politics and politicians
See other politics and politicians Articles
Title: What Went Wrong With Rand Paul?
Source:
The Daily Beast
URL Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl ... went-wrong-with-rand-paul.html
Published: Dec 30, 2015
Author: The Daily Beast
Post Date: 2016-01-03 08:17:36 by Operation 40
Keywords: rand, paul, deceit
Views: 939
Comments: 10
A year ago, Trump was a joke and Paul was rising. But now that their fortunes have flipped, is it fair to say libertarianism is finally dead? So this is the year that libertarianism, a political philosophy advocating minimal government across the board and thus annoying as hell to both conservatives and liberals, finally up and died. Not really, but that’s the new official story, at least as told by media types who have been prophesying the end of libertarianism for as long as they’ve been writing. There’s a superficial plausibility to the charge, especially among those who confuse partisan politics with the real America. Among high-profile Democrats and Republicans, the constituency for more-open borders is zero and there’s nothing like Islamic terrorism in France and California to rev up the war machine and ignite bipartisan calls for encryption backdoors or a ban on secret communications altogether. After a few years of an unintended pause, our elected officials have even managed to put aside their differences and are once again cranking up spending...snipped ...There’s no doubt that Paul’s presidential campaign is on life support. What started out so promisingly as an unstoppable drive to the White House got a flat tire before it even left the parking lot. In February, Paul won the presidential straw poll at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) for the third year running, cruising past Scott Walker (remember him?) and positively crushing Donald Trump by over 20 points. As recently as June, Paul was topping polls of Republican contenders! And yet just a couple of weeks ago, Paul was reduced to special pleading to even get on the main stage of the latest Republican debate. He’s now scraping by with Pataki-like numbers, even as his fellow senators, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, duke it out for what might come if and when Trump hits the skids. What happened to Rand Paul? He has run a bad campaign, especially from an ideological perspective. Conservatives have never been especially fond of libertarian-leaning Republicans to begin with and Paul seemed eager to show time and again that he wasn’t, well, that libertarian. Sure, he had called the GOP “stale and moss-covered” and even reached out to ethnic minorities, but once he started aiming at the presidency, he’s rarely missed an opportunity to jump on every conservative outrage of the day: sanctuary cities, ebola quarantines, Planned Parenthood, the Iran deal, you name it. The guy who counseled—at the war-crazy Heritage Foundation, no less—that the U.S. should give peace a chance overseas was suddenly talking about bombing the Middle East and waging war against ISIS and banning refugees and ending visas for people from countries with “a jihadist movement,” a term of art that covers essentially all of Europe these days. After this summer’s shooting in Chattanooga, he called for the sort of profiling program he had once rejected as intrusive and ineffective. The result was that Paul went from being what Time called “the most interesting man in politics” to sounding like most of the other windbags running for the GOP nomination. He abandoned exactly what had brought him attention at exactly the wrong time. And by fixating on the 2016 presidential race, he may well be undercutting the long fight he needs to wage within the Republican Party to win hearts and minds to the cause of smaller government across the board. Whether going full libertarian would have produced different results in today’s GOP is anybody’s guess—based on the years they controlled Congress and the White House, there’s no reason to believe that Republicans are actually interested in a government that does less and spends less—but there’s no question it would have made Paul’s campaign more interesting...snipped Full Article: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/30/what-went-wrong-with-rand-paul.html 
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
#1. To: Operation 40 (#0)
Rand should drop out and wait for 2020 or 2024. He has run a poor campaign and 2016 just can't be a good fit for him. That much has been obvious for some time now.
in other words ,reality hit his ideology square between the eyes. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
That's half of the political philosphy. The other half is maximum individual liberty to do whatever you want (as long as it doesn't harm others). What's wrong with that, you ask? Sounds good on paper, right? Well, the problem is human compassion. When an individual abuses his freedom by doing drugs, or becomes diseased from a prostitute, or gambles away all his money, society steps in to save him from himself. Which is expensive. I've always said that I'd be willing to make a deal with the Libertarians. First, establish your "minimal" government which does NOT include the care of these losers, then we'll talk about giving the people more liberty.
Yep, that's what the founders advocated for local, state, and fed govt, - in our Constitution. And it worked quite well, constitutionally speaking, until the early 1900's. Exactly. -- When the new socialist society stepped in to 'save him', -- ignoring constitutional constraints, -- we began on our road to serfdom. It will end with national bankruptcy. Our minimal govts were well established by approx 1900; -- when 'compassionate socialists' like misterwhite started their experiments in saving us all from our sinful natures. Human liberty and big govt prohibitionism will never mix.
Just another socialistic empty promise, --- bullshit....
No, the author is Nick Gillespie, the well known George Soros/Karl Rove globalist progressive neocon, and phony libertarian. He's a Hillary shill, like you. Nick Gillespie is the editor in chief of Reason.com and the co-author The Declaration of Independents: How Libertarian Politics Can Fix What’s Wrong with America. http://www.thedailybeast.com/contributors/nick-gillespie.html Not really, but that’s the new official story, at least as told by media types who have been prophesying the end of libertarianism for as long as they’ve been writing. There’s a superficial plausibility to the charge, especially among those who confuse partisan politics with the real America. What in the above quote leads you to the conclusion that the author is a "Hillary shill"? -- A phony libertarian? Are you a 'real libertarian' ?
What in the above quote leads you to the conclusion that the author is a "Hillary shill"? -- A phony libertarian? I'm more of a Paleo-libertarian. Gillespie has evolved into a Glen Beck type Romney/Hillary libertarian. He's not doing that great of a job, hiding his love for Hillary. ROFL I was thinking you were smarter than this. Maybe it's just campaign season and you're in tribal mode. Just for the record, I'm supporting Trump for now, subject to change at any time, and the only Democrat I'd ever consider voting for at this time is Tulsi Gabbard from Hawaii, who isn't running. Maybe in 2020. Do you know anything about this Congresswoman? When you assume, you make an ass out of YOU and ME. Don't do it. And by the way, I know exactly who Gillespie is. What part of the article did you disagree with? You've been playing in the gutter, Sir.
Gillespie has evolved into a Glen Beck type Romney/Hillary libertarian. Hillary’s Strategy Is Actually Brilliant - Nick Gillespie He's not doing that great of a job, hiding his love for Hillary. If you really think Gillespie loves Hillary, you're not paleo-, you're psycho- libertarian.
#2. To: Operation 40 (#0)
The guy who counseled—at the war-crazy Heritage Foundation, no less—that the U.S. should give peace a chance overseas was suddenly talking about bombing the Middle East and waging war against ISIS and banning refugees and ending visas for people from countries with “a jihadist movement,” a term of art that covers essentially all of Europe these days. After this summer’s shooting in Chattanooga, he called for the sort of profiling program he had once rejected as intrusive and ineffective.
#3. To: Operation 40 (#0)
"So this is the year that libertarianism, a political philosophy advocating minimal government across the board ..."
#4. To: misterwhite, advocating prohibitionism again, -- Y'ALL (#3)
"libertarianism, a political philosophy advocating minimal government across the board ..."
misterwhite -- That's half of the political philosphy. The other half is maximum individual liberty to do whatever you want (as long as it doesn't harm others). -- -- What's wrong with that, you ask? Sounds good on paper, right?
Well, the problem is human compassion. When an individual abuses his freedom by doing drugs, or becomes diseased from a prostitute, or gambles away all his money, society steps in to save him from himself. Which is expensive.
I've always said that I'd be willing to make a deal with the Libertarians. First, establish your "minimal" government which does NOT include the care of these losers, then we'll talk about giving the people more liberty.
#5. To: misterwhite, who will not reply to defend his lies, poor fella. (#3)
I've always said that I'd be willing to make a deal with the Libertarians.
#6. To: Operation 40, ready for Hillary (#0)
Author: The Daily Beast
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#7. To: hondo68, Y'ALL (#6)
Nick Gillespie---- So this is the year that libertarianism, a political philosophy advocating minimal government across the board and thus annoying as hell to both conservatives and liberals, finally up and died.
#8. To: tpaine, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#7)
(Edited)
Are you a 'real libertarian' ?
Hillary’s Strategy Is Actually Brilliant - Nick Gillespie
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#9. To: hondo68 (#6)
He's a Hillary shill, like you.
#10. To: hondo68 (#8)
I'm more of a Paleo-libertarian.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
[Home] [Headlines] [Latest Articles] [Latest Comments] [Post] [Mail] [Sign-in] [Setup] [Help] [Register]