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Title: 2016 Texas Rangers off season thread
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Published: Oct 14, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-10-14 20:03:32 by redleghunter
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Some FA pitching decisions to make.


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Thought I would get it going.

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#1. To: CZ82, tomder55, liberator (#0)

Getting it started.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-14   20:04:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#1)

Rangers have some decisions to make on Lewis and Gallardo. If not it could be another down April. They basically have three LH starters.

This is more appropriate over here... Take your pick of Free agents in the off season, if you want someone else then you will have to make a trade... I'm not sure about this list cause it doesn't have Colby on it...

Starting Pitchers and their ages...

Brett Anderson (28)

Scott Baker (34)

Brandon Beachy (29)

Chad Billingsley (31)

Joe Blanton (35)

Clay Buchholz (31) – $13MM club option with a $245K buyout

Mark Buehrle (37)

A.J. Burnett (39)

Trevor Cahill (28)

Chris Capuano (37)

Wei-Yin Chen (30)

Bartolo Colon (43)

Johnny Cueto (30)

R.A. Dickey (41) – $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Marco Estrada (32)

Doug Fister (32)

Gavin Floyd (33)

Yovani Gallardo (30)

Jaime Garcia (29) – $11.5MM club option with a $500K buyout

Dillon Gee (30)

Zack Greinke (32) – can opt out of remaining three years/$71MM

Jeremy Guthrie (37) – $10MM mutual option with a $3.2MM buyout

J.A. Happ (33)

Aaron Harang (38)

Dan Haren (35)

Rich Hill (36)

Tim Hudson (40)

Hisashi Iwakuma (35)

Scott Kazmir (32)

Kyle Kendrick (31)

Ian Kennedy (31)

John Lackey (37)

Mat Latos (28)

Mike Leake (28)

Cliff Lee (37) – $27.5MM club option with a $12.5MM buyout

Tim Lincecum (32)

Kyle Lohse (37)

Shaun Marcum (34)

Justin Masterson (31)

Brandon Morrow (31)

Hector Noesi (29)

Sean O’Sullivan (28)

Bud Norris (31)

Mike Pelfrey (32)

David Price (30)

Jeff Samardzija (31)

Alfredo Simon (35)

Ryan Vogelsong (38)

Jerome Williams (34)

Chris Young (37)

Jordan Zimmermann (30)

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-15   17:27:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#4)

I can see JD looking hard at Cueto or Masterson.

So we have starting in April:

Hamels, Perez, Holland.

If Gallardo does not sign (he likes being home) and Lewis gone, our rotation is then rounded out by Gonzalez and Martinez.

If Gallardo or Lewis signs (think Colby bolts or retires) then we have 4 with either Gonzalez or Martinez.

So a 5 man rotation.

To get to your 6 man rotation I believe we need another veteran arm. Either a Cueto or Masterson. When Yu comes back we keep the best of the RH pitchers for the remainder of the season.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-15   19:16:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter (#5) (Edited)

I can see JD looking hard at Cueto or Masterson.

The first one will probably be too expensive to sign (he already makes 10M per year and will probably be looking for 20M) the other one has close to a career 5.00 ERA...

To sign Cueto you will have to get rid of salary somewhere else on the payroll. I can think of a player you could trade to free up salary for a bunch of prospects and a bag of used pucks!!! I'm pretty sure you know who I'm referring to...

Now if they decide not to bring Gallardo back then you just freed up at least 13M or close to 16M depending on how you look at it...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-16   18:44:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: CZ82 (#7)

I can think of a player you could trade to free up salary for a bunch of prospects and a bag of used pucks!!! I'm pretty sure you know who I'm referring to...

Man don't make me laugh that hard. Still have 5 sets of stitches:)

Yeah there is only one organization inept enough to pick up the Evis contract. I'm pretty sure you know which organization that is? Starts with an A and ends with an S.

Then again, we owe Boston a PTBNL for Napoli. Wonder if we could offload Evis there and promise to pay half. Evan Grant already said no one wants Elvis and his toxic contract. If he was playing like Correra maybe. But not even close.

I saw the article at the DFW site that the Rangers will try to part ways with L. Martin. He is eligible for arbitration and don't see meeting him half way. How you dump an arbitration player I don't remember.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-16   20:00:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: redleghunter (#11)

Yeah there is only one organization inept enough to pick up the Evis contract. I'm pretty sure you know which organization that is? Starts with an A and ends with an S.

I'm not so sure that is the case anymore they have a new GM in Billy Epler and looks like he's already making some changes, Baylor and Butcher are gone...

Besides that they already have a SS that is better than EVIS and at 1/2 the price so doubt you will find a dance partner here, especially with what they are paying Hammy to play elsewhere...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-17 07:56:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: redleghunter (#11)

He is eligible for arbitration and don't see meeting him half way. How you dump an arbitration player I don't remember.

Just non-tender him and release him...

You can do the same thing with EVIS just release him...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-17 08:11:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter (#11)

Man don't make me laugh that hard. Still have 5 sets of stitches:)

Why not, keeping you in a good frame of mind will get you up off your butt sooner... :)

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-17 09:10:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter (#11)

Then again, we owe Boston a PTBNL for Napoli. Wonder if we could offload Evis there and promise to pay half.

Don't think that will happen either they have Bogaerts as their SS and he drove in 81 runs...

You are gonna have to find someone who is in desperate need of a SS that has aspirations of the playoffs next year to make a trade. Which I don't think is going to happen I have a sneaking suspicion we're stuck with him or will just have to release him outright. (That's if Alberto or Profar shows he can handle playing everyday)... I would imagine both of them will be playing Fall and maybe Winter ball although I suspect they won't want Profar to throw very much if at all so you're looking at 1B or DH for him...

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-17 09:33:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: redleghunter (#11)

I saw the article at the DFW site that the Rangers will try to part ways with L. Martin.

You might want to add Rua to the list of departing players... Guess he decided not to go play Fall ball kinda like Martin refused to go to Arizona to stay in shape in case he was needed...

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-rangers/20151014-jeff-banister-rangers-culture-needs-work-after-decisions-by-leonys-martin-ryan-rua.ece

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-18 09:51:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: redleghunter (#11)

Evan Grant already said no one wants Elvis and his toxic contract.

The Rangers have other recourses if it really comes to that, which might not be that far down the road if Profar comes back and is playing really well...

They can always flat out release him or do a buyout on his contract which in either case wouldn't cost them that much considering Profars lower contract will offset it for most of what is left of "EVIS's" contract...

Receiving the bag of used pucks would be nice but it's not a deal breaker when you are fixing a mistake like that one...

There is a video on ESPN (under MLB and then go to Texas Rangers, scroll down about 1/2 the page) where Rick Sutcliffe is opining that EVIS will never recover from his 7th inning debacle...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:13892070

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