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WORLD WAR III Title: Daesh attacks Indonesia Daesh has taken responsibility for an attack in Indonesia that mirrored the attack on Paris http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35312794 Indonesia has experienced ongoing islamist militant attacks and this most recent one mirrors the attack in Paris. The tactic appears to be to create a running gun battle and use suicide attacks causing maximum disruption. The nation however, unlike France, has not gone into lockdown dispite indonesian militants swearing allegience to Daesh. Unlike France, this attack was anticipated as intelligence had suggested an attack was planned
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Daesh ....you mean Islamic state ;jihadists ;you know ,from the religion of pieces .. Where there are jihadists ,murder and mayhem follows. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3398712/explosions-heavy-gunfire-heard- central-Jakarta.html Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #2. To: tomder55 (#1) Daesh ....you mean Islamic state Is that a cop out word? You know they aren't real Muslims real Muslims are peaceful. So we have to call them Daesh?
#3. To: A K A Stone (#2) Is that a cop out word? You know they aren't real Muslims real Muslims are peaceful. So we have to call them Daesh? It's political leaders like Tony Abbott being too clever .NBC says that Daesh is an acronym for the Arabic phrase al-Dawla al-Islamiya al-Iraq al-Sham (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant);another word for ISIS ...But one that ISIS jihadists do not favour because it is similar to the Arabic words 'Daes'(one who crushes something underfoot) and 'Dahes'(one who sows discord),it can also mean "a bigot." . http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/paris-attacks-what-does-daesh-mean- why-does-isis-hate-n463551 So the people who use the word Daesh thinks they are insulting and pissing off the jihadists . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #4. To: A K A Stone (#2) You know they aren't real Muslims That's true. Real Muslims in America are identified as Dim voters that "real republicans" like Lady Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley want to vote for them. We are sooo screwed. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #5. To: sneakypete (#4) You know they aren't real Muslims That's true. Real Muslims in America are identified as Dim voters that "real republicans" like Lady Lindsey Graham and Nikki Haley want to vote for them. You quoted me out of context. But whatever.
#6. To: A K A Stone (#5) You quoted me out of context. No,I just quoted you. I even added to the point you were making by explaining how our political classes were selling out America for votes. What's your problem with this? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them. #7. To: tomder55 (#1) (Edited) Daesh ....you mean Islamic state By now Tom you would be aware that many including leaders refer to the jihadists in Iraq and Syria as Daesh because the title although an acromyn is considered insulting. Firstly because it doesn't include recognition of their so called "state" and secondly because it sounds like arabic words that speak of a degraded nature. There are many places in the world where this organisation is a problem and so it is appropriate not to refer to just the ME. If the only comment you have is to question the name used then it demonstrates you have lost yourself in the mire of the electoral cycle and forgotten there are real issues in the world
#8. To: paraclete (#7) If the only comment you have is to question the name used then it demonstrates you have lost yourself in the mire of the electoral cycle and forgotten there are real issues in the world well then maybe you can elaborate about your cheap shot at the French . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #9. To: tomder55 (#8) (Edited) maybe you can elaborate about your cheap shot at the French . It wasn't a cheap shot but a statement of fact. The indonesians adopted a business as usual approach and carried on thier investigations without disrupting the country, while the French went into high security lock down mode. I expect this is because the Indonesians have greater recent experience in dealing with jihadists. They know there isn't a jihadist behind every door even though they probably have a higher jihadist population than the whole of Europe. They certainly have had many attacks in recent years and it isn't so long ago they were fighting a sectarian war in Aceh. The French can tend to over dramatise, they made great press about what they would do in the middle east but it came down to a few raids
#10. To: paraclete (#9) Here is a cheap shot : “In today’s world, even a handful of terrorists who place no value on human life, including their own, can do a lot of damage. But as we focus on destroying ISIL, over-the-top claims that this is World War III just play into their hands,” (the emperor ) Tuesday - Suicide bomber kills 10 in Instanbul Wednesday - Suicide bomber kills 15 in Quetta Thursday - Suicide bombers kill 14 in Jakarta Jakarta sounds very organized as was Paris. But what we are seeing here is more troublesome ;San Bernadino ,the Philly jihadist . They can attack in the name of the religion of peace ,and our leaders will deny that is the cause . Today the 12ers released their hostages in a prisoner swap where we returned hardened criminals . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #11. To: tomder55 (#10) Here is a cheap shot : What we know for sure Tom is that the jahadist are wahhabbists, follower of an extreme form of Islam eminating from Saudi Arabia. We know that Saudi Arabia has supported Daesh and other rebels in Syria. It is highly likely they also supported Daesh in Iraq against the shiia regime. What is being missed here is that Saudi Arabia wants to dominate the arab world and the Islamic religion and they are prepared to fight a proxy war to achieve their objectives
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