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Title: Trump team says he'll ditch Thursday's GOP debate (afraid to face Megyn Kelly)
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URL Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/ ... thursdays-gop-debate/79371610/
Published: Jan 26, 2016
Author: David Jackson
Post Date: 2016-01-26 19:51:08 by Hondo68
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Views: 21012
Comments: 65
Donald Trump speaks during a campaign stop at Farmington High School on Jan. 25, 2016, in Farmington, N.H. (Photo: John Minchillo, AP)
Protesting "wise guy" comments from Fox News about his criticism of anchor Megyn Kelly, Donald Trump said Tuesday he likely won't participate in Thursday's Republican debate -- and his campaign manager said later the GOP front-runner would in fact skip the event.
"Most likely, I'm not going to be doing the debate," Trump told reporters before a rally in Marshalltown, Iowa.
Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, later told reporters that the businessman would definitely not participate, and said it is not a matter of negotiation.
Trump has threatened a debate boycott all week, describing Kelly as a "lightweight" who is biased against him.
Trump's criticism led to pushback from Fox News, including one statement from the network earlier Tuesday that drew the businessman's ire: “We learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president — a nefarious source tells us that Trump has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to those meetings.”
Citing that statement, Trump said that Fox is "playing games" and that he will do an event for wounded warriors instead of Thursday's debate.
Trump has attacked Kelly since an Aug. 6 debate in which the Fox anchor asked him about statements demeaning women. Kelly has declined to respond to Trump's attacks, but Fox has defended her and insisted she be part of the debate.
Earlier this week, Fox said: "Megyn Kelly has no conflict of interest. Donald Trump is just trying to build up the audience for Thursday's debate, for which we thank him."
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Trump team says he'll ditch Thursday's GOP debate (afraid to face Megyn Kelly)
Without Trump there would be no debates but only an array of politicians hiding in a cloud of evasive dialogue spiced with occasional wit and trying to pretend there's a real difference among them.
Kelly hit Thrump with a question containing unproven presupositions and it pissed Trump off. It's the old, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" trick in which the question is really an accusation. Trump is not very well schooled in the techniques of advocacy or he would have handled it much better. He's a business man and builder, not a lawyer or theologin.
#2. To: rlk (#1)
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#3. To: All (#1)
Trump is not very well schooled in the techniques of advocacy or he would have handled it much better.
He reacted to the attack upon him immediately instead of refuting the fallacy of logic and THEN counter-attacking.
#4. To: hondo68 (#2)
A 25MB anigif? Really?
#5. To: TooConservative (#4)
A 25MB anigif? Really?
I don't know. It's working well for me.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#6. To: hondo68 (#2)
LOL some Aussie on another site has this as his tagline.
For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
#7. To: redleghunter (#6)
There have been too many debates already. By deciding to put Megan Kelly back there after the last fiasco, Fox News was planning a Pearl Harbor. Trump avoided that by refusing to play ball.
So now Fox will have an unwatched debate, and the debating seasons is effectively ended.
Voting starts shortly in Iowa, and Trump is going to win that. And that will be that.
By going after the future President, NR and Fox have damaged their brands to a degree that they will never fully recover. What works against a dependent dwarf does not work against Trump.
#8. To: Vicomte13 (#7)
the debating season is effectively ended
But the smearing season continues and the elitists must derail Trump.
#9. To: rlk (#8)
But the smearing season continues and the elitists must derail Trump.
They WANT to derail Trump, but they can't.
They can't because there are too many of us middle class and working class people who have been right royally screwed by Republican economics and Democrat racialism.
Trump has been in our living rooms with us for two decades. We know him. We like him. We like the fact that they DON'T like him. It gives us hope.
So, we're going to put him in office.
And then the question will be whether or not he really is what he appears to be. If he is, his policies will start to build back up the middle class and working class. He will get the money to do it from the elites, involuntarily, through taxation and regulation.
So the elites are fighting him frantically because they recognize that he is going to really hurt them when he gets power. They will have less money, less power, less influence.
We haven't had a reversal like this since FDR won the Election of 1932, when the people completely repudiated the Republican Establishment. This time, the people are repudiating BOTH Establishments.
The good news (for Republicans) is that Trump is running as a Republican, so as the future unfolds, decades in the future they will get the electoral benefit of Trump's success. But for now, they are standing with their old moneymen, even as a rip-tide of the people changes the rules of the game.
Trump is going to cut the nuts off the elite once he wins, by targeting their source of power: their money.
#10. To: hondo68 (#0)
Cruz has challenged Ducking Donald to a one on one debate . But I don't think Trump will do it . If he can't handle Megyn Kelly.................
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#11. To: tomder55 (#10)
Cruz has challenged Ducking Donald to a one on one debate . But I don't think Trump will do it . If he can't handle Megyn Kelly.................
He won't do it, because there is nothing in it for him.
Cruz was a college debate team guy. He debates well.
The Presidency isn't about debating, it's about execution.
Trump is a master at execution.
One aspect of being an executive is to know when to cut off the jaw-jaw, because it serves no positive purpose.
There have already been a lot of debates. Everybody already knows the differences between Trump and Cruz. Trump will win in Iowa, and that will be the end of Cruz, so why go debate Cruz in a one-on-one format, where Cruz will look great, because he's been a debate team guy all his life?
No reason to.
The big "Republican Debate" was sort of an obligatory thing, but then Fox decided to load it up with "get Trump" stuff, including Megan Kelly. Megan Kelly was out of line in the first debate. There is no reason at all that Trump should put up with her again.
There is no advantage to Donald in going in there to get shit on by a bitch who has already made it clear she hates him, and who will control the questions and microphone. So he wisely decided "Nope", and that's that.
You have already made up your mind on Trump - you don't like him. Since he will be the Republican nominee, you're going to have the choice between voting for a man you've spent months hating, voting for Hillary or for Sanders, or staying home.
#12. To: Vicomte13 (#7)
There have been too many debates already. By deciding to put Megan Kelly back there after the last fiasco, Fox News was planning a Pearl Harbor. Trump avoided that by refusing to play ball.So now Fox will have an unwatched debate, and the debating seasons is effectively ended.
Voting starts shortly in Iowa, and Trump is going to win that. And that will be that.
By going after the future President, NR and Fox have damaged their brands to a degree that they will never fully recover. What works against a dependent dwarf does not work against Trump.
Trump has thrown down the gauntlet. He is basically saying (as you imply above) Megan Kelly can have the worst ratings of her career by not Trump not attending. It was a business and marketing lesson from him. It will probably turn out to be a good one for him and bad decision by Fox.
As it turns out he will instead raise money for wounded veterans. Good move and I do truly believe his heart is in supporting veterans.
Now I would like to hear why he is truly Pro-Life and like the other candidates where he believes life begins and his views on personhood. This is very important.
For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
#13. To: rlk, Vicomte13, TooConservative (#8)
the debating season is effectively endedBut the smearing season continues and the elitists must derail Trump.
Trump effectively squelched any opposition to him leading up to the Iowa vote. His polling firms must think he has it in the bag or at least will get enough delegates to make it a wash (no one else gets more than he does).
So now Cruz will be the target.
In some ways Trump did Cruz a favor as Cruz will mop the floor with JEB! and that little annoyance will be gone.
This also gives more time for Rubio to engage JEB! and Christie.
Finally, with Trump not there I believe Rand will get a strong voice in the debate as he can be very engaging when not shouted down.
For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
#14. To: tomder55 (#10)
Cruz has challenged Ducking Donald to a one on one debate . But I don't think Trump will do it .
Saw that. I agree he won't do it. He is ahead and has no reason to do it.
For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
#15. To: redleghunter (#13)
So now Cruz will be the target.
I think all the also-rans will hit on Cruz. And Cruz and all the also-rans will also hit on Trump repeatedly.
I think !Jeb¡ will take more shots at Rubio since he's been spending a million a day running negative ads against Marco.
You can bet every campaign is strategizing how to take advantage of Trump's absence. And also what they will do if Trump flies in at the last minute.
Trump might be planning to come but trying to throw the others off their debate game or try to gin up his supporters with a last-minute appearance ("Well, all my friends on Twitter said I should debate so, being the great man that I am, I felt compelled to satisfy their desire to see me in this puny debate.").
#16. To: hondo68 (#0)
"Trump team says he'll ditch Thursday's GOP debate(afraid to face Megyn Kelly)"
Save the comments for the comment section.
#17. To: TooConservative (#15)
And also what they will do if Trump flies in at the last minute.Trump might be planning to come but trying to throw the others off their debate game or try to gin up his supporters with a last-minute appearance ("Well, all my friends on Twitter said I should debate so, being the great man that I am, I felt compelled to satisfy their desire to see me in this puny debate.").
If he does show last minute it means he snubs the wounded Vet event he has planned. If he planned such an event yet.
This little tidbit I found looking for the Trump wounded Vet event (could not find yet):
Donald J. Trump Endorsed by Maricopa County Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio
DONALD J. TRUMP ENDORSED BY MARICOPA COUNTY ARIZONA SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO
(New York, NY) January 26th, 2016 – Today Donald J. Trump received Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s endorsement. The Sheriff is well known for his hard-line stance on illegal immigration. Sheriff Arpaio joined Mr. Trump at his rally in Marshalltown, Iowa to voice his support less than one week before the Iowa Caucus.
For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
#18. To: misterwhite (#16)
I wonder. When Trump dumped Megyn, did he leave cab fare on the night stand?
#19. To: redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#12)
Trump has thrown down the gauntlet. He is basically saying (as you imply above) Megan Kelly can have the worst ratings of her career by not Trump not attending. It was a business and marketing lesson from him. It will probably turn out to be a good one for him and bad decision by Fox.
Don't think so . Fox is sticking to a principled decision that he can't dictate terms of an interview/debate. What next ? The candidates submitting the questions they answer? I know the DNC gets away with it .
Trump is also disengenuous about FOX. He is on Greta ,O'Reilly ,and Hannity ad- nausium. There is no basis to the charge that he is being unfairly treated . His position should be the same one that Newt took ;challenge the question's legitimacy and redirect . Let's face facts . Trump has everything to lose and nothing to gain ;especially if he has a bad performance. That is the real reason he's bugging out .
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#20. To: hondo68 (#0)
Trump gave Fox fair warning. Plus, Megyn Kelly already did one debate. Give someone else a chance.
But by intentionally putting her in, Fox is making the news, not reporting it. A big no-no, very unprofessional, and not a good business decision -- they're going to lose millions in advertising.
Once again, Trump dominates the news cycle. He's afraid? Hah! He's send a huuuge message to the MSM -- Don't F**k With Me.
#21. To: tomder55 (#19)
Let's face facts . Trump has everything to lose and nothing to gain ;especially if he has a bad performance. That is the real reason he's bugging out .
If Megan Kelly were not the inquistor, Trump would be there.
Let's face facts: it is about who is to be master, that is all.
#22. To: Vicomte13 (#21)
Let's face facts: it is about who is to be master, that is all.
said Humpty Dumpty
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#23. To: tomder55 (#19)
Fox is sticking to a principled decision
Biased is principled?
#24. To: misterwhite (#16)
afraid to face Megyn Kelly
Save the comments for the comment section.
Save your orders for Burger King.
Tronal Dump is afraid to face Rand Paul too!
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#25. To: Roscoe (#23)
Biased is principled?
The rest of the network is a bunch of Trump cheerleaders . Give me a break ! Kelly brings a little balance.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#26. To: Vicomte13 (#21)
Let's face facts: it is about who is to be master, that is all.
Yep. Trump stands out as the only Alpha male among a group of otherwise cuckservative losers.
#27. To: tomder55 (#25)
You've switched from Fox being "principled" to needing more anti-Trump bias.
Those are some interesting principles you've got there.
#28. To: tomder55 (#19)
"Fox is sticking to a principled decision that he can't dictate terms of an interview/debate."
Fox didn't need to have Megyn Kelly do the debate. This was a ratings move -- Watch Megyn Kelly vs. The Donald, Round II.
"There is no basis to the charge that he is being unfairly treated.
He said Megyn Kelly was biased, as evidenced by her first question in the last debate alluding to some War on Women by Trump. And he's right.
"Trump has everything to lose and nothing to gain ;especially if he has a bad performance. That is the real reason he's bugging out."
True. Making this a smart move. Besides, these "debates" are a joke. All they are is a big gotcha game with the MSM then deciding who "won" and who "lost".
#29. To: Roscoe (#26)
"Yep. Trump stands out as the only Alpha male among a group of otherwise cuckservative losers."
Man. Was that a shot across the bow to all the other "journalists"?
#30. To: misterwhite (#28)
Making this a smart move.
As long as Trump keeps his doors securely locked at night.
#31. To: tomder55 (#22)
said Humpty Dumpty
Nice catch.
And the question is who is Humpty Dumpty here, Trump, or Fox and the Republican Establishment.
I will give you the answer before the voting: The Republican Establishment is going to lose, and Fox has jumped the shark.
Remember "Mr Green, I paid for this microphone!" Fox is the new Mr. Green.
#32. To: tomder55 (#19)
His position should be the same one that Newt took
How liberal of you to tell him what his position should be.
For the record Reagan skipped the final debate before Iowa.
#33. To: A K A Stone (#32)
For the record Reagan skipped the final debate before Iowa.
You just played the trump card.
#34. To: redleghunter (#17)
DONALD J. TRUMP ENDORSED BY MARICOPA COUNTY ARIZONA SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO
Wheeeeeeeee!
#35. To: A K A Stone (#32)
How liberal of you to tell him what his position should be.
just giving some friendly advice.
This is how it's done .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj7OHEnz9KE
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#36. To: tomder55 (#25)
Tomder,
You dislike Trump. Fair enough.
If he's the nominee, will you vote for him?
If you won't, will you vote for the Democrat? Third Party? Or just not vote?
#37. To: tomder55 (#35)
just giving some friendly advice.This is how it's done .
Newt lost.
Trump is going to win.
Trump is doing it right. Newt should have had the self-knowledge to never run for President in the first place.
#38. To: Roscoe, A K A Stone (#33)
For the record Reagan skipped the final debate before Iowa. You just played the trump card.
maybe they can leave an empty chair ala Clint Eastwood. Yes others have skipped debates too. Are you saying that Reagan skipped it because he was afraid of the questioner ?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#39. To: Vicomte13 (#36)
If he's the nominee, will you vote for him?
over Evita or Bolshevik Bernie ? Of course I will .
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#40. To: tomder55 (#38)
Are you saying that Reagan skipped it because he was afraid of the questioner ?
Are you begging the question?
#41. To: rlk (#3)
He reacted to the attack upon him immediately instead of refuting the fallacy of logic and THEN counter-attacking.
His polling success suggests that he handled it perfectly.
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