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politics and politicians Title: McCain the hypocritical worm unsure whether Cruz is eligible for presidency The hypocrite McCain refused to entertain any critique of the emperor ,or his possible eligibility issues during the 2008 campaign . But he hates members of his own party much more than Democrats . Back then he got ugly with radio host Bill Cunningham for using the emperor's middle name in his comments at a McCain rally . “That’s different from being born on foreign soil, so I think there is a question," McCain said. "I am not a constitutional scholar on that, but I think it’s worth looking into. I don’t think it’s illegitimate to look into it.” No you are not a constitutional scholar. But Ted Cruz ,who has argued cases in SCOTUS is a constitutional scholar . You McCain are a babbling idiot ! Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest The MSM and the Democrats are strangely silent on this issue. But if Cruz gets the nomination, expect them to kick into high gear and say he's not eligible. Now, maybe it will turn out he is eligible after all. But you know that conclusion won't be reached until after the election. In the meantime, how many voters will feel that a vote for Cruz is a wasted vote?
#2. To: misterwhite (#1) Now, maybe it will turn out he is eligible after all. But you know that conclusion won't be reached until after the election. In the meantime, how many voters will feel that a vote for Cruz is a wasted vote? None because it is a non-issue . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKvT6DDR-4A Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #3. To: tomder55 (#2) "None because it is a non-issue." Let's see. We have an American citizen mother and a non-American citizen father giving birth to a child in another country and you say that child is a "natural-born American citizen". Correct? Then why did people say Obama was NOT a natural-born American citizen because he was born in Kenya? According to you, it makes no difference where he was born. Right?
#4. To: tomder55 (#0) The hypocrite McCain should do the nation a favor, and STFU !!! Si vis pacem, para bellum Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There are no Carthaginian terrorists. #5. To: misterwhite (#3) Then why did people say Obama was NOT a natural-born American citizen because he was born in Kenya? According to you, it makes no difference where he was born. Right? correct . It did not matter where he was born . The birther issue was a non- issue distraction with the emperor too. There were real legitimate reasons to oppose his candidacy . His place of birth was not one on them . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #6. To: tomder55 (#0) Just when you think you couldn't possibly despise the Stain more than you already do...
#7. To: tomder55 (#5) "His place of birth was not one on them." It was a big deal at the time -- to the point that Obama was forced to produce a copy of his birth certificate. Now if his place of birth wasn't relevant, why would the President of the United States be forced to produce such a document?
#8. To: misterwhite (#7) It was a big deal at the time -- to the point that Obama was forced to produce a copy of his birth certificate. No one forced him to produce anything . He got tired of the side show and released it in April 2011 in the 3rd year of his reign. Of course Trump took all credit for it ;but all he really did was bleat the loudest . Had he decided not to release it ,he still would've won a 2nd term and would still be on the throne today . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #9. To: tomder55 (#8) "He got tired of the side show and released it in April 2011 ..." That's exactly Trump's point -- this issue is a distraction for Cruz and should be settled ASAP.
#10. To: tomder55 (#5) The birther issue was a non- issue distraction with the emperor too. There were real legitimate reasons to oppose his candidacy . His place of birth was not one on them . You have to be a natural born citizen to be President. Have you ever read the constitution? It really says that honest.
#11. To: Roy Batty (#10) The birther issue was a non- issue distraction with the emperor too. There were real legitimate reasons to oppose his candidacy . His place of birth was not one on them . You have to be a natural born citizen to be President. I know what the Constitution says ,and I know what the Federal code says defining who is a natural born citizen . Under the code ,both the emperor ,and Cruz qualify . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #12. To: misterwhite (#9) That's exactly Trump's point -- this issue is a distraction for Cruz and should be settled ASAP. Trump knows very well that it won't be settled . He's trying to set a trap for Cruz. But Cruz is too smart for it . Did you believe the emperor's birth cert. or did you say it was invalid or a fraud like most birthers did ? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #13. To: tomder55 (#11) So some 21-year-old American girl becomes infatuated with ISIS, goes to Syria, gets pregnant by a terrorist, has the child in Syria, raises the child with ISIS in Syria, moves back to the U.S., and that child can run for President? You're crazy.
#14. To: misterwhite (#3) Then why did people say Obama was NOT a natural-born American citizen because he was born in Kenya? Under the law, Obama’s mother would have had to have lived 10 years in the US, 5 of which were after she reached the age of 14 for Obama to be a US citizen if he had been born in Kenya. At the time of Obama’s birth, his mother was only 18. Therefore, Obama's mother did not meet the residency requirements under the law to give her son US citizenship if he had been born in Kenya. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president #15. To: misterwhite (#13) So some 21-year-old American girl becomes infatuated with ISIS, goes to Syria, gets pregnant by a terrorist, has the child in Syria, raises the child with ISIS in Syria, moves back to the U.S., and that child can run for President? I didn't make the law. I have already said that this question begs for an amendment to clarify it . Without a clear definition of what a 'natural born ' citizen is in the constitution ,then we will always have this issue . But currently ,the Federal code ,a law passed by Congress defines it . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #16. To: no gnu taxes (#14) I understand that, but all the hoopla was about Obama being born in Kenya. People were not talking about his mother's residency requirements. Had his mother met the residency requirements, the Kenya issue would have remained.
#17. To: misterwhite (#16) I understand that, but all the hoopla was about Obama being born in Kenya. People were not talking about his mother's residency requirements. Most people didn't know the underlying issue. And before any of that could even be considered, you'd first have to demonstrate he wasn't born in Hawaii. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president #18. To: no gnu taxes (#14) The emperor was born in Hawaii and that means he was born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. His mother's age at his birth is immaterial. Yeah I know ...his birth cert is a fraud . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? #19. To: tomder55 (#15) "Without a clear definition of what a 'natural born ' citizen is in the constitution ,then we will always have this issue." I agree. And isn't that exactly what Trump said? That Cruz needs to verify his natural born citizenship standing? I never said Cruz was or wasn't a NBC. Trump never said Cruz was or wasn't a NBC. No one know for sure because the definition of a NBC has never been given.
#20. To: tomder55 (#18) His mother's age at his birth is immaterial. It would be if he were actually born in Kenya, because she couldn't have met the residency requirements. But, I agree, at this point, it just has to be accepted Obama was born in Hawaii. Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president #21. To: no gnu taxes (#17) (Edited) "Most people didn't know the underlying issue." Correct. People believe that an individual born outside the U.S. is not a natural born citizen. They believed that about Obama. They believed that about McCain. Hell, they believed that about Barry Goldwater. Granted, there was an underlying issue with Obama. But I bet that 99.99% of the people were unaware of it. I didn't know until I started to do some digging.
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