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The Establishments war on Donald Trump
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Title: Obama Says Trump Defends Working-class Interests
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/posts/obama-sa ... efends-working-class-interests
Published: Dec 22, 2015
Author: Steve Sailer
Post Date: 2015-12-22 14:03:41 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 3429
Comments: 27

No, not really. From the NYT:

Obama Accuses Trump of Exploiting Working-Class Fears By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

A less tendentious way to phrase that headline would be Obama Says Trump Is Defending Working-Class Interests, which is still legal going into 2016, although I’m sure respectable opinion is coming around to concluding that Steps Must Be Taken. When we take that racist populist Andrew Jackson off the $20 bill, that would be a good point to take away his signal reform, universal white male suffrage and go back to property requirements for white men to vote.

DEC. 21, 2015 1737 COMMENTS

President Obama said in a radio interview airing on Monday that Donald J. Trump, a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination, is exploiting the resentment and anxieties of working-class men to boost his campaign. Mr. Obama also argued that some of the scorn directed at him personally stems from the fact that he is the first African-American to hold the White House.

Demographic changes and economic stresses, including “flat-lining” wages and incomes, have meant that “particularly blue-collar men have had a lot of trouble in this new economy, where they are no longer getting the same bargain that they got when they were going to a factory and able to support their families on a single paycheck,” Mr. Obama said in the interview with National Public Radio.

“You combine those things, and it means that there is going to be potential anger, frustration, fear — some of it justified, but just misdirected,” the president added. “I think somebody like Mr. Trump is taking advantage of that. That’s what he’s exploiting during the course of his campaign.”

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Obama Says Trump Defends Working-class Interests

Somebody has to do it and defend working class based industries as well.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-22   16:21:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rlk (#1)

Trump is a plutocrat who regularly flaunts his extraordinary wealth. The working class workers have nothing in common with him. They are being fooled by someone who screams that his opponents are corrupted by the donor class (you know.....like Trump who uses donations to enhance his business interests ) . There is a disconnect here . To Trump ,the rust belt and the cornfields of Iowa are flyover country . He brings his private jet there because he can't stand to spend more than a couple hours with them before he jet sets back to his Park Avenue home. No doubt he takes long showers after such campaign stops . What Trump supporters are really saying is the way to counter the influence of super rich power hungry crony corporist who only care about themselves is to elect...a super rich, power hungry corporist who only cares about himself....as long as he continues to build a wall .

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-22   17:38:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tomder55 (#2) (Edited)

What you wrote about Trump’s taking showers and his disdain for flyover country is your own fantasy and writing creation. You don’t know what Trump thinks or why. It’s simply your own trashy version of a hit or smear piece that you are presenting as fact. I don’t know what Trump is thinking or how he thinks.

Let me tell you a secret. It’s the common little people who make this country run. I went to the supermarket today to get some cans of soup and tuna fish. I have to marvel at the boat captain in charge of catching the fish, the people who cooked it, the people who made the cans to put it in, the trucker who brought it to the store, and the people who stocked the shelves to provide us with something to eat. It’s the little people, the machinists, the mail carriers, the people working on assembly lines, the coal miners, etc. who are more important to this country than all the loud mouthed slick politicians and social theorists combined. Maybe Trump understands that. I hope for our sake he does. You never will.

There’s an unheard of story about Reagan. They had a big meeting Reagan attended. Reagan disappeared. Where the hell was Reagan? He ought to be out slapping backs and impressing people with fancy talk. They finally found him in a secluded room talking with a truck driver where they discussed what he did, how he did it, and any problems he was having. Reagan had spent two hours in common relaxed conversation with a truck driver and had got only one vote out of it.

rlk  posted on  2015-12-22   23:14:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rlk (#9)

and Reagan was born of that group of Americans ,as I am .

The real facts are that tariffs hurt domestic industries . They don't help them. Tax cuts and especially regulatory relief after the anti business rule making assault by the emperor , not trade barriers, are the solution to America's competitiveness deficit.

Reforming or repealing Dodd-Frank, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, EPA imposing regulations, and the National Labor Relations Board ;the maze of licenses and codes that pose barriers to small business startups would help the American worker . Moves toward protectionism in America would give other nations an easy excuse to erect higher trade barriers of their own, and the domino effect could shut down worldwide trade .

This happened in the years before the great depression when Hoover lobbied for and signed Smoot-Hawley . The loss of confidence in the market led to 'Black Friday' ,and the trade wars the act created led to a decade long depression.

I have a great idea to test your theories on trade. Right now the Saudis are flooding the market with cheap oil . Our domestic industry cannot possibly compete with the pricing . One by one ,the frackers are capping their wells . This has led to the lowest gas prices at the pumps in years . American workers have more money to spend because they are not paying the prices at the pump they were paying . So to protect the domestic oil industry why don't we impose a tariff on the import of Saudi oil that would bring prices back up to the $4 -$5 gallon mark it was at ? Let's see how the working class feels about that as they would have less money to spend elsewhere. Also other domestic companies in other industries will now sell fewer goods because Americans have to spend more to purchase the tariffed products. Oh you would be protecting the jobs of the frackers temporarily , but at the expense of fewer people employed elsewhere in the economy. When Bush imposed steel tariffs ,a few steel mill towns benefitted at the expense of many companies who fabricate with steel and were now paying higher prices for the raw material they used. Out of necessity they raised their prices to their customers ,and the domino effect went on . In the end ,the American consumers foot the bill.

Another more recent example is the American solar power industry that is really in it's infancy ,but has grown to employ 150,000 workers .But the success of solar depends on beating the cost of other forms of electricity generation'. Right now there is a move to punish China for 'dumping' cheap solar cells on the market . But the US solar industry is dependent on those cheap cells to make their product competitive . SolarWorld seeks increased tariffs on solar products imported from China, as well as an expansion of tariffs to include products from Taiwan.

At the beginning of June, the Department of Commerce released a preliminary determination in SolarWorld's favor and began collecting duties as high as 35 percent on imports of solar products. Solar businesses and customers are already feeling the effect .The new tariffs will raise the price of solar panels by 14 percent.Rather than protecting the solar industry, tariffs hurt the American workers employed in solar companies the tariffs aim to help. And it ripples across the economy . Installers of solar products suffer too . But what is really insane is that to keep the industry competitive ,the government then proposes subsidies .So now the American worker pays for it with both higher prices and with taxes .

The argument for protectionism is the argument for higher prices, economic stagnation, and domestic monopolies and cartels. “In every country it always is and must be the interest of the great body of the people to buy whatever they want of those who sell it cheapest.”

“The proposition is so very manifest that it seems ridiculous to take any pains to prove it; nor could it ever have been called in question, had not the interested sophistry of merchants and manufacturers confounded the commonsense of mankind.” Adam Smith 'The Wealth of Nations'.

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