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politics and politicians Title: Hillary e-mail exchange debated kick-starting Palestinian protests to pressure Israel Pickering wanted a game-changer. He may have belatedly provided one: In a Dec, 18, 2011, email, former U.S. ambassador to Israel Thomas Pickering suggested that Clinton consider a plan to restart then-stalled peace negotiations by kickstarting Palestinian demonstrations against Israel. Pickering described the effort as a potential “game changer in the region,” recommending that the United States undertake a clandestine campaign to generate unrest. Clinton requested that his email be printed. “What will change the situation is a major effort to use non-violent protests and demonstrations to put peace back in the center of people’s aspirations as well as their thoughts, and use that to influence the political leadership,” Pickering wrote. Pickering addressed the letter to Hillary’s chief of staff Cheryl Mills, who promptly forwarded it to her boss. Hillary sent the note to aide Monica Hanley with the instruction to “Pls print,” presumably for further review. Hanley made news earlier this week for a dressing-down she received from Hillary in one e-mail exchange for misinforming her of the name of an ambassador, although it turned out that she had been given bad information by others in State about Tunisia’s Rafik Abdessalem. In case no one already knew this, Pickering emphasized the need for covert action: Gee, I wonder how many other foreign protests were facilitated by the State Department? Were any others sparked against American allies in that region? One has to wonder after reading this how much the State Department might have had to do with some of the “Arab Spring” protests, too. (In fact, at one point Pickering says that the effort must be “just like Tahrir Square,” a mention that might interest our allies in Egypt.) This e-mail thread doesn’t indicate whether Hillary took Pickering’s advice, but she certainly appeared to take it under advisement. And while the e-mail itself wasn’t classified, it’s yet another example of how these kinds of communications can harm American interests when transmitted in the open. This would be enough to create a massive backlash among our allies, and in fact may still do so. Pickering emphasizes that Hillary should work with women in the territories to minimize the chance of the protests turning violent. That’s a risky bet anywhere in the region, but particularly in this part of the world. Pickering seems more worried about a violent Israeli response — “the chances are much less that force would be misused against them,” but Pickering later writes that “the dangers are not small” of an Israeli overreaction. It apparently never occurs to him that this kind of protest might make for a convenient screen for more violent forces in the West Bank and Gaza, in an attempt to force the Israelis to react and then get castigated for their response. Some allies, eh? This exchange confirms the tendency of the Obama administration to treat Israel with arrogance, if not outright hostility. This e-mail doesn’t raise legal issues, but it raises serious political issues, especially for Hillary Clinton’s orientation toward Israel and the Obama administration’s dealings with Iran in 2009. When protesters filled the streets in Iran, peacefully demonstrating against a rigged election and demanding an end to the mullahcracy, Obama and the White House went out of their way to ignore it, even at one point accepting the results of the election. The Green Revolution faltered and failed thanks to Obama’s desire to gain a meaningless and dangerous agreement that will all but certify Iran as a nuclear-weapons state. Where was Pickering then? And for that matter, where was Hillary Clinton? Poster Comment: Morissey has done a ton of these Hitlery stories lately. Good reporting.(1 image) Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest When protesters filled the streets in Iran, peacefully demonstrating against a rigged election and demanding an end to the mullahcracy, Obama and the White House went out of their way to ignore it, even at one point accepting the results of the election. The Green Revolution faltered and failed thanks to Obama’s desire to gain a meaningless and dangerous agreement that will all but certify Iran as a nuclear-weapons state. Where was Pickering then? And for that matter, where was Hillary Clinton? That was the biggest opportunity missed in the emperor's reign and probably since 1980. It would not have taken a big military effort on our part . The regime of the 12ers was ready to topple with a gentle push. Even providing the protesters with sat. phones to get their message out would've had great affect. What this article fails to mention is that the 'non-violent protests and demonstrations 'have devolved to random knife attacks on the streets of Jerusalem . One has to wonder after reading this how much the State Department might have had to do with some of the “Arab Spring” protests, too. (In fact, at one point Pickering says that the effort must be “just like Tahrir Square,” a mention that might interest our allies in Egypt.) I think it is generally understood that the US under the emperor is largly responsible for the so called 'Arab Spring'. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #2. To: TooConservative (#0) (Edited) Hillary e-mail exchange debated kick-starting Palestinian protests to pressure Israel That sounds like Hillary on her ongoing mission of enabling chaos and destruction. Trump is absolutely correct in calling her an enabler, but he didn't go far enough with his application of the term. Whenever there is opportunity to jam a countercultural screwdriver in the gears of anything, Hillary can be counted on to support it. Hillary was chosen to be SOS by Obama because they are two of a kind. The same is true of Kerry. I wish I were advising Trump. He's missing too many opportunities to start a revolution in this country that will clean out the leftist counterculturalists.
#3. To: All (#2) (Edited) Currently, this country is suffering from a sustained condition of unrecognized Clinton, Bush, Kerry, and Obama assisted suicide. It's Trump's job to get on the pulpit and get people to recognize it. If he does, he'll win the presidency. If he doesn't, they and their minions will continue to loosen the plug on life support for this country with their smiling verbal tuberculosis.
#4. To: tomder55 (#1) That was the biggest opportunity missed in the emperor's reign and probably since 1980. It would not have taken a big military effort on our part . The regime of the 12ers was ready to topple with a gentle push. Even providing the protesters with sat. phones to get their message out would've had great affect. Maybe. We've seen similar unrest fomenting in other Arab Springs. In Iran, the religious police and conservative mullahs are still very powerful. An uprising would still likely have failed miserably. Even so, making a nuke deal with Iran while ignoring this peaceful uprising was a big mistake. But we can't pretend that we know it would have ended differently if only Zero would have done more to support the dissidents. It was a weak movement in many ways, not broad-based.
I think it is generally understood that the US under the emperor is largly responsible for the so called 'Arab Spring'. A far worse legacy than even Bush's perhaps. Certainly, Zero has little to be proud of and much to be ashamed of. History, if fairly written, can hardly be any kinder to Obola/Hitlery than to Dumbya.
#5. To: TooConservative (#4) (Edited) if anything ignited the Arab Spring it was the expectations after the emperor made the speeches at Ankara and Cairo .
Once the 12ers have a nuke there will be no regime change possible. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #6. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#4) (Edited) I see the 12ers gave the emperor an excellent talking point for tonight's SOTU address. http://www.10news.com/news/national/pentagon-two-navy-boats-in-iranian-custody- crew-will-be-returned-promptly
10 sailors captured http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/12/politics/10-u-s-sailors-in-iranian- custody/index.html Maybe the chair next to Madame Defarge can represent the emptiness of the emperor's foreign policy . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #7. To: All (#6) If the 12ers are going to release the 10 sailors then perhaps they could also release Marine Hekmati, Pastor Abedini, Journo Rezain and FBI Bob Levinson ? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #8. To: tomder55 (#6) I see the 12ers gave the emperor an excellent talking point for tonight's SOTU address. Not the first time our close friends in Iran have dragooned our sailors. I recall another incident some years back where they held the crew of some small patrol boat for a week or so. FWIW, they were well-treated in captivity.
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