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Title: Archbishop Cupich lays out pathway for gay couples to receive Communion at Vatican press scrum
Source: Life Site News
URL Source: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a ... tm_term=0_0caba610ac-5afc9c4aa
Published: Oct 16, 2015
Author: John Henry Westen
Post Date: 2015-10-16 15:06:16 by redleghunter
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ROME, October 16, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) -- Archbishop Blase Cupich of Chicago — who is participating in the Synod of the Family at Pope Francis’ personal invitation — said at a press scrum in the Vatican press office this afternoon that the conscience is "inviolable" and that he believes divorced and remarried couples could be permitted to receive the sacraments, if they have "come to a decision" to do so "in good conscience" - theological reasoning that he indicated in response to a follow-up question would also apply to gay couples.

During the lengthy press briefing, the archbishop also spoke approvingly of the so-called "Kasper Proposal," which would permit divorced and remarried Catholics to receive Communion in some cases. Cupich explained that he had distributed Cardinal Walter Kasper's book, The Gospel of the Family, in which the cardinal had laid out this proposal, to all of the priests in his diocese.

“In Chicago I visit regularly with people who feel marginalized: the elderly, the divorced and remarried, gay and lesbian individuals and also couples. I think that we really need to get to know what their life is like if we’re going to accompany them,” he said.

When asked to give a concrete example of how he would accompany the divorced and remarried in their desire to receive the sacraments, Cupich replied: “If people come to a decision in good conscience then our job is to help them move forward and to respect that. The conscience is inviolable and we have to respect that when they make decisions, and I’ve always done that.”

When asked by LifeSiteNews if the notion of accompanying people to "the Sacrament" who had a clear indication of conscience to do so also applied to gay couples in the Church, Cupich indicated an affirmative answer.

“I think that gay people are human beings too and they have a conscience. And my role as a pastor is to help them to discern what the will of God is by looking at the objective moral teaching of the Church and yet, at the same time, helping them through a period of discernment to understand what God is calling them to at that point,” he said. “It’s for everybody. I think that we have to make sure that we don’t pigeonhole one group as though they are not part of the human family, as though there’s a different set of rules for them. That would be a big mistake.”

The Catholic Church teaches that while a person “must always obey the certain judgement of his conscience” the conscience, at the same time, must be formed by the “Word of God” and the “Church’s authority and her teaching” to make judgments that are “in conformity with the true good willed by the wisdom of the Creator.”

“Conscience can remain in ignorance or make erroneous judgements. Such ignorance and errors are not always free of guilt,” the Catechism of the Catholic Church states.

On Cardinal Kasper's proposal specifically, Cupich said, "I think that he has reasoned this proposal well, given the theology that he offers. I do think that we should look at a way in which people are not just accompanied but integrated and reconciled."

The archbishop had previously responded to a question, in December 2014, about giving Holy Communion to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, saying he would "not use the Eucharist or as they call it the communion rail as the place to have those discussions or weigh in which people would be either excluded from the life of the church."

Since his appointment as bishop of Spokane in 2010, Cupich has developed a reputation as one of the most "progressive" bishops in the U.S. episcopate. Last year, Pope Francis tapped Cupich to lead the Chicago archdiocese, one of the country's most prominent dioceses, previously led by the conservative Cardinal Francis George.

In 2011 Cupich, then bishop of Spokane, forbade priests in his diocese from taking part in the semi-annual 40 Days for Life pro- life prayer vigil. His response to the recent U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to redefine marriage focused primarily on decrying discrimination against homosexuals rather than criticizing the imposition of same-sex “marriage.”

The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered” and that “under no circumstances can they be approved” since they are contrary to God’s plan for sexuality.

“They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life,” states the Catechism.

The Catholic Church teaches the those who present themselves to receive Holy Communion, which Catholics believe to be the real body and blood of Jesus Christ, must be in the state of grace and be free from mortal sin, which cuts off the life of God’s grace from the soul.

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#1. To: redleghunter (#0)

Yeshua is the only person between me and total forgiveness by Our Father, the only Creator of us all. No thank you to any "church" that gets in between. I do not need a "Father" to receive communion, I am able to say a prayer and receive the gifts promised to all that accept the Way,the Truth and the Light. The era of Big Government should be over, just as the era of Big Church. When they are, the world will be a better place. Not that there is anything wrong with a group of believers gathering together to worship, there is always something wrong when these things become huge.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-10-16   15:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: redleghunter (#0)

Archbishop Blase Cupich

But back in 2005...

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-11-29-vatican-priests_x.htm

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-16   17:52:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: redleghunter (#0)

Archbishop Blase Cupich of Chicago

And just recently...

https://rapevictimsofthecatholicchurch.wordpress.com/category/archbishop-blase- cupich/

Here is an excerpt from the article...

"January 2015: Pope Francis appointed Blase Cupich archbishop of Chicago in September 2014. Fr. Michael W. O’Connell “was temporarily suspended in December 2013 after the archdiocese received an allegation of sexual misconduct involving a boy years earlier.” He was reinstated “even though the Cook County Sheriff’s Department never closed the criminal case. Weeks later, new allegations surfaced involving alleged abuse of a different boy in the 1990s.” Cupich is keeping O’Connell on the job with admonitions to “to avoid the parish school” and “not be alone with a child,” a contention that SNAP calls “ludicrous and dangerous.”

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-16   17:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jeremiad, tomder55, GarySpFc, liberator (#1)

Main purpose in posting this is the significance of how centuries of preserved Catholic catechism and Sacred tradition is now challenged. This is not a mere liberalization of some practices as in Vatican 2, but a direct attack on the very fabric of what the Catholic church stands on.

Not only is there a blatant disregard to all things Catholic in this synod but as Evangelicals we can see the blatant disregard for Holy Scriptures.

In some ways the largest church in the world seems to be joining some wayward protestant and evangelical churches who disregarded scriptures.

Post modernism thrives on a relativistic "moral" model. Where there are no absolutes other than one's own or a consensus of views. Such ignores the moral absolutes of the Law Giver Who is the uncreated Creator.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-16   19:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#2)

Interesting and shows the evolution of this synod. Good find.

Here's the Hyperlink

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-16   19:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter (#4)

Politics within the Church will destroy the good, and leave the bad to grow like mold. The Catholic church was better served before allowing modernization of thought. If something is true and pure, you do not compromise one way or another. You just leave it as is and tell those who fall away because of restrictions, good luck, and goodbye.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-10-17   0:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter (#4) (Edited)

This is not a mere liberalization of some practices as in Vatican 2, but a direct attack on the very fabric of what the Catholic church stands on.

First of all, the consistent canonical discipline permits the administering of the Sacrament of Holy Communion only to those who are properly disposed externally, and forbids it to those who are not so disposed, prescinding from the question of their internal disposition, which cannot be known with certainty.

Secondly, the discipline is required by the invisible bond of communion which unites us to God and to one another. The person who obstinately remains in public and grievous sin is appropriately presumed by the Church to lack the interior bond of communion, the state of grace, required to approach worthily the reception of the Holy Eucharist.

Thirdly, the discipline is not penal but has to do with the safeguarding of the objective and supreme sanctity of the Holy Eucharist and with caring for the faithful who would sin gravely against the Body and Blood of Christ, and for the faithful who would be led into error by such sinful reception of Holy Communion.

Fourthly, the discipline applies to any public conduct which is gravely sinful, that is, which violates the law of God in a serious matter. Certainly, the public support of policies and laws which, in the teaching of the Magisterium, are in grave violation of the natural moral law falls under the discipline.

Fifthly, the discipline requires the minister of Holy Communion to forbid the Sacrament to those who are publicly unworthy. Such action must not be precipitous. The person who sins gravely and publicly must, first, be cautioned not to approach to receive Holy Communion. The memorandum, "Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion", of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, in its fifth principle, gives the perennial pastoral instruction in the matter. This, in fact, is done effectively in a pastoral conversation with the person, so that the person knows that he is not to approach to receive Holy Communion and, therefore, the distribution of Holy Communion does not become an occasion of conflict. It must also be recalled that <> [90].

Finally, the discipline must be applied in order to avoid serious scandal, for example, the erroneous acceptance of procured abortion against the constant teaching of the moral law. No matter how often a Bishop or priest repeats the teaching of the Church regarding procured abortion, if he stands by and does nothing to discipline a Catholic who publicly supports legislation permitting the gravest of injustices and, at the same time, presents himself to receive Holy Communion, then his teaching rings hollow. To remain silent is to permit serious confusion regarding a fundamental truth of the moral law. Confusion, of course, is one of the most insidious fruits of scandalous behavior.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/CANONLAW/burkcompol.htm

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-17   6:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tomder55 (#7)

https://www.ewtn.com/library/CANONLAW/burkcompol.htm

Yes there does not seem to be much wiggle room there. So makes one wonder why this Synod was created in the first place.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-18   11:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter, *Bible Study Ping* (#5)

Interesting and shows the evolution of this synod.

Speaking of Synods thought you might find this interesting...

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/marriage-and-family/2014-2015-synods-of- bishops-on-the-family.cfm

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-18   14:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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