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Title: Trump at Liberty University: There’s a verse in “Two Corinthians” that really says it all
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HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/ ... hians-that-really-says-it-all/
Published: Jan 18, 2016
Author: allahpundit
Post Date: 2016-01-20 05:24:45 by Tooconservative
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Views: 1040
Comments: 8
A lot of guffawing about this by reporters on social media today. Mollie Hemingway wonders: Who pulled them aside and told them it’s supposed to be “Second Corinthians”? — Mollie (@MZHemingway) January 18, 2016 Readers grumble that I’m too negative about Trump so let me pay him a sincere compliment. I admire that he has the stones to go into a place like Liberty and not even make a pretense of being a devout believer. You could dismiss what he said last summer about not being sure if he’s ever asked God for forgiveness as an amateur mistake; it’s an amazing mistake for someone in a GOP primary to make, amateur or not, but a first-time candidate who’s running as the opposite of a scripted politician gets a little leeway. Six months later, Trump is more polished in interviews and at the debates, and obviously by design — he wants voters to get more comfortable with imagining him as president. But still, he seems to have made no apparent effort to polish his handle on Christian priorities even though he’s competing with an ostentatiously evangelical candidate in Iowa. Why is that? How is it that Trump hasn’t brought in an advisor to teach him how to talk to evangelicals in a way that suggests he shares their worldview? How is it he’s still struggling with questions about divine forgiveness? How is it he can’t spare a hundred grand to have one guy on call who can vet his speeches in advance and say, “Okay, you know that ‘2 Corinthians’ is a written reference to ‘Second Corinthians,’ right?” Or maybe he does have that guy and the guy simply assumed that Trump knew that because, really, who wouldn’t know that who’s been to church a few times as a kid? I think Trump’s approach to all of this is “what you see is what you get.” He’ll pander half-heartedly, like calling the Bible the only book better than “The Art of the Deal,” but even that operates more as a self-deprecating joke on Trump’s own narcissistic grandeur than as a serious expression of belief. When it comes to evangelicals, he seems resolved not to go out of his way to suggest he feels a sense of piety when he obviously doesn’t. I respect that. Frankly, I wish more politicians would follow his example. And given how well he’s doing in Iowa, a lot of Christian voters seem to respect it too. It’s amazing to me that he’s competitive with Cruz among the wider GOP electorate given how glib his professions of faith are, but that just goes to show that “values voters” aren’t the one- or two-issue voters they’re always stereotyped as being. Plenty of evangelicals, I’d guess, prefer Trump because they think he’d deliver the biggest possible change to D.C. despite the fact that they likely have more confidence in Cruz and Marco Rubio on social issues. They’re treating politics as politics, not as a morals test. You’d think they’d get more credit from their critics on the left for that. Plus, why should evangelical voters hold Trump’s past moral failings against him when prominent Christian politicians obviously don’t? Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, the most outspoken Christian pols in the field, are in a contest lately to see who can speak more warmly of Donald Trump at the expense of their evangelical rival, Ted Cruz: “You look at some of the greatest conservatives, many of them changed positions over the years,” Santorum added… Santorum took a more skeptical line when asked about Cruz. “You’ve seen a shift,” he said. “If you’re going out there as he is and saying ‘Trust Ted’ and ‘I am the guy you can trust all the time because I’m not going to waver’ [but] then you have a whole laundry list of wavers and changes, then I think it’s fair game.” Lifelong practicing Christian Ted Cruz is a shifty flip-flopper but longtime Democratic donor and Hillary pal Donald Trump should be welcomed into the conservative fold? Good to know that Rick Santorum’s principles don’t depend on electoral strategy. If you want to see just how well received Trump is by some prominent evangelicals, read some of the highlights from the introduction that Jerry Falwell Jr gave him before today’s convocation speech. Quote: “In my opinion, Donald Trump lives a life of loving and helping others as Jesus taught in the great commandment.” Russell Moore, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, was agog: — Russell Moore (@drmoore) January 18, 2016 — Russell Moore (@drmoore) January 18, 2016 — Russell Moore (@drmoore) January 18, 2016 Here’s the “Two Corinthians” part along with today’s speech in full. Mildly getting kick out of media, who (at best) give a pitch perfect impression of Biblical illiteracy, mocking Trump for 'Two Corinthians.' “Past is prologue and if you look at someone’s past, it’s legit,” Santorum began, but added, “people change and that’s a good thing. I want to encourage everybody to be more conservative.” Absolutely unbelievable. https://t.co/fDTD5LBWNt Trading in the gospel of Jesus Christ for political power is not liberty but slavery. Evangelicals can love a golden calf, as long as Aaron promises to make Mexico pay for it.
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Much ado about nothing. Most of the press could care less about the Gospel except when they can divine socialist policies from the scriptures . Then they cherry pick the quote and give us a 'what would Jesus do ? ' meme .
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#2. To: tomder55 (#1)
Most of the press could care less about the Gospel except when they can divine socialist policies from the scriptures .
Yeah but the Iowa GOP has a lot of evangelical voters. I don't see how Trump comes off as anything but incredibly ignorant of basic Christian ideas and conventions. Not just this but "never prayed for forgiveness in my life", going on about being such a raging Presbyterian and then going off on Christmas Eve to "eat the little cookie" at a Florida Epicopalian church.
The question is whether Trump has even the vaguest idea of what Christianity is.
And that Falwell endorsement is truly cringe-inducing.
Palin shrieking about "kicking ISIS's ass" just sounds demented and crude.
#3. To: TooConservative (#0)
Two Corinthians Walk into a Bar...
Two Corinthians walk into a bar
And say to the barkeep, "We come from afar.
We're looking for two Thessalonian chaps
And wondering if you might have seen them perhaps."
"Maybe I have and maybe I've not.
I'll have to reflect and give it some thought.
In the meantime, what'll it be:
Whisky or rye or a glass of chablis?"
"Red wine with some bread--no, grape juice and a wafer.
Keeping it Baptist is bound to be safer."
"Who's this?" said the other. "Am I seeing things?
Is this not Two Samuels with his friend Two Kings?
Then comes Two Chronicles and after these
Two Peters, Three Johns, and Two Timothys."
"I'm calling the cops," said the man tending bar.
I don't give a damn who you guys say you are.
You're pulling my leg or you're certifiable.
Every man jack of you comes from the Bible."
We have just entered the dread Twilight Zone:
Another dimension, where minds are blown;
It's all the fault of that man on the stump,
That Bible bungler, Donald J. Trump.
#4. To: Willie Green (#3)
I guess it's witty enough, as wordplay goes.
#5. To: TooConservative (#2)
Yeah but the Iowa GOP has a lot of evangelical voters. I don't see how Trump comes off as anything but incredibly ignorant of basic Christian ideas and conventions. Not just this but "never prayed for forgiveness in my life", going on about being such a raging Presbyterian and then going off on Christmas Eve to "eat the little cookie" at a Florida Epicopalian church.The question is whether Trump has even the vaguest idea of what Christianity is.
And that Falwell endorsement is truly cringe-inducing.
Palin shrieking about "kicking ISIS's ass" just sounds demented and crude
Best guess is that Palin's making a last ditch play for relevence. Again very disappointing . I see this as the last dagger into the Tea Party movement . Both Cruz and Nikki Haley got her help to achieve their positions .
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
#6. To: TooConservative (#0)
"There’s a verse in “Two Corinthians” that really says it all"
Well, there's our press for you. Ignore everything else and focus on the gaffe.
But when Obama says "corpse-man" (twice!) in a speech ... crickets.
#7. To: misterwhite (#6) (Edited)
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If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
#8. To: BorisY, Willie Green, jumpin socialists (#7)
Feel
the
Bern!
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron PaulTop • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
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