I like to keep my options open.
#23. To: A K A Stone (#12) Lying is a sin. In war, deceit is necessary.
#24. To: Vicomte13 (#19) I'm actually happy about American politics for the first time in my adult life. Trump gets it on just exactly the life and death issues, and he's winning. So there's hope, from my perspective, for the first time. Yeah, finally a Republican you can give your heart to without reservation. You realize I've seriously downgraded my estimates of your intelligence. I mean that. I'm not just saying it to be mean. I actually think less of you for falling for this shameless con man.
#25. To: TooConservative (#24) You realize I've seriously downgraded my estimates of your intelligence. I mean that. I'm not just saying it to be mean. I actually think less of you for falling for this shameless con man. Oh well, I'll just have to live with that I guess.
#26. To: Vicomte13 (#19) An interesting piece at HotAir (yeah, I know I post too many of these). HotAir: Dear Mexico: you might wind up paying for that wall after all They mention that remittances from illegals and green card holders (resident aliens) now exceeds Mexico's oil revenue. And that Trump could move to seize those remittances, especially if they're from illegals. Anyway, HotGas doesn't post much pro-Trump stuff so you might want to skim through this one.
#27. To: A K A Stone (#26) Sorry, forgot to ping you to my previous post in case you want to consider whether Trump really could make Mexico pay for a wall. Anyway, they discussed it and HA is not very friendly to Trump.
#28. To: misterwhite (#1) It never happened. They'll keep repeating it anyway.
#29. To: Roscoe (#28) "They'll keep repeating it anyway." They have to in order to keep it alive.
Looks a little like Charles Krauthammer, doesn't he?
#30. To: misterwhite (#29) " Looks a little like Charles Krauthammer, doesn't he? " The facial similarities are striking. Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood #31. To: Vicomte13 (#25) Oh well, I'll just have to live with that I guess. I think you know he's a con man. Yet you just keep supporting him. I think you're hoping he utterly destroys the GOP so your imaginary pro-life Popery party will rise to reign supreme or some other daft fantasy like the ones where the Latinos will turn America Catholic (instead of America turning the Latinos godless which is what has happened across the board).
#32. To: TooConservative (#0) My apologies I ping you to the same video. Been traveling and missed this thread. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) #33. To: Vicomte13 (#20) He can't win. Liar. You don't know. I don't know. Why do you feel the need to say things that aren't true. There is no way you can know. Lying is a sin even in war.
#34. To: Vicomte13 (#19) I'm actually happy about American politics for the first time in my adult life. You are an incredibly whining puppet, controlled by the powerful forces you are happy about.
#35. To: A K A Stone (#33) Lying is a sin even in war. Except when Jewish prophets practice it in the wars of Israel?
#36. To: buckeroo, Too Conservative, A K A Stone (#34) You are an incredibly whining puppet, controlled by the powerful forces you are happy about. Not hardly. I simply do not share your ideology. If we were to list out the points of ideological difference between us, we would start with religion and move on down from there through concepts of of the sanctity of life, of war, of economics and finance, protection of the weak, etc. We have different values, with only few points of intersection. And I am no more likely to embrace your ideals - because I think they are wrong - then you are to embrace mine. In this, you and Too Conservative and A K A Stone are similar.
#37. To: TooConservative (#31) I think you know he's a con man. Yet you just keep supporting him. I do not think he is a con man. I think he means what he says on immigration, on trade and on allying with the Russians. I think those three policy changes are THE fundamental alterations needed to our national policy to restore order and prosperity to America. I think he will advance swiftly on all three areas when he is President, because THOSE things are all within the purview of Presidential power. And I know I will get none of those things from either the Republicans or the Democrats.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#33) Liar. Yeah I do. He can't. And he SHOULDN'T, because he's wrong on economics in the most profound ways.
#39. To: redleghunter (#32) I saw this and thought of you. Match this, Jack Chick! : ) InsideEdition: Teen Waiter Discovers $20 Tip Is Actually A Bible Pamphlet In Disguise
#40. To: Vicomte13 (#38) Liar. You don't know. You are a liar. Also Cruz is a Christian. You are not. Or at the least a very deluded one that is full of himself. YOu are a proud boaster that the Bible warns about. Someone who votes for someone they think is lying to them is a dumb fucker. The devil is the father of lies and a murderer. You want to vote for someone you consider a liar. And no everyone isn't a liar. But you confirmed you are when you said everyone is.
#41. To: Vicomte13 (#37) And I know Another lie. You don't know. You lie all the time. Quit making shit up.
#42. To: TooConservative (#31) I think you're hoping he utterly destroys the GOP so your imaginary pro-life Popery party will rise to reign supreme or some other daft fantasy like the ones where the Latinos will turn America Catholic (instead of America turning the Latinos godless which is what has happened across the board). I hope he successfully completes a hostile takeover of the GOP, turning it into a populist middle-class and working-class party that works to the benefit of American domestic national interests and not the interest of global financial elites. Obviously when Trump deports the illegals and puts up the wall, that will be the end of the precipitous rise of the Latino proportion of the population. I believe that economic prosperity for middle class and working class people will precipitate a baby boom - people decide to restrict childbearing for economic reasons - and given that whites are the majority, I think that means that the basic cultural/ethnic mix of America will be rebalanced. I don't really care what the average skin color of America is, but I think that those further down the spectrum and suffering in joblessness are the ones having fewer babies, and who also skew religious. Which means that I expect the fact of a baby boom towards the center/bottom is likely to increase the representation of pro-life sentiment, and bring about the political majority shift to the pro-life position, which is the only thing that will ultimately succeed in stamping out abortion rights. The minority cannot grab political control and cram down an abortion ban in America. It is impossible. A political majority is required to do it, and I think that restablizing the American economy, which Trump's policies will do, has the best shot of turning around the demographic decline. Oh, and alliance with Russia instead of Cold War? Money thrown at the arms industry is corporate welfare. The better policy is to make peace with the ONE other nation that can really be a threat, and coordinate world hegemony in tandem with them. Trump is right about that. Divvy up the world with the Russians and cooperate with each other. The French and English FINALLY figured that out towards the end of the imperial period, and it worked out well for them - and ultimately saved their bacon in World War I. But if it makes you feel better to think I'm just following a con-man, carry on.
#43. To: A K A Stone (#41) Another lie. You don't know. I do know: Cruz cannot win, and he will not win, and he will never be President. He is too creepy for one. He makes people's skin crawl. And his personal wealth is derived from Goldman Sachs, through his wife. Cruz loves free trade. He loves the moneymen. He's a good Republican, who will favor them. And the people of the country see it, and will not let him pass.
#44. To: Vicomte13 (#36) In this, you and Too Conservative and A K A Stone are similar. We are not thieves. You support thieves taking peoples money. Money to give to idle sloths who don't deserve it. By their fruits ye shall know them. Your fruit stinks like a thief. God didn't say to rely on the governmenbt. He said to rely on him. You worship the state and the poop. Not God. You are voting for someone you consider a liar and you have the values of a thief. You don't take biblical correction. Because you believe it is just a book with words. You think the Bible is flawed and full of errors. Your view of thievery and saying it is biblical turns people away from God. You are like the Pharisees that Jesus warned us about who stood over the door to block others from receiving his word.
#45. To: Vicomte13 (#43) I do know: Cruz cannot win, You said Cruz can't win. But you are a liar from the catholic cult. He already won Iowa. So you are a confirmed liar. You claim to know the future. You remind me and probably everyone here more of a fortuen teller then a Christian. Yuu claim to know the future, like some kind of false prophet. To go along with your many false teachings. But you predicted the future wrong many times. You are not someone to be listened to. Not someone to be elevated. I mean you made a thread on the King James version and said you were only going to quote Kinj James version scripture. And I don't think you had but a couple of quotes. The rest was your long winded bullshit. God isn't a communist. You support that ideology though. You're such a fool.
#46. To: Vicomte13 (#42) I hope he successfully completes a hostile takeover of the GOP, turning it into a populist middle-class and working-class party that works to the benefit of American domestic national interests and not the interest of global financial elites. No populist has ever won the American presidency. Probably the closest any prez came to being a populist was Andrew Jackson. And I wouldn't really call him a populist either by the standards of his era. The American system is designed as much as possible to defeat populists and demagogues. Like Trump.
#47. To: TooConservative (#46) The American system is designed as much as possible to defeat populists and demagogues. Like Trump. You are a fool of a different order then Vic. I'll leave it at that. Also the founders wouldn't consider Cruz natural born.
#48. To: A K A Stone (#47) Also the founders wouldn't consider Cruz natural born. Takes one to know one. The Founders weren't natural-born either. And that clause in the Constitution contained an exemption for the Founders, probably its primary purpose over the lesser intent to provide a native-born ruling class. Despite many other disagreements and distrust (toward each other), the Founders were quite unified in legitimizing themselves as America's first ruling class.
#49. To: TooConservative (#39) When I was a lad my buddy used a similar one but it was a 10 not a 20. He used to leave them on the floor of public buses and then watch the faces of the people who picked them up. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) #50. To: redleghunter (#49) When I was a lad my buddy used a similar one but it was a 10 not a 20. Inflation. : ) Good anecdote.
#51. To: TooConservative (#46) The American system is designed as much as possible to defeat populists Yes. And the oligarchy that the system has produced has fouled the nest so badly that now a populist will win ANYWAY. It's a revolution. Trump's win will make it a bloodless one.
#52. To: A K A Stone (#44) I apply the economic rules that God dictated four thousand years ago. You just do whatever you want to and call it holy. And yet you and I both support Trump.
#53. To: TooConservative (#50) He's an elder in a church. I should be a guest speaker there and recount the story to the flock. :) For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8) #54. To: Vicomte13 (#43) (Edited) And his (Cruz's) personal wealth is derived from Goldman Sachs, through his wife.
He married someone completely compatible with his political position and mission, a woman working to unify the nations of Mexico and America. That's a secret you won't finding him shouting during his presidential campaign speeches. It'll be a surprise for all of us should he become elected.
#55. To: All (#54) (Edited) And his (Cruz's) personal wealth is derived from Goldman Sachs, through his wife. In brief, Cruz and his wife formed a surrepticious partnership to accomplish an equally surrepticious and agreeable political mission.
#56. To: rlk (#54) We needn't worry about it. Cruz is not going to win the election. He won't win the Republican nomination - there are simply not enough of his brand of Republican to offset the virulent opposition he provokes among the Establishment types. If there were no Trump, Carson would still be big, diminishing Cruz's vote, and Jeb! would be running away with it. Trump emasculated Bush in the first couple of debates, and as Trump rose, the "I hate the Establishment but anybody but Trump" crowd coalesced around Cruz. But it's not nearly enough to give Cruz the nomination, let alone win the general election. Trump has incredible crossover appeal. Cruz is unappealing. Trump will be the nominee, and the next President.
#57. To: Vicomte13 (#43) I do know: Cruz cannot win, Polls: Cruz Would Fare 5 Points Better Versus Clinton Than Trump Would http://www.weeklystandard.com/polls-cruz-would-fare-5-points-better-versus- clinton-than-trump-would/article/2001034/? utm_medium=social&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=20160211_TWS-blog-cruz-best- trump-general-1_twitter&utm_content=TWS
You need to get out a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word know and the word believe. They are not synonymous So unless you are claiming some divine knowledge of the future. Cut it out it makes you look foolish and it is a lie.
#58. To: Vicomte13 (#56) If there were no Trump, Carson would still be big, diminishing Cruz's vote, and Jeb! would be running away with it. You don't know that. It is your opinion not a fact.
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