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Title: People Have A 'Fundamental Right' To Own Assault Weapons, Court Rules
Source: The Bay Net
URL Source: http://www.thebaynet.com/news/peopl ... sault-weapons-court-rules.html
Published: Feb 5, 2016
Author: Cristian Farias
Post Date: 2016-02-05 10:00:07 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 8295
Comments: 46

In a major victory for gun rights advocates, a federal appeals court on Thursday sided with a broad coalition of gun owners, businesses and organizations that challenged the constitutionality of a Maryland ban on assault weapons and other laws aimed at curbing gun violence.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit said the state's prohibition on what the court called "the vast majority of semi-automatic rifles commonly kept by several million American citizens" amounted to a violation of their rights under the Constitution.

"In our view, Maryland law implicates the core protection of the Second Amendment -- the right of law-abiding responsible citizens to use arms in defense of hearth and home," Chief Judge William Traxler wrote in the divided ruling.

Provisions that outlaw these firearms, Traxler wrote, "substantially burden this fundamental right."

Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, who recently suspended his Democratic presidential campaign, signed Maryland's Firearm Safety Act of 2013 in the wake of the school massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, which spurred similar initiatives in other Democratic-leaning states.

The legislation mostly targets specific kinds of semi-automatic firearms -- such as AR-15s and AK-47s -- and large-capacity magazines, and adds certain registration and licensing requirements.

But gun rights advocates, including the National Rifle Association, quickly moved to challenge these laws in the courts, claiming that the restrictions they imposed on lawful gun ownership were overly broad and weren't proven to save lives.

“"This case was a major victory for the NRA and gun rights advocates."
—Adam Winkler, UCLA law professor

The legal attacks have largely failed. Last October, a federal appeals court in Manhattan upheld the most iconic of these laws -- those passed in New York and Connecticut in direct response to the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. And in December, the Supreme Court declined to review a ruling out of Illinois that upheld a similar ban on assault weapons.

The high court's reluctance to intervene in these disputes has left the Second Amendment in a bit of a state of flux. Since the Supreme Court established in 2008 and 2010 that the amendment protects a personal right to keep and bear arms for self-defense within the home, judges have struggled to apply those decisions to the newer spate of gun legislation. And inconsistent rulings and standards across the country have left the scope of the law unclear.

When the Supreme Court refused to take up the Illinois case, Justice Clarence Thomas complained that the Second Amendment was being relegated to "a second-class right."

"If a broad ban on firearms can be upheld based on conjecture that the public might feel safer (while being no safer at all), then the Second Amendment guarantees nothing," he wrote, and added that those earlier decisions enshrining the right to gun ownership shouldn't be expected to "clarify the entire field."

The lack of clarity since then underscores why Thursday's decision may be a boon to those who want to see a broader interpretation of the Second Amendment, setting the stage for the next Supreme Court confrontation.

"This case was a major victory for the NRA and gun rights advocates," said Adam Winkler, a law professor at UCLA who specializes in Second Amendment law. "This opinion is an important one because it subjects important gun control laws to the most strict form of judicial scrutiny."

Indeed, the biggest surprise in Chief Judge Traxler's 66-page opinion is the words "strict scrutiny," a stringent constitutional test that most government laws and regulations fail. Other courts have applied more forgiving standards to similar gun legislation and upheld it.

The 4th Circuit's decision didn't outright strike down the Maryland legislation. Instead, it instructed a lower court to subject the provision to the higher legal standard, meaning more litigation and the possibility of a future showdown at the Supreme Court -- though maybe not yet, according to Winkler.

As if to illustrate the volatile politics and legalities of gun control, dissenting Circuit Judge Robert King all but declared that the court's ruling would lead to the next mass shooting.

"Let's be real," King wrote. "The assault weapons banned by Maryland's [law] are exceptionally lethal weapons of war."

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#5. To: All (#0) (Edited)

"The lack of clarity since then underscores why Thursday's dec decision may be a boon to those who want to see a broader interpretation of the Second Amendment, setting the stage for the next Supreme Court confrontation."

Why do people think the Supreme Court will agree with a broader interpretation?

Heller was a very narrow decision, protecting an individual right to keep and bear arms a) in common use b) for self-defense c) within the home. An AR-15 or an AK-47 is not your ideal weapon for self- defense in the home.

If this does go to the Supreme Court, it's possible that 5 liberal justices could rule otherwise. Then we are truly f**ked.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-05   11:04:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: misterwhite (#5)

If this does go to the Supreme Court, it's possible that 5 liberal justices could rule otherwise. Then we are truly f**ked.

white .... as always, you are an absolute idiot.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-05   22:27:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#22)

"white .... as always, you are an absolute idiot."

In Heller, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the second amendment protected an individual right to keep and bear arms a) in common use b) for self-defense c) within the home.

Only an idiot would think that ruling would prevent 5 liberal justices from concluding second amendment protection does not include an AR-15 or an AK-47. They can very easily say that those weapons are not that common, that they are variants of military weapons, and they are dangerous as home self-defense weapons due to the penetrating power of the bullet.

You think they wouldn't? I give you their idiotic decisions of Roe v Wade, Kelo, and Obamacare. Their many decisions using the Commerce Clause as justification. And using the 14th amendment to apply their decisions to the states.

Yet you persist in thinking that any future court decision will be favorable to your viewpoint. Who's the idiot, idiot?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-06   9:51:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite (#25)

Only an idiot would think that ruling would prevent 5 liberal justices from concluding second amendment protection does not include an AR-15 or an AK-47.

Maybe that's what he actually wants.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-06   10:04:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Roscoe (#26)

"Maybe that's what he actually wants."

I think the gun grabbers are switching tactics. Rather than trying to ban guns (which just isn't going to happen), they're focusing on the mental health of gun owners. I mean, people have to be mentally ill to shoot other people, right?

Oh, they're starting with reasonable demands -- adjudicated mentally ill or committed involuntarily to a mental institution. And people nod their heads and say, "Sure. That's reasonable."

But we all know about liberal incrementalism. We've all seen how the laws have expanded concerning smoking, BAC levels, the definition of rape, the definition of sexual harassment, the definition of racism, and on and on.

So, I would not be surprised one day to see the law include people who were diagnosed with ADD when they were 8-years- old. Ar anyone who is (or was) depressed. Or anyone who voted for Trump.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-06   10:33:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: misterwhite (#29)

So, I would not be surprised one day to see the law include people who were diagnosed with ADD when they were 8-years- old.

"It’s sad to see the Democrats take a horrific crime and try to use it as an excuse not to go after people with serious mental illness..." --Ted Cruz

Cruz would sign the law. The midwit might even try to add it to the rewrite of the Bill of the of Rights he dreams about.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-06   11:17:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Roscoe (#37)

The full quote makes more sense: "It's sad to see the Democrats take a horrific crime and try to use it as an excuse -- not to go after people with serious mental illness or people who are repeat felons or criminals -- but instead try to use it as an excuse to take away Second Amendment rights of law abiding citizens," he told a group of reporters."

Your conclusion, however, is still spot on. The term "mental illness" can be defined as loosely as people want.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-06   11:28:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#40. To: misterwhite (#39)

The term "mental illness" can be defined as loosely as people want.

As Cruz knows.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-06 11:31:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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