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New Discovery! 2023 Hottest in over 120 Million Years 2024 and beyond in prophecy Questions Status: Not Logged In; Sign In Bang / Guns See other Bang / Guns Articles Title: House Republicans Introduce Bill to Ensure TSA Accepts Gun Permits as IDs Source: The Washington Free Beacon URL Source: http://freebeacon.com/issues/house- ... sa-accepts-gun-permits-as-ids/ Published: Nov 20, 2015 Author: Stephen Gutowski Post Date: 2015-11-21 05:11:59 by Roscoe Keywords: None Views: 1807 Comments: 13 House Republicans introduced a bill earlier this week that would require the Transportation Security Administration to accept certain gun carry permits as valid forms of identification. The Nondiscriminatory Transportation Screening Act, introduced by Reps. Diane Black (R., Tenn.) and Bill Flores (R., Texas), would reverse TSA policy regarding the permits. TSA policy currently excludes gun permits as an acceptable form of ID. “A weapon permit is not an acceptable form of identification,” the TSA’s guide on identification states. Click for Full Text! Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 13. #1. To: All (#0) The world is more complex than the simpletons imagine. Roscoe  posted on  2015-11-21   5:12:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Roscoe, nolu chan (#1) (Edited) The world is more complex than the simpletons imagine. Not everyone has a drivers license and state IDs are not as closely watched or verified as a gun permit is, generally speaking. The full article explains it better. . . . “A weapon permit is not an acceptable form of identification,” the TSA’s guide on identification states. The guide lists a number of other similar forms of identification such as government-issued driver’s licenses and photo IDs, as acceptable. It also includes forms of ID such as temporary paper driver’s licenses, social security cards, birth certificates, marriage licenses, and credit cards as potential alternatives to government-issued photo IDs so long as two are provided. The guide does not limit passengers to those documents and states only that one of the alternative IDs “must bear your name and other identifying information such as photo, address, phone number, social security number or date of birth.” “There is no standard list of what alternate forms of ID are acceptable,” the guide says. The guide does not give a reason for the ban on gun permits. Most states list the identifying information required by the TSA on the gun carry permits issued. Some states, such as Tennessee, also include photos on the permits they issue and require permit holders submit their fingerprints to state police. Rep. Black told the Washington Free Beacon she was inspired to create the Nondiscriminatory Transportation Screening Act after her own gun carry permit was rejected by the TSA as she tried to board a plane to Washington, D.C. “I had left my driver’s license as well as my credit card in the back pocket of my jeans because I’d gone to the store that day and didn’t take my wallet,” she said. “I thought ‘well, no problem’ because I have a state-issued ID in my gun carry permit which looks exactly like my license. It has all of the identifying information on it that my license does.” “In addition to that, you know, you have to do a background check and submit fingerprints in the state of Tennessee in order to get your gun carry permit. So I thought ‘no brainer.’ I got up to the check-in and the TSA agent said ‘I’m sorry we’re not allowed to take gun carry permits.’” Rep. Black was eventually able to board the plane thanks to a voter registration card, but the situation moved her to address the problem. She said her bill is designed to “make sure the ground rules are fair to everyone” and keep the process from being dictated by a “political agenda.” . . . So we see a gun permit in this case is almost certainly a better form of ID than a state ID card or a drivers license. And much better than some crappy voter registration card which is what the TSA used to let Rep. Black board the plane. Of course, TSA might be resistant to this because not every state's gun permits are as comprehensive as Tennessee's and TSA has to consider how to train its agents to distinguish which state gun permits will be accepted or rejected. OTOH, when I got a handgun purchase permit from my local sheriff, I just dropped into his office and chatted for an hour and he wrote one out for me, longhand. I was a known member of a longtime local family and he seemed sharp enough to know who was who in the county and who had a criminal record. So this personal anecdote indicates that TSA should not accept any state gun permit as being comparable to a Tennessee gun permit for which you have to have multiple IDs and a photo and submit your fingerprints. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-21   7:09:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: TooConservative (#2) The CCW for South Dakota doesn't have a pic or fingerprint. Better ID, I don't know. Don  posted on  2015-11-21   11:06:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Don (#12) The CCW for South Dakota doesn't have a pic or fingerprint. Better ID, I don't know. Exactly. TSA should not be required to recognize them all as equally valid documents. The Tennessee permit is an example of a gun permit that exceeds the basic identity of a drivers license or state ID card. Still, for the TSA to recognize gun permits as IDs, they would have to decide which states have adequate ID on gun permits and which don't. So it is easier for them to reject them all and stick with drivers licenses and state ID cards. I'm kinda floored that something as flimsy as a voter ID card will get you past the TSA but then we've read recently that they miss 75% of the dangerous contraband in luggage they have searched. Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-22   0:06:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 13.         There are no replies to Comment # 13. End Trace Mode for Comment # 13. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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