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Title: Imagine If Donald Trump Ran As A Democrat — It’s Not Too Hard To Do
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URL Source: http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/13/i ... mocrat-its-not-too-hard-to-do/
Published: Dec 14, 2015
Author: Jamie Weinstein
Post Date: 2015-12-14 04:40:22 by tomder55
Keywords: Trump is a Democrat
Views: 5740
Comments: 49

Imagine for a moment if Donald Trump made the decision to run for president as a Democrat instead of as a Republican.

As Trump-mania continues to dominate the Republican presidential primary, it’s not hard to envision an alternate reality – one where the real estate billionaire is taking the country by storm as a Democrat.

In many ways, it would have been easier for Trump to enter the Democratic primary than the Republican primary. Trump was registered as a Democrat from 2001 to 2009 and donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic candidates like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid over the years. (In fairness, he has donated a lot of money to Republican candidates as well.)

As a native of liberal New York City, it’s not surprising that Trump has a much longer record of being pro-choice than he does of being pro-life.

“I support a woman’s right to choose,” he said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in 2000.

Trump was never a staunch opponent of gay marriage either until recently. In fact, Rick Santorum says that Trump chided him in 2011 for being “too hard-core” on gay marriage and abortion.

“I don’t know anyone that shares that opinion with you,” Santorum said Trump told him.

So it’s not too hard to envision Trump running as a socially liberal Democrat. Indeed, it would seemingly be a far easier act for the thrice-married New Yorker to pull off than convincing evangelicals that he is staunchly pro-life and against gay marriage.

On foreign policy, Trump isn’t all that different from Barack Obama. To the extent his foreign policy worldview is comprehensible, he comes across as the least hawkish candidate in the GOP field, with the possible exception of Rand Paul, even though rhetoric sometimes masks this. While he says he wants to increase military spending and “bomb the shit” out of ISIS, he regularly makes the case for reducing America’s leadership role in world affairs and focusing on nation building at home.

“I’ll tell you what, there is going to be nation building. You know what the nation’s going to be? The United States, that’s what the nation’s going to be,” Trump told me in September, speaking of his foreign policy outlook.

As Trump also repeatedly highlights, he opposed the Iraq war (though the first evidence of this comes from 2004, over a year after the war began). Such a position is far more endearing to the Democratic base than Hillary Clinton’s support for the military action that removed Saddam from power.

Trump wouldn’t be out of place on economic issues in a Democratic primary either. At this anti-Wall Street moment, Trump could paint himself as the insider who is ready to turn enemy of his class for the good of the country.

What’s more, Trump has a record of favoring proposals that would be far more vexing to the one percent than anything Bernie Sanders has proposed. In 1999, Trump proposed a one-time 14.25 percent tax on wealthy Americans and trusts over $10 million. Even now he doesn’t back away from that proposal philosophically, even though he says he doesn’t intend to pursue it in the White House.

“At that time we could have paid off the entire national debt and we could have started the game all even,” Trump told Sean Hannity in August, noting that the proposal was actually “very conservative.”

Trump is also a supporter of universal health care, if not Obamacare.

“I am going to take care of everybody,” Trump said on “60 Minutes” in September. “I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”

Trump even praised the single payer health care programs of Canada and Scotland during the first Republican presidential debate in August.

“As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland, it could have worked in a different age, which is the age you are talking about here,” Trump said when asked by the moderators about his past support for single payer health care.

Of course Trump would have had to made the strategic decision to position himself to run in 2016 as a Democrat way back in 2010, before he went on his birther kick. You probably can’t win a Democratic primary as one of the leading birthers in the country.

His rhetoric on immigration also wouldn’t fly in a Democratic primary. But if he made the decision to position himself as a Democrat contender back in 2010, he would never have called for the deportation of all the illegal immigrants in the country. In fact, after Mitt Romney lost in 2012, Trump criticized the Republican contender’s rhetoric on immigration as “mean-spirited,” which suggests Trump’s instincts on illegal immigration may be less harsh than what we are seeing today

“The Democrats didn’t have a policy for dealing with illegal immigrants, but what they did have going for them is they weren’t mean-spirited about it,” Trump told Newsmax. “They didn’t know what the policy was, but what they were is they were kind.”

But if Trump made the decision to run as a Democrat in 2010, he may be even better positioned to win the Democratic presidential nomination today than he is to win the Republican nomination. The Democratic field is far smaller and with Joe Biden’s decision to not enter the race, there is no candidate opposing Hillary Clinton who people can actually imagine winning the nomination, even if Sanders could potentially threaten her in a few states.

Trump may have been that guy. He could have successfully branded Clinton as untrustworthy and even criminal over her email scandal and shady Clinton Foundation dealings, just like he negatively branded so many of his GOP foes. And it very well may have worked, just like it seems to have worked with “low-energy” Jeb Bush.

So it doesn’t take too much of an imagination to envision a world where Donald Trump is on the verge of winning the Democratic nomination. In fact, it may even be far easier to get your head around than our current reality.

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#6. To: tomder55 (#0)

In many ways, it would have been easier for Trump to enter the Democratic primary than the Republican primary. Trump was registered as a Democrat from 2001 to 2009 and donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic candidates like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid over the years. (In fairness, he has donated a lot of money to Republican candidates as well.)

He was a Republican since the 60's. Then Bush the asshole came along in 2001.

I wasn't for Republicans when Bush was in office either.

Trump like the whole country, save 3 percent don't like Bush.

Bush made a lot of peole leave the R party.

Tomder is a statist who doesn't believe in the constitution. So of course he would like Bush and his extraconstitutional activities.

Trump is smarter then you. By light years.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-14   7:29:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#6)

He was a Republican since the 60's. Then Bush the asshole came along in 2001.

He changes parties like the wind based not on core beliefs but crass opportunism .

Here is his party registrations and the dates he registered :

July 1987 Republican

October 1999 Independence Party

August 2001 Democrat

September 2009 Republican

December 2011 No party affiliation (independent)

April 2012 Republican

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-14   8:46:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tomder55 (#17) (Edited)

Speaking of switching parties. You know Reagan did. Your number one hero Guiliani did too. Opportunistic bitch he is.

From wiki. Giuliani did not serve in the military during the Vietnam War. His conscription was deferred while he was enrolled at Manhattan College and NYU Law. Upon graduation from the latter in 1968, he was classified by the Selective Service System as 1-A, available for military service. He applied for a deferment but was rejected. In 1969, Judge MacMahon wrote a letter to Giuliani's draft board, asking that he be reclassified as 2-A, civilian occupation deferment, because Giuliani, who was a law clerk for MacMahon, was an essential employee. The deferment was granted. In 1970, Giuliani received a high draft lottery number; he was not called up for service although by then he had been reclassified 1-A.[26] [27] In 1970, Giuliani joined the United States Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York.[28] In 1973, he was named Chief of the Narcotics Unit and became executive U.S. attorney.[21]

In 1975 Giuliani switched his party registration from Democratic to Independent[23] as he was recruited to Washington, D.C. during the Ford administration, where he was named Associate Deputy Attorney General and chief of staff to Deputy Attorney General Harold "Ace" Tyler.[23] His first high-profile prosecution was of Democratic U.S. Representative Bertram L. Podell (NY-13), who was convicted of corruption.[29] From 1977 to 1981, during the Carter Administration, Giuliani practiced law at the Patterson, Belknap, Webb and Tyler law firm, as chief of staff to his previous DC boss, Ace Tyler. Tyler later became critical of Giuliani's turn as a prosecutor, calling his tactics "overkill".[23]

On December 8, 1980, one month after the election of Ronald Reagan brought Republicans back to power in Washington, he switched his party affiliation from Independent to Republican.[23] Giuliani later said the switches were because he found Democratic policies "naïve", and that "by the time I moved to Washington, the Republicans had come to make more sense to me".[13] Others suggested that the switches were made in order to get positions in the Justice Department.[23] Giuliani's mother maintained in 1988 that:

He only became a Republican after he began to get all these jobs from them. He's definitely not a conservative Republican. He thinks he is, but he isn't. He still feels very sorry for the poor.[23]

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-14   9:01:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Speaking of switching parties. You know Reagan did.

No one was surprised by Reagan's switch. It was consistent with the conservative positions he had taken for years as a spokesman for GE . He campaigned for Ike in 1952 and 1956 .

In 1960 he wrote Nixon a letter declaring his support for the Vice President, as Reagan felt that Kennedy would impose communism on the US. Nixon asked that he remain a Democrat in name as Reagan's endorsement would be more effective then.

1962,He was at a campaign event supporting Nixon's run for governor. A women asked him if he had registered as a Republican yet, and he responded that he hadn't but intended to. The women happened to be a registrar and had brought a form with her for the purpose. Reagan officially switched on the spot.

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-14   9:13:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tomder55 (#25)

I was talking more about your new york city hero Rudy. Who is and was a liberal and you adore him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-14   9:16:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#26)

I was talking more about your new york city hero Rudy. Who is and was a liberal and you adore him.

He ran NYC as a conservative and was an effective Mayor . I did not support his run for President ;but would've voted for him if he was nominated .

tomder55  posted on  2015-12-14   9:19:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: redleghunter (#27)

I was talking more about your new york city hero Rudy. Who is and was a liberal and you adore him. He ran NYC as a conservative and was an effective Mayor . I did not support his run for President ;but would've voted for him if he was nominated .

Redleg. Would you ever vote for pro abortion Rudy?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-12-14   9:44:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone, tomder55 (#29)

Not for President, US Senator, nor for the House of Representatives.

He was an effective mayor as NYC politicians go.

I did not live in the City nor NY State when he was mayor. However during my military service I did visit my home state to visit with family from time to time.

When growing up near NYC and going to university in the NYC, downtown Manhattan was a dump. I would often take the Metro North to Grand Central Station and the first thing that would hit me was the smell. The 'Grand' was gone from it. Homeless living there going to the bathroom in tunnels on the tracks. You get the picture. It was not like NYC had a lack of homeless shelters either.

Went back to NYC to visit in the late 90s after not going there for several years. Took the same train, and got off at Grand Central and no smell, everything clean, the yellowed out and broken large bay windows replaced and sun finally shining through into the train station. The homeless were in homeless shelters and not living in phone booths. Walking around the tourist locations there were visible patrolling police officers. The streets were clean with no trash in site.

Rudy brought back at least the downtown area to the prominence most people remember from my parents youth. It also attracted more tourists.

So yes, from the standpoint of cleaning up the city, Rudy did a good job.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-12-14   11:56:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: redleghunter (#33)

Rudy brought back at least the downtown area to the prominence most people remember from my parents youth. It also attracted more tourists.

So yes, from the standpoint of cleaning up the city, Rudy did a good job.

I agree with that. Giuliani was an effective Mayor. He turned a lot of things around.

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