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Title: Mom & 7-year-old girl shot at soccer practice
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MLive
URL Source: http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/i ... l#incart_most_shared-ann-arbor
Published: Dec 5, 2015
Author: Ian Thibodeau
Post Date: 2015-12-05 15:01:08 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 5926
Comments: 31
TAYLOR, MI -- Seven-year-old Emma Watson Nowling was shot and killed by a family friend Thursday night after soccer practice at the Taylor Sportsplex.
She died at Children's Hospital in Detroit due to injuries sustained to the head, Taylor Police said.
Her mother, Sharon Elizabeth Watson, 37, was also shot. She is in serious, but stable condition at an area hospital, according to Taylor Police Chief Mary Sclabassi.
The man who is believed to have shot the two, Timothy Nelson Obeshaw, 57, fired rounds into the victims' vehicle and then turned the handgun on himself.
A 9 mm pistol recovered from the scene was registered to Obeshaw. He registered the weapon in his own name in September 2015 in the city of Belleville, where he at one point lived with Watson, the 7-year-old deceased, and the girl's father.
"It was a legal weapon," Sclabassi said,
Police confirmed Obeshaw also had a valid concealed pistol license.
He recently moved to a home in Taylor where he lived with at least one other individual.
Upon talking to family and friends of Obeshaw, police were told the man "believed that someone was trying to control him through mind control," Sclabassi said.
"He though someone was out to get him," she said in a Friday press conference. "Unfortunately, it appears as a result of his (instability) we now have a little girl who simply just wanted to go yesterday to play soccer, and never went home."
The initial investigation by Taylor police indicates that Obeshaw was a family friend to Watson, her daughter and the girl's father. He had lived on their property in Belleville.
Obeshaw had "taken" to the little girl, Sclabassi said. At Nowling's 6:30 p.m. soccer practice, witnesses saw the man interact with the girl. He was happy to see her, and she was happy to see him.
It was a happy interaction, police said, and Obeshaw had been at the girl's practices and games before.
When Nowling and her mother were leaving practice at around 8 p.m.
Shots rang out when Obeshaw "confronted Watson and her daughter at their vehicle."
He had driven separately.
Witnesses saw Obeshaw fire gunshots into Watson's vehicle, striking 7-year-old Nowling first, and then her mother.
He then shot and killed himself.
Police do not have a motive for the shootings aside from reported paranoia. Police have not found any criminal history, nor are they aware if Obeshaw has a history of mental illness, any official diagnosis or treatment.
Police said they have no reason to believe there was any sort of romantic involvement between Watson and Obeshaw.
Sclabassi said Friday that Watson is still undergoing procedures. She has been informed that her daughter died from the gunshot wounds.
The chief also said the shooting adds to an ongoing debate.
"Obviously if the persons close to this individual (Obeshaw) had perhaps taken the steps to make sure that he got the help he needed, he may not have been in the position to obtain the firearms that he had yesterday," she said. "It is unfortunate."
Sclabassi applauded first responders and the police who responded to the shooting.
"They did really well last night," she said.
Police do not believe Obeshaw targeted the Taylor Sportsplex, and said they're working to tie up any loose ends.
The case is contained, Sclabassi said.
Arrangements are being made for donations for Nowling and Watson's family. (1 image)
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#1. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)
Ok, what is this about? Something isn't computing.
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#2. To: Don (#1)
Upon talking to family and friends of Obeshaw, police were told the man "believed that someone was trying to control him through mind control," Sclabassi said.
Get it now, Don? The guy was mentally unstable, that is, if you believe the press reports.
#3. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
My fast skimming didn't catch that.
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#4. To: Willie Green (#0)
Upon talking to family and friends of Obeshaw, police were told the man "believed that someone was trying to control him through mind control," Sclabassi said.
Oh great another crazy fuck! How did he get the CHL let alone not on the crazy list.
#5. To: Fred Mertz, Don, Willie Green (#2)
The guy was mentally unstable, that is, if you believe the press reports.
No, no, no. From the article, Willie was pretty quick to highlight the point:
Nothing to Willie's point at all. He wants all firearms owned by the federal government.
"It was a legal weapon," Sclabassi said,
Police confirmed Obeshaw also had a valid concealed pistol license.
#6. To: buckeroo (#5)
Nothing to Willie's point at all. He wants all firearms owned by the federal government.
No, that would be way too much work for the feds...
But maybe the states could require that all firearms be registered, licensed & insured just like automobiles...
And you'd need current license tag & registration for the gun and a picture/license for the gun-owner.
The states can do all the work, and the Feds can maintain the computer to coordinate all the data. That would work much better.
#7. To: Willie Green (#6)
And you'd need current license tag & registration for the gun and a picture/license for the gun-owner.
Is that you, Adolf Hitler?
Say hey Willie, people are the problem, not guns.
#8. To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz, Don, Willie Green, politically correct murder (#5)
He wants all firearms owned by the federal government.
Willie believes that if they were tied to Federal railroad track and run over, it would stop global warming...?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#9. To: buckeroo (#5)
He isn't the only one. If things really start getting rough, they will be looking for holes in the ground.
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#10. To: Willie Green (#6)
But maybe the states could require that all firearms be registered, licensed & insured just like automobiles..
DOes that stop accidents?
Half the time no one has insurance and then another portion drive illegally. So you are right back into the same place but now big global corporate government has its dirty finger where it can only do harm.
Government is not the issue its the problem.
In this case there is no answer. Im sure this guy is a "modern miracle of pharmaceutical drugs" which he should have never been allowed to buy a gun let a lone get a CHL.
We don't live in a utopian society. We know this because the last few presidents have been absolute turds! Now we have the absolute worst president in history running the big show!
#11. To: Don (#9)
Holy crap! I better get out the rake.
#12. To: Fred Mertz (#11)
I live in an area with a high water level. Not good for hiding holes.
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#13. To: Fred Mertz (#7)
I know...
If they don't comply with all the registration/licensing/insurance requirements, then you can toss them in the pokey before they have a chance to shoot somebody. It won't nab all the riff-raff, but according to the Pareto Principle it's gotta 80% chance of stopping a good bit of them.
(Besides, the Insurance Industy has way more money than the NRA, so I have to cut them in on the action to get the GOP to backstab the gunowners.
It's all about the Money, Fred... you know that... NOT the Constitution... the MONEY.
#14. To: Justified (#4) (Edited)
the man "believed that someone was trying to control him through mind control,"Oh great another crazy fuck!
Yeah, that never happens.
The CIA Mind Control Projects
A CIA document dated 10 Feb 1954 [4] describes an experiment on the creation of unsuspecting assassins: "Miss [deleted] was then instructed (having expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [deleted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep) and failing this, she would pick up a pistol and fire it at Miss [deleted]. She was instructed that she would not hesitate to "kill." Miss [deleted] carried out these suggestions including firing the (unloaded) gun at [deleted]. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened. Miss [deleted] expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened." BB 36, 37
327 CIA mind-control victims win cash claims HUNDREDS of mentally ill patients who were subjected to barbaric CIA-funded brainwashing experiments by a Scottish doctor could be entitled to compensation Doctor Ewan Cameron, who became one of the world’s leading psychiatrists, developed techniques used by Nazi scientists to wipe out the existing personalities of people in his care. |
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts#15. To: Deckard (#14)
I heard about this some time ago and mostly forgot it. Interesting.
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#16. To: hondo68, Willie Green (#8)
I wonder how Willie recommends that the government confiscate our firearms and bullets? Tell us how you would co-ordinate the removal of firearms from the American People, willie.
#17. To: Deckard (#14)
Do you have evidence that his mind was being controlled?
Its the SOS different shooter. We will probably find He had depression, doc advised him to take some pharm drug and it burnt up his brain.
Between the gangbangers, crazy ilsamic terrorist and big pharm users our government doesn't have to do a damn thing to create crazy people! We got them in spades!
#18. To: Willie Green (#6) (Edited)
But maybe the states could require that all firearms be registered, licensed & insured just like automobiles... And you'd need current license tag & registration for the gun and a picture/license for the gun-owner. The states can do all the work, and the Feds can maintain the computer to coordinate all the data.
How do these series of actions permit a free society while the People maintain "FORCE" about a tyrannical government?
“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians.” – George Mason, co-author of the 2nd Amendment.“A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves.” – Richard Henry Lee.
“And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” – Samuel Adams.
“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence.” – George Washington
“Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?” – Patrick Henry.
“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” – Alexander Hamilton.
“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.” – Thomas Jefferson.
“To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them.” – George Mason.
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe.” – Noah Webster.
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Benjamin Franklin.
“A free people ought to be armed.” – George Washington.
“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson.
“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.” – George Washington.
#19. To: Justified (#17)
We will probably find He had depression, doc advised him to take some pharm drug and it burnt up his brain.
Just as likely that he went off his meds.
#20. To: buckeroo (#16)
I wonder how Willie recommends that the government confiscate our firearms and bullets? Tell us how you would co-ordinate the removal of firearms from the American People, willie.
Contract that out to the Private Sector... maybe somebody like Blackwater or the Pinkertons... if you fall behind on your registration/license/insurance payments, then they get to keep half of everything they confiscate for resale.
Market forces at work! Very efficient way to do it, don't you think?
#21. To: Willie Green (#20) (Edited)
Man, this is pretty good stuff. You have a solution for everything! Of course, guns and terrorism are main reasons based on 0bama's complaints about Global Warming. Do you have a solution for climate change, too?
#22. To: buckeroo (#18)
“A free people ought to be armed.” – George Washington.
That was fine 200 years ago when everything west of Fort Pitt was unsettled wilderness and half-naked savages... and single-shot muzzle-loading flintlocks were state-of-the-art technology.
So OK... you can keep the same kind of firearms that the Founding Fathers owned...
Everything else gets confiscated.
#23. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
Tomato tomoto! ;)
I think thats when it shows up after the drugs have done their damage.
#24. To: buckeroo (#21)
Do you have a solution for climate change, too?
Don't waste the "spent" nuclear fuel rods...
If you reprocess & recycle them, they have enough energy for another 10,000 years.
#25. To: Willie Green (#22)
If it wasn't flint locks it was bows if not bows it was swords if not swords it was knives.
Always some excuse. Truth is good men don't murder.
Bad men don't give a crap about laws.
So if you keep the good man from having a weapon only bad men will and then only bad things happen! Just like a shitcago! Good men are not allowed to have weapons and when they do they are prosecuted harshly and then put in prison with the same bad men he was trying to defend against. You progressive are crazy or lazy. Im not sure which but im leaning towards full out crazy because even a lazy man can learn!
#26. To: Willie Green (#22)
So OK... you can keep the same kind of firearms that the Founding Fathers owned...
Wait a minute, Willie. Hold your horses! Those kinds of firearms can kill, maim and destroy just like more modern firearms. A good example is a black powder .50 cal flintlock can take an arm off or even worse put a hole in someone's chest depriving them of the right to life.
Aren't you becoming a little deceptive now?
#27. To: buckeroo (#26)
So are you gonna outlaw bananas just because someone might slip on a banana peel and crack their skull?
Of course not...
#28. To: Willie Green (#22)
You mean the Soviets didn't lease land in the USSR to the Nazi's so they could develop weapons and tactics,and that they didn't agree to invade and divide Poland?Gee,who knew?
Then turn in your computer and buy a printing press.
There is no limit to your stupidity.
#29. To: Willie Green (#27)
Did you achieve high marks from Sarah Brady before her death? May God bless her poor, worn-out sick, soul.
#30. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
" the man "believed that someone was trying to control him through mind control," "
Sounds like a Manchurian Shooter to me.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
There are no Carthaginian terrorists.
“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton
#31. To: Willie Green (#0)
Real sad story! What a damn shame !!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't
Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.
There are no Carthaginian terrorists.
“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” - George S. Patton
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