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Title: We're All Ruth Bader Ginsburg Now
Source: Ann Coulter
URL Source: http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-01-13.html#read_more
Published: Jan 13, 2016
Author: Ann Coulter
Post Date: 2016-01-16 13:09:03 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 1130
Comments: 11

If Ted Cruz is a "natural born citizen," eligible to be president, what was all the fuss about Obama being born in Kenya? No one disputed that Obama's mother was a U.S. Citizen.

Cruz was born in Canada to an American citizen mother and an alien father. If he's eligible to be president, then so was Obama -- even if he'd been born in Kenya.

As with most constitutional arguments, whether or not Cruz is a "natural born citizen" under the Constitution apparently comes down to whether you support Cruz for president. (Or, for liberals, whether you think U.S. citizenship is a worthless thing that ought to be extended to every person on the planet.)

Forgetting how corrupt constitutional analysis had become, I briefly believed lawyers who assured me that Cruz was a “natural born citizen,” eligible to run for president, and “corrected” myself in a single tweet three years ago. That tweet’s made quite a stir!

But the Constitution is the Constitution, and Cruz is not a "natural born citizen." (Never let the kids at Kinko's do your legal research.)

I said so long before Trump declared for president, back when Cruz was still my guy -- as lovingly captured on tape last April by the Obama birthers (www.birtherreport.com/2015/04/shocker-anti-birther-ann-coulter-goes.html).

The Constitution says: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

The phrase "natural born" is a legal term of art that goes back to Calvin's Case, in the British Court of Common Pleas, reported in 1608 by Lord Coke. The question before the court was whether Calvin -- a Scot -- could own land in England, a right permitted only to English subjects.

The court ruled that because Calvin was born after the king of Scotland had added England to his realm, Calvin was born to the king of both realms and had all the rights of an Englishman.

It was the king on whose soil he was born and to whom he owed his allegiance -- not his Scottish blood -- that determined his rights.

Not everyone born on the king's soil would be "natural born." Calvin's Case expressly notes that the children of aliens who were not obedient to the king could never be "natural" subjects, despite being "born upon his soil." (Sorry, anchor babies.) However, they still qualified for food stamps, Section 8 housing and Medicaid.

Relying on English common law for the meaning of "natural born," the U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that "the acquisition of citizenship by being born abroad of American parents" was left to Congress "in the exercise of the power conferred by the Constitution to establish an uniform rule of naturalization." (U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898); Rogers v. Bellei (1971); Zivotofsky v. Kerry (2015), Justice Thomas, concurring.)

A child born to American parents outside of U.S. territory may be a citizen the moment he is born -- but only by "naturalization," i.e., by laws passed by Congress. If Congress has to write a law to make you a citizen, you're not "natural born."

Because Cruz's citizenship comes from the law, not the Constitution, as late as 1934, he would not have had "any conceivable claim to United States citizenship. For more than a century and a half, no statute was of assistance. Maternal citizenship afforded no benefit" -- as the Supreme Court put it in Rogers v. Bellei (1971).

That would make no sense if Cruz were a "natural born citizen" under the Constitution. But as the Bellei Court said: "Persons not born in the United States acquire citizenship by birth only as provided by Acts of Congress." (There's an exception for the children of ambassadors, but Cruz wasn't that.)

So Cruz was born a citizen -- under our naturalization laws -- but is not a "natural born citizen" -- under our Constitution.

I keep reading the arguments in favor of Cruz being a "natural born citizen," but don't see any history, any Blackstone Commentaries, any common law or Supreme Court cases.

One frequently cited article in the Harvard Law Review cites the fact that the "U.S. Senate unanimously agreed that Senator McCain was eligible for the presidency."

Sen. McCain probably was natural born -- but only because he was born on a U.S. military base to a four-star admiral in the U.S. Navy, and thus is analogous to the ambassador's child described in Calvin's Case. (Sorry, McCain haters -- oh wait! That's me!)

But a Senate resolution -- even one passed "unanimously"! -- is utterly irrelevant. As Justice Antonin Scalia has said, the court's job is to ascertain "objective law," not determine "some kind of social consensus," which I believe is the job of the judges on "American Idol." (On the other hand, if Congress has the power to define constitutional terms, how about a resolution declaring that The New York Times is not "speech"?)

Mostly, the Cruz partisans confuse being born a citizen with being a "natural born citizen." This is constitutional illiteracy. "Natural born" is a legal term of art. A retired judge who plays a lot of tennis is an active judge, but not an "active judge" in legal terminology.

The best argument for Cruz being a natural born citizen is that in 1790, the first Congress passed a law that provided: "The children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."

Except the problem is, neither that Congress, nor any Congress for the next 200 years or so, actually treated them like natural born citizens.

As the Supreme Court said in Bellei, a case about the citizenship of a man born in Italy to a native-born American mother and an Italian father: "It is evident that Congress felt itself possessed of the power to grant citizenship to the foreign born and at the same time to impose qualifications and conditions for that citizenship."

The most plausible interpretation of the 1790 statute is that Congress was saying the rights of naturalized citizens born abroad are the same as the rights of the natural born -- except the part about not being natural born.

Does that sound odd? It happens to be exactly what the Supreme Court said in Schneider v. Rusk (1964): "We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity, and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the 'natural born' citizen is eligible to be president. (Article II, Section 1)"

Unless we're all Ruth Bader Ginsburg now, and interpret the Constitution to mean whatever we want it to mean, Cruz is not a "natural born citizen."

Take it like a man, Ted -- and maybe President Trump will make you attorney general.

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#1. To: cranky (#0)

His mom is American, but his daddy is Goldman Sachs.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-01-16   13:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: cranky (#0)

As Justice Antonin Scalia has said, the court's job is to ascertain "objective law," not determine "some kind of social consensus," which I believe is the job of the judges on "American Idol."

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BorisY  posted on  2016-01-16   13:24:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: cranky (#0)

8 U.S. Code § 1401 . Go ahead and make a legal challenge to the law ;a law that with a few modifications dates back to the 1st Congress of the United States . These challenges to individual candidates is political bs. The law is plain.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2016-01-16   14:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: cranky (#0)

If Ted Cruz is a "natural born citizen," eligible to be president, what was all the fuss about Obama being born in Kenya? No one disputed that Obama's mother was a U.S. Citizen.

Cruz was born in Canada to an American citizen mother and an alien father. If he's eligible to be president, then so was Obama -- even if he'd been born in Kenya.

Not necessarily.

The law changed between the time of Obama's birth and the time of Cruz's.

When Obama was born, the law was such that if he was born abroad of a foreign father, his mother was too young to convey him citizenship. He would have to be naturalized, which is the opposite of natural born.

Therefore, getting Obama's birth registered in Hawaii was important for a lot of reasons, even if he wasn't really born there. It was the difference between the boy being an American citizen growing up, and eligible for those things that Americans were eligible for but foreigners were not, or being a foreign citizen being raised by US parents. A naturalization would have been later required.

His mother and grandparents had a strong interest in registering him as born in Hawaii even if he wasn't, and in that day before computers and before anybody really cared on a backwater American island at the edge of plane travel, to which only rich or adventurous Americans went (Florida was still relatively novel and exciting then - Hawaii was the other side of the world. I've been on hundreds of planes, but most people back then took maybe one plane ride their whole lives, if that.)

They put an article in the paper and said he was born at Kapiolani. There's no record of it because he was born in Kenya, but there was nobody cross-checking those things, or caring, and everything isn't stored. Most of that paper is lost.

If he were born in Hawaii, he was an American at birth by the 14th Amendment.

This is why, when Obama was younger, writing books, running for office in Chicago, he (truthfully) publicized his Kenyan birth. It made him interesting. But it was why, when he ran for President, all of a sudden the truth regarding his birth was hidden down the memory hole. Because whether or not he was an American at birth becomes an issue for a kid born in Kenya in 1961. And the answer under the law of 1961 was NO.

The law changed a few years later. So when Cruz was born of an American in Canada, he certainly was an American citizen from birth. There was no question, no age qualification, none of the reasons that Obama was NOT born an American.

The real legal question is nuanced, which is why it never gets presented properly. The REAL legal issue is two part:

Assuming Kenyan birth, Obama was not born a citizen. So

(a) did the later law change retroactively make him a citizen?

If it did not, he's STILL not a citizen because he was never naturalized...and therefore he will assert his Hawaiian birth for the rest of his life.

But assuming that the law change DID make him a citizen retroactively

(b) is the retroactive granting of citizenship by effect of law change a naturalization by fact of law (which would mean he's not native born), or does the retroactive effect include granting natural born status all the way back to birth?

The better answer to these questions is that he was born in Kenya (we can test this. That Kenyan birth certificate that was produced has a footprint on it of the baby. Footprints do not change. If that footprint is baby Barack, then Barack Obama is proven to have been born in Kenya, and was not a citizen at the time of his birth).

And then we need a judicial decision or an act of Congress that says whether retroactive application of law that changes citizenship status creates natural born status.

The answer to that question SHOULD BE "No", because if it is yes, then Congress can simply GRANT somebody natural born status so he can run for President, and that would in effect be a Constitutional change without an amendment.

These are the real legal issues here. But men in the political mode are generally not interested in actually following the legal logic. They're results oriented.

Truth is, Cruz certainly was an American citizen at birth, no matter where he was born, because of the citizenship of his mother and the American law at the time, which granted birth citizenship.

Truth also is that the question of whether or not birth citizenship means natural born under the Constitution is not answered unless Congress passes a law making that clear and the Supreme Court doesn't overturn the law, or the Supreme Court rules that it does and Congress doesn't move to strike down the Supreme Court with legislation.

Those are the legal issues. The factual issue of where Obama was really born matters a great deal, which is why the "Kenyan-born" author and scholar ceased to be Kenyan born when he was running for office: it exposed him to a vulnerability he didn't know he had, and that actually as of yet still has no answer.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-01-16   14:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#4)

When Obama was born, the law was such that if he was born abroad of a foreign father, his mother was too young to convey him citizenship. He would have to be naturalized, which is the opposite of natural born.

"If Congress has to write a law to make you a citizen, you're not "natural born." about sums it up for me.

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cranky  posted on  2016-01-16   15:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: cranky (#0)

"natural born citizen"

Why does America require the question, anyway? We have over 300 million citizens living and breathing as naturally born US patriots, yet ... a few POTUS candidates professionally available for becoming a US POTUS are squarely in the publick eye because they were born elsewhere.

What happened to America that made the RWAL issues vanish into this sort of discussion?

buckeroo  posted on  2016-01-16   15:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo (#6)

Why does America require the question, anyway?

To ensure anyone serving as POTUS owes no allegiance to any foreign sovereignty.

I remember people objecting to a Kennedy presidency because Kennedy was a Catholic and some Americans thought that counted as an allegiance to a foreign head of state.

There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't

cranky  posted on  2016-01-16   18:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: cranky (#7)

To ensure anyone serving as POTUS owes no allegiance to any foreign sovereignty.

I don't know if you or anyone else has noticed ... but the world is dominated by global corporatists that have no allegiance to anyone but themselves.

This "natural born citizen" stuff is not central to any serious political discussion other than to chase after BS or other hot aire.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-01-16   20:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeroo (#8)

I don't know if you or anyone else has noticed ... but the world is dominated by global corporatists that have no allegiance to anyone but themselves.

So?

What has one to do with the other?

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cranky  posted on  2016-01-16   20:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: cranky (#9)

What has one to do with the other?

The erasure of national sovereignty and obvious or otherwise borders that demarck one nation with another. For America, NAFTA is a good example; another example is France with respect to the European Union.

Of course, the WTO has increased power over US borders, too. Let us not forget the UN interfering with our individual rights and liberties.

Nope, any POTUS must appease these international trade agreements before John Q. Citizen is even given a glance for security or survival.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-01-16   20:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: cranky (#0)

As with most constitutional arguments

Why do people keep bringing up this silly Constitution, anyway? It's oh so 1790's

Just suffice it to say that "The Constitution" is whatever the democrat party/mainstream media say it is, and leave it at that.

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . "

~Psalm 33:12a

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2016-01-17   9:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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