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911 Title: Why is NORAD able to track Santa Claus in Real Time, yet failed completely to intercept the planes on 9/11? Why is NORAD able to track Santa Claus yet on September 11th, 2001 the air defense network had predictable and effective procedures for dealing with an attack and failed to respond in a timely manner until after the attack was over, more than an hour and a half after it had started. The official timeline describes a series of events and mode of response in which the delays are spread out into a number of areas. There are failures upon failures, in what might be described as a strategy of layered failures, or failure in depth. The failures can be divided into four types.
Had not there been multiple failures of each type, one or more parts of the attack could have been thwarted. NORAD had time to protect the World Trade Center even given the unbelievably late time, 8:40, when it claims to have first been notified. It had time to protect the South Tower and Washington even given its bizarre choice of bases from which to scramble planes. And it still had ample opportunity to protect both New York City and Washington even if it insisted that all interceptors fly subsonic, simply by redeploying airborne fighters. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 15. Maybe Santa will bring you some fresh tinfoil for Christmas. Have Norad send Santa a message requesting that. Before 9/11, there were no provisions for onshore intercept of aircraft. That was only done over offshore Air Defense Intercept Zones (ADIZ). Since, there are provisions for intercepting aircraft onshore.
#11. To: no gnu taxes (#1) Before 9/11, there were no provisions for onshore intercept of aircraft. That is not true. In fact that FAA required it back then. If a plene even went a tiny bit off course. So you aren't dealing in facts. Also the intercepted a private aircraft with that golfer.
#14. To: A K A Stone (#11) (Edited) Before 9/11, there were no provisions for onshore intercept of aircraft. Wrong. How is the FAA going to intercept an aircraft anyway? And the ONLY time a private aircraft was intercepted was golfer Payne Stewart's aircraft in 1999, and it took an hour and 20 minutes to reach it.
#15. To: no gnu taxes (#14) And the ONLY time a private aircraft was intercepted was golfer Payne Stewart's aircraft in 1999, and it took an hour and 20 minutes to reach it. Good grief, is there no end to your ignorance? And as Griffin points out in Debunking 9/11 Debunking, “In this account NORAD made 379 interceptions per year, 354 of which ‘involved visually inspecting unidentified aircraft in distress,’ not intercepting planes suspected of smuggling drugs. Besides the fact that 1992 was part of ‘the decade before 9/11,’ it is doubtful that the pattern of interceptions would have changed radically after that.” A Canadian government performance report on their arm of NORAD for 1999-2000 (pdf), the same period as the Payne Stewart flight, relevant to military operations in the years leading up to the 9/11 attacks, backs up Griffin’s statements. The report states, “If required, ‘unknown aircraft’ are intercepted and identified by aircraft dedicated to NORAD. Over the past year, NORAD has intercepted 736 aircraft, 82 of which were suspected drug smugglers…”
Replies to Comment # 15. NORAD made 379 interceptions per year You take one undocumented claim by a kook and accept it as meaning something. You kooks love your echo chambers.
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