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Title: Donald Trump changes tune on wages after Bernie Sanders broadside
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Published: Dec 28, 2015
Author: Colin Campbell
Post Date: 2015-12-28 10:59:24 by sneakypete
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Views: 28424
Comments: 81
After previously saying wages were "too high," Trump instead stressed Sunday and again Monday that they were actually "too low."
"Wages in are country are too low, good jobs are too few, and people have lost faith in our leaders. We need smart and strong leadership now!" Trump tweeted Monday morning.
The apparent shift came after Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont), a Democratic presidential candidate, said in a Sunday interview that his message would resonate among Trump's working-class supporters.
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Ya gotta admire the stongly-held beliefs and sincerity of The Donald,don't you?
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#1. To: AKA Stone, Roscoe, All, *Hypocrisy and Hypocrites* (#0)
Who can resist a real leader that knows what he is doing,and stands by his decisions?
BTW,does agreeing with Bernie make your boy Donald a commie,AKA Stone?
Gee,I wonder if this means he is sending the foreigners he imported into this country because they work cheaper than Americans back home,and replacing them with American workers?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#2. To: sneakypete (#1)
So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr?
#3. To: Roscoe (#2)
So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr?
What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba?
Am I the one running for president and saying American wages are too high and need to be lowered to compete with the rest of the world for a few months,and then does a 180 degree turn when challenged and say they are too low?
Am I the guy talking about keeping foreigners out of the US,while importing them to work for my businesses because they work cheaper than Americans?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#4. To: sneakypete (#3)
What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba?
Why are you so terrified of answering a simple question?
Is the minimum wage too high or too low, sneaky?
#5. To: Roscoe (#4)
What do Trumps switching "stand" on wages have to do with ME,Bubba?Why are you so terrified of answering a simple question?
I'm not,Bubba. I'm just tired of dealing with morons who want to blame ME for some lack of character in the candidate of their choice.
*I* am not the one running for president.
*I* am not the public figure posing as an expert on finance.
*I* am not the one you need to be asking these questions. The one you should be asking is named Trump.
Is the minimum wage too high or too low, sneaky?
It shouldn't even exist,but WTF do you care about what *I* think about minimum wages? Are you considering casting a write in ballot for me for President?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#6. To: Roscoe (#2)
"So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr?"
How about this? If the federal government is going to mandate $15 per hour, and if the job is only worth $6 an hour, the federal government kicks in the difference. And that money MUST come from an existing social program.
I'm getting tired of unfunded mandates. If the federal government thinks $15 an hour (or any amount) is such a great idea, then let THEM pay for it.
#7. To: Roscoe (#2)
So just how high do you want to raise the minimum wage? $15/hr? $25/hr? $1000/hr?
At least in the above quotes, Trump is not addressing minimum wages changes. Saying wages are too low is not necessarily advocating increasing minimum wage. He may instead be advocating an end to exporting jobs to Mexico, China, et al, and other policy changes that would increase wages through economic supply and demand forces.
#8. To: Pinguinite (#7)
"At least in the above quotes, Trump is not addressing minimum wages changes."
When he said "wages are too high" he was answering a question about raising the minimum wage. He stated that IF we wanted to compete for those jobs lost to other countries, wages would have to be lower.
The recent comment was about wages in general.
#9. To: sneakypete (#5)
I hope you didn't trip and get a boo boo running away from the question. Here's some more you won't dare answer:
Are wages too high to allow American workers to compete against Chinese imports in free trade environment?
Are falling American wages too low to maintain our traditional prior to free trade standards of living?
#10. To: Roscoe (#2)
sneaky doesn't care. He has his Gubmint $$$$BUCKS$$$ conveniently deposited into his bank account each month complete with adjusted cost of living increases.
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
#11. To: misterwhite, Pinguinite (#8)
"At least in the above quotes, Trump is not addressing minimum wages changes."
Time for someone to eat crow.
TRUMP: But, taxes too high, wages too high, we're not going to be able to compete against the world. I hate to say it, but we have to leave it the way it is. People have to go out, they have to work really hard and have to get into that upper stratum. But we can not do this if we are going to compete with the rest of the world. We just can't do it.
CAVUTO: So do not raise the minimum wage?
TRUMP: I would not do it.
#12. To: Roscoe (#9)
Are wages too high to allow American workers to compete against Chinese imports in free trade environment?Are falling American wages too low to maintain our traditional prior to free trade standards of living?
The answer to both questions is yes.
The answer is to either end free trade, or to establish a minimum wage that will allow a man and a woman working full time at it to raise a family under proper conditions, to establish national health insurance and a more solid national retirement plan, paid out of taxes.
#13. To: Vicomte13 (#12)
The answer to both questions is yes.
And so the world is more than black and white.
#14. To: Roscoe (#11)
CAVUTO: So do not raise the minimum wage?
The MSM continues to outdo itself with their distortions of what Trump actually said. No wonder he hates them.
#15. To: Roscoe (#13)
"And so the world is more than black and white."
Unless you're white on the right side:
#16. To: Vicomte13 (#12)
The answer is to either end free trade, or to establish a minimum wage that will allow a man and a woman working full time at it to raise a family under proper conditions, to establish national health insurance and a more solid national retirement plan, paid out of taxes.
Slashing taxes would allow a minimum wage earner to raise a family.
In addition to increases his/her income, it would mean lower prices of food and necessities they buy.
Of course, "slashing" would be by the libertarian definition of the term, meaning a 30-50% cut in federal revenue, which would be highly "un-American" according to R's and D's because federal policies are more important than main street America.
#17. To: sneakypete (#0)
His posigin hasn't changed.
Some wages are to high. Like a union worker who pushes a broom for 38 bucks an hour.
Others are not.
You don't know the difference between apples oand oranges or dicks and vaginas.
#18. To: Vicomte13 (#12)
to establish national health insurance
That would be anti christian. It would be saying you don't have faith in God but you have faith in man.
You are nbot taking a christian ppsition but the position of a darwanist.
#19. To: sneakypete, Roscoe (#5)
Are you considering casting a write in ballot for me for President?
I might. What will you give me that the DRats won't?
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
#20. To: Roscoe (#9)
I hope you didn't trip and get a boo boo running away from the question. Here's some more you won't dare answer:
You obviously have me confused with someone else. Then again,since you are a Trump supporter,confusion is your natural state.
Are wages too high to allow American workers to compete against Chinese imports in free trade environment?
Yes,and no. Yes if nothing else changes,"no" if we were to quit giving (selling under the table) sweetheart deals to the Chinese.
Even if we did that our wages would still be too high because our welfare system pays too much to provide any incentive for the parasites who are retired in place on welfare to bother getting up out of bed before noon to go to a job. It was the Dims that created this nightmare,and they did it to buy votes. Overhauling the welfare system to remove the able-bodied,mandate birth control for females,and require drug testing for everybody on welfare as a condition for them to remain on welfare are just the first things that need to be done to overhaul the system.
Yes,welfare IS tied to the high minimum wage becaue the more the government pays people to not work,the more private employers have to pay them to get them to come to work.
Beyone that I am sure there are a number of trade issues that need to be resolved with the Chinese and everyone else to level the playing field a little.
It is the neo-con fascists that are creating the roadblock on that end of the issue.
Are falling American wages too low to maintain our traditional prior to free trade standards of living?
I suppose you want a simple answer for that one,too? Guess what,bubba. It's tied to the issues above.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#21. To: no gnu taxes (#10)
sneaky doesn't care. He has his Gubmint $$$$BUCKS$$$ conveniently deposited into his bank account each month complete with adjusted cost of living increases.
Unlike parasites like you,I EARNED my money,mama's boy.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#22. To: Vicomte13 (#12)
The answer is to either end free trade, or to establish a minimum wage that will allow a man and a woman working full time at it to raise a family under proper conditions, to establish national health insurance and a more solid national retirement plan, paid out of taxes.
And who is going to be in charge of all this,comrade? The Vatican?
HEY! Ain't they already supposed to be feeding,housing,and giving free medical care to the poor?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#23. To: sneakypete (#21)
Unlike parasites like you,I EARNED my money,mama's boy.
Because you participated in a ponzi scheme. Doesn't mean the younger generation owes you a penny.
You're living off of the fruit of others. Rightly or wrongly.
You should thank them.
#24. To: Pinguinite (#16)
Slashing taxes would allow a minimum wage earner to raise a family.
Not really. People working minimum wage jobs don't earn enough to pay taxes. In fact,they usually get a Earned Income Tax Credit check back from the government each year if they are married or have children. I don't think single males or single females without children qualify for it,though.
Of course, "slashing" would be by the libertarian definition of the term, meaning a 30-50% cut in federal revenue, which would be highly "un-American" according to R's and D's because federal policies are more important than main street America.
Neither the R's nor the D's want to cut taxes because they use the tax money to buy votes via government jobs,government contracts,welfare,food stamps,etc,etc,etc.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#18)
"to establish national health insurance "That would be anti christian.
Does your cult own stock in a insurance company,or something?
BTW,if it is wrong for the government to so something you consider to be "anti-Christian",is it also wrong for the government to do something Muslims consider to be "anti-Muslim"?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#26. To: sneakypete (#25)
BTW,if it is wrong for the government to so something you consider to be "anti-Christian",is it also wrong for the government to do something Muslims consider to be "anti-Muslim"?
Like what you wear. It depends.
#27. To: SOSO (#19)
I might. What will you give me that the DRats won't?
I don't plan on giving you anything.
If I were actually running for president the only thing I would promise to give you would be the best and most ethical and honest government possible,and the right to live and manage your own life without government interference as long as you weren't a danger to anyone.
I'm not running for president though,and nobody that is would run on a platform like that because they wouldn't get party backing.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#28. To: A K A Stone (#23) (Edited)
Unlike parasites like you,I EARNED my money,mama's boy.Because you participated in a ponzi scheme.
No,because I served in the United States Army in combat.
Unlike Trump and his Trumpettes.
If the tutu fits......
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#29. To: A K A Stone (#26)
Like what you wear. It depends.
I'm not wearing anything right now.
I bet that gets you excited,doesn't it?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#30. To: sneakypete (#28)
No,because I served in the United States Army in combat.
I'm talking about social security.
#31. To: sneakypete (#29)
I'm not wearing anything right now.I bet that gets you excited,doesn't it?
Your lines you use on your sisters kids don't work here. In fact they are disgusting.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#30)
No,because I served in the United States Army in combat.I'm talking about social security.
Nobody that paid into the SS system and retired at age 65 is getting a damn thing they didn't pay for.
Neither are people who became disabled and can no longer work.
Where we went wrong was giving it to babies of foreigners because the baby obviously never paid into the system,and neither did their parents.
Nor should the government (Dims) ever have been allowed to get away with stealing money from the SS Trust Fund to fund all sorts of government handout programs,and leave the system with a IOU for future generations not even born yet to pay off.
BUT......,the blame does not lay on the shoulders of the people who are just taking what they are offered. It lays squarely on the shoulders of the politicians that stole that money to buy votes.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#33. To: sneakypete (#32)
Nobody that paid into the SS system and retired at age 65 is getting a damn thing they didn't pay for.
Yes they are. Your money is already spent. The money has to be borrowed ad paid back by future generations.
But you don't care. You only care about yourself.
Just becausae some sucker paid socxial security doesn't mean they are owed b u others in the future. People who think thaqt might say something stupid like BVernie is a conservative.
#34. To: sneakypete (#20)
you are a Trump supporter
Nope. You're so weak.
Yes,and no. Yes if nothing else changes,"no" if we were to quit giving (selling under the table) sweetheart deals to the Chinese. Even if we did that our wages would still be too high because our welfare system pays too much to provide any incentive for the parasites who are retired in place on welfare to bother getting up out of bed before noon to go to a job. It was the Dims that created this nightmare,and they did it to buy votes. Overhauling the welfare system to remove the able-bodied,mandate birth control for females,and require drug testing for everybody on welfare as a condition for them to remain on welfare are just the first things that need to be done to overhaul the system. Yes,welfare IS tied to the high minimum wage becaue the more the government pays people to not work,the more private employers have to pay them to get them to come to work. Beyone that I am sure there are a number of trade issues that need to be resolved with the Chinese and everyone else to level the playing field a little.
You took a too high and a too low position, just like Trump. Bwahahaha!
#35. To: sneakypete (#32)
Nobody that paid into the SS system and retired at age 65 is getting a damn thing they didn't pay for.Neither are people who became disabled and can no longer work.
How is it that someone diaabled who takes more money then they put in. Isn't getting a damn thing they didn't pay for?
I'm not saying we shouldn't help the truly disabled. I'm just saying what you said isn't true.
#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)
Your money is already spent. The money has to be borrowed ad paid back by future generations.
He be loving that inter-generational debt.
#37. To: misterwhite (#15)
Unless you're white on the right side:
They must hate mirrors.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#33)
But you don't care. You only care about yourself.
You are the one doing the selfish whining because someone is getting something you aren't getting.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#39. To: sneakypete (#38)
You are the one doing the selfish whining because someone is getting something you aren't getting.
Which comment was that. Can you quote it?
#40. To: A K A Stone (#35)
How is it that someone diaabled who takes more money then they put in. Isn't getting a damn thing they didn't pay for?
Say what?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
#41. To: Roscoe (#36)
He be loving that inter-generational debt.
I don't think or care about it. It has nothing to do with me or the contract I entered into (against my will) with the government. If you have issues with it,take it up with the politicians that are stealing and spending the money,not me.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
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