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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Obama Says Trump Defends Working-class Interests
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/posts/obama-sa ... efends-working-class-interests
Published: Dec 22, 2015
Author: Steve Sailer
Post Date: 2015-12-22 14:03:41 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 2762
Comments: 27

No, not really. From the NYT:

Obama Accuses Trump of Exploiting Working-Class Fears By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

A less tendentious way to phrase that headline would be Obama Says Trump Is Defending Working-Class Interests, which is still legal going into 2016, although I’m sure respectable opinion is coming around to concluding that Steps Must Be Taken. When we take that racist populist Andrew Jackson off the $20 bill, that would be a good point to take away his signal reform, universal white male suffrage and go back to property requirements for white men to vote.

DEC. 21, 2015 1737 COMMENTS

President Obama said in a radio interview airing on Monday that Donald J. Trump, a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination, is exploiting the resentment and anxieties of working-class men to boost his campaign. Mr. Obama also argued that some of the scorn directed at him personally stems from the fact that he is the first African-American to hold the White House.

Demographic changes and economic stresses, including “flat-lining” wages and incomes, have meant that “particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck,” Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.

“You combine those things, and it means that there is going to be potential anger, frustration, fear — some of it justified, but just misdirected,” the president added. “I think somebody like Mr. Trump is taking advantage of that. That’s what he’s exploiting during the course of his campaign.”

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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Obama Says Trump Defends Working-class Interests

Somebody has to do it and defend working class based industries as well.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-22   16:21:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rlk (#1)

Trump is a plutocrat who regularly flaunts his extraordinary wealth. The working class workers have nothing in common with him. They are being fooled by someone who screams that his opponents are corrupted by the donor class (you know.....like Trump who uses donations to enhance his business interests ) . There is a disconnect here . To Trump ,the rust belt and the cornfields of Iowa are flyover country . He brings his private jet there because he can't stand to spend more than a couple hours with them before he jet sets back to his Park Avenue home. No doubt he takes long showers after such campaign stops . What Trump supporters are really saying is the way to counter the influence of super rich power hungry crony corporist who only care about themselves is to elect...a super rich, power hungry corporist who only cares about himself....as long as he continues to build a wall .

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-22   17:38:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tomder55 (#2) (Edited)

What you wrote about Trump’s taking showers and his disdain for flyover country is your own fantasy and writing creation. You don’t know what Trump thinks or why. It’s simply your own trashy version of a hit or smear piece that you are presenting as fact. I don’t know what Trump is thinking or how he thinks.

Let me tell you a secret. It’s the common little people who make this country run. I went to the supermarket today to get some cans of soup and tuna fish. I have to marvel at the boat captain in charge of catching the fish, the people who cooked it, the people who made the cans to put it in, the trucker who brought it to the store, and the people who stocked the shelves to provide us with something to eat. It’s the little people, the machinists, the mail carriers, the people working on assembly lines, the coal miners, etc. who are more important to this country than all the loud mouthed slick politicians and social theorists combined. Maybe Trump understands that. I hope for our sake he does. You never will.

There’s an unheard of story about Reagan. They had a big meeting Reagan attended. Reagan disappeared. Where the hell was Reagan? He ought to be out slapping backs and impressing people with fancy talk. They finally found him in a secluded room talking with a truck driver where they discussed what he did, how he did it, and any problems he was having. Reagan had spent two hours in common relaxed conversation with a truck driver and had got only one vote out of it.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-22   23:14:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rlk (#9)

What you wrote about Trump’s taking showers and his disdain for flyover country is your own fantasy and writing creation. You don’t know what Trump thinks or why. It’s simply your own trashy version of a hit or smear piece that you are presenting as fact. I don’t know what Trump is thinking or how he thinks.

You know I was thinking the same thing. This guy just makes stuff up. Not honest and honorable it appears.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-23   1:26:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about the middle class. The only thing he ever did for them was to build casinos where they can spend their hard earned dollars . How many of them can afford to spend a night in his hotels ; rent an apartment in his ritzy high rises ;join his country clubs or even pay the fees for membership to his golf courses ? His father built middle class housing but he doesn't. The thing he learned from his father is how to get the local government to foot much of the bill to build his projects . He is the crony capitalist you claim to despise.

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-23   5:55:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tomder55 (#12)

You lie a lot. Why do you feel the need to make stuff up.

Sentence 1 of yours is a made up lie. There is no way for you to know who he cares about. So you are a documented liar.

Sentence 2 is also a lie. The only thing Trump did was not build casinos. He did much more.

Sentence 3 shows you are covetous and jealous. Lots of people can't afford to do lots of different things. Your words show you think Trump should do the stuff for free. Like a socialist.

Your sentence 4 is correct. His father built middle class houses but he doesn't. So why do you think it is important for you to decide what Trump builds. Are you some kind of control freak? Is it dishonorable to build skyscrapers or something? So sentence 4 doesn't amount to anything either.

I think sentence 5 is a made up lie also. Document it.

Sentence 6 also isn't accurate in my view. He builds mostly private things.

So in conclusion to your remarks. We can observe some things.

1. You LIE and make up stuff that you can't possibly know is true about people you disagree with.

2. You're dumb if you think Trump only makes casinos.

3. You think everyone should be able to stay in one of Trumps places like some kind of socialist.

4. You think that if someone doesn't do the work that you think they should be doing then they are a bad person. That is a sick trait.

Why don't you try to change and point out real things. Not prejudices made up in your mind.

I fully expect you to support Hillary over Trump in the general election. It is who you are.

You agree with Hillary on Trade.

You agree with Hillary on foreign policy.

You agreed with her on Iraq invasion.

You agree with Hillary that we need a WTO to tell us what to do.

Face it your basically a liberal except social issues.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-23   10:54:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#14) (Edited)

Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about the middle class. The only thing he ever did for them was to build casinos where they can spend their hard earned dollars . How many of them can afford to spend a night in his hotels ; rent an apartment in his ritzy high rises ;join his country clubs or even pay the fees for membership to his golf courses ? His father built middle class housing but he doesn't. The thing he learned from his father is how to get the local government to foot much of the bill to build his projects . He is the crony capitalist you claim to despise.

1st sentence is an opinion. Just like my saying Trump is only exploiting the fears of the working class is an opinion. 2nd sentence I CLEARLY said " The only thing he ever did for them was to build casinos ".Maybe you have reading comprehension problems (that is just a speculation.. I'm not definitely saying you do) My 3rd and 4th sentences was further evidence that he does not do anything for the working class. It illustrates the disconnect between his rhetoric and his actions .I frankly don't care what he builds ,and no I don't think anyone should do things for free. You are lying about me .....or was that an opinion ?

Sentence 5 are you asking me if Trump or his old man are crony capitalists . It doesn't matter because the answer is yes for both . Fred Trump built his real estate empire first during the depression with mortgage guarantees from the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) that allowed him to build thousands of homes in Brooklyn, becoming the borough’s biggest builder. He later went on the do the same in Chester, Pennsylvania, and in Norfolk and Newport News, Virginia during WWII . He refused to testify to the Senate’s Banking and Currency Committee when he was accused of skimming . His claim to fame came after the war was when he used his political influence with the Brooklyn Democratic Party machine and the administration of Mayor Robert Wagner, to whom Trump was a top donor, to get 40 acres of land for himself ,and a generous tax abatement to build Trump Village in Coney Island. New York State put up 90 percent of the funding to erect Trump Village. But at least that was housing for middle class workers .

Trump does the same and I have documented numerous times where he took advantage of government give backs ,I'll mention a couple more and will still have many more to mention in future discussions . Do you deny that he does business that way ? He calls it the 'the art of the deal' and emphasizes his negotiating skills . But what he is really negotiating for is kick backs by local governments . By his own admission he is a big political donor and that he does it to better his business interests . When the Trump Golf Links in Ferry Point, Bronx, opened in April, the city’s Independent Budget Office estimated that $230 million in public subsidies had been poured into the project. Who do you think is going to use it ;the average working class person or their bosses ? By the time the tax breaks for Trump Tower is over ,he will have received $163.8 million of taxpayer money .

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-23   11:50:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: tomder55, sneakypete (#18)

I'm impressed by your summary of Trump the Chump.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-12-23 12:07:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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