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Title: Hillary Clinton Goes Full Khaleesi, Sets the CNN Debate Stage on Fire
Source: The Daily Beast
URL Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl ... -cnn-debate-stage-on-fire.html
Published: Oct 14, 2015
Author: Will Rahn, Jackie Kucinich
Post Date: 2015-10-14 13:33:07 by Hondo68
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Devouring Her Rivals

With a blistering performance Tuesday night, Clinton proved that her fellow Democrats are going to need a lot more than old legislation to keep her from the Iron Throne.

Like Daenerys Targaryen, the warrior queen of Game of Thrones, Hillary Clinton moved in on her opponents Tuesday night, reminding them one by one why she will ultimately rule. All this Khaleesi was missing, it seemed, was her three hungry dragons.

Clinton knew when to look in the camera, and when to look at her opponents. And it looked like she was loving every moment of devouring her rivals.

So here’s the question: Was Clinton that good in the CNN debate, or were her opponents just that awful?

She certainly benefited from the comparison. Where Clinton was polished and prepared, the others all came off as comparatively amateurish. As they gave their answers, she stared through them as they avoided her gaze. She threw punches when she thought it was necessary. They, more or less, avoided every opportunity to punch back. She came across as strong. They all looked weak.

Clinton knew when to look in the camera, and when to look at her opponents. And it looked like she was loving every moment of devouring her rivals.

Her main rival, Bernie Sanders, sustained mortal wounds within the first few minutes.

After giving a C- answer about his relatively lax record on gun control, Clinton didn’t waste any time burning him to a crisp.

CNN moderator Anderson Cooper asked Clinton if Sanders was tough enough on gun violence. Her answer was blunt.

“No,” she said flatly. “Not at all.”

She then blasted the Vermont senator’s votes against the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, which established background checks for buying firearms, and filleted him for backing legislation that protected gun manufacturers over how their products are used.

At one point, Sanders found himself defending and shaking hands with Clinton.

Then there was her cold shaming of Martin O’Malley, who, she noted, endorsed her in 2008. Not that he was much of a foe to begin with. Between his repeated mentioning of the hot, hot—repealed—Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 (which Cooper had to define for 98 percent of the American public watching) and his claim that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad invaded Syria, it was pretty clear that the moment he so desperately needed to become more than an asterisk in the polls did not come.

O’Malley liked to tell stories, particularly about the sufferings of downtrodden black families—some of whom no doubt saw relatives arrested as a result of his “zero tolerance” policy as the mayor of Baltimore in the ’90s. At the start O’Malley talked in a stilted manner reminiscent of William Shatner, and viewers at home could be forgiven for wondering how a politician who inspired a machiavellian HBO character could be so boring.

Still, though, the night wasn’t a total loss for the former governor of Maryland. He seemed chummy in the commercial breaks with Clinton.

So even if O’Malley is far from being the Barack Obama of this cycle, maybe he can still hold out hope of being like 2004 John Edwards, the attractive guy new to national politics who can sweep in and secure the Democratic VP slot. He played that part well Tuesday night—the Hollywood screenwriter’s version of the worthwhile candidate who doesn’t stand a chance of winning.

But let’s not forget about the rest of the invited Democratic field.

There was Lincoln Chafee, the WASPy former Republican with the disconcerting, perhaps Botox-frozen smile. This would have been a good MSNBC audition had he not come across so, well, odd. When asked why he supported the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, which quite a few voters see as a cause of the 2008 financial crisis, he insisted that he couldn’t be held accountable because he was new on the job, having just been appointed to finish the Senate term of his late father.

Offstage, he complained about the lack of time he received in comparison to Clinton, Sanders, and O’Malley. Given his performance, we may never know what he may have said.

Then there was Jim Webb, the former Democratic senator running far to the right of Clinton and company. He positioned himself as the candidate of working-class whites, his natural demographic, but not a segment of the population Democrats are doing well with.

He looked like a man who hadn’t campaigned since he last ran for office in 2006—because, let’s be honest, he really hasn’t, and whatever points he could score with his war hero record were likely forfeited when he decided to complain at length about his lack of airtime.

But back to Sanders, the avuncular Democratic socialist. When it came to getting money out of politics, he won a lot of applause, though his biggest line of the night was when he defended Clinton on her private email server. But when he was pressed into areas other than economics, campaign finance, and criminal justice, he stumbled—most notably on gun control, but also on foreign policy, where he looked like a candidate desperately trying to remember his talking points.

Sanders would’ve walked away with Tuesday night’s debate if they were fighting over who would be the next congressman from a recently gentrified Brooklyn neighborhood. But on a national stage, his much-praised “authenticity” looked more like a drawback than an asset. His attempts to merge his native New Left worldview with a more modern progressive vernacular came across as awkward—it’s all well and good to “take democracy back from a handful of billionaires,” but what did he really have to say about the social issues that animate the Democratic base today?

Not that much, as it turns out. At times it felt like Sanders tended to fall asleep between questions and was caught stammering when the spotlight returned to him.

Not that Clinton is completely out of the woods—her testimony in front of the Benghazi committee next week will be watched closely by fans and critics alike. And several tranches of State Department emails have yet to be released. There’s no telling whether Clinton did enough Tuesday night to stop her slide in the polls or make voters trust her again.

But this performance was proof positive she is the top of the Democratic field—and if candidates from her party want to take her down, they are going to need a lot more than old, expired legislation and accusations about her cozy relationship with Wall Street to keep her from the Iron Throne.


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Really she's just a tired old establishment neocon globalist, no different from the average GOP candidate that you see on their debate stage.

But she can probably beat Jeb! or Rubio if the GOP is dumb enough to run either of them. (1 image)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

It's illegal to have and distrubute classified material on and from a private email account. That's all we need to know about Evita's emails.

Best line of the night was when she channelled her inner JFKerry when she said “I never took a position on Keystone until I took a position on Keystone,”

We'll know if the emperor is gunning for her if VP Biden enters the race and/or if the FBI announced an indictment .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-14   14:31:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tomder55 (#1)


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-10-14   14:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#0)

" Hillary Clinton Goes Full Khaleesi "

I just hope she does not go nude !!! Oh my God, what a despicable, frightening sight that would be, uuuuuugh!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-14   17:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#0)

Really she's just a tired old establishment neocon globalist, no different from the average GOP candidate that you see on their debate stage.

Policy wise,she and JEB are interchangeable.

Face to face with unbiased moderators in a debate,he would clean the floor with her. She really ain't very good at retail politics. CNN bailed her out with softball questions that were probably prepared for them by her staff. That's what they did when she went on Letterman last time she was running. CBS even admitted after she dropped out that she only agreed to appear on his show if her campaign had control over the questions asked.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-14   19:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tomder55 (#1)

It's illegal to have and distrubute classified material on and from a private email account.

Yes,it is. IF you are "little people"

That's all we need to know about Evita's emails.

No,you also need to understand she is going to get away with it. If push comes to shove,and it won't,she can always excuse herself by saying as the Sec of Defense SHE had the authority to determine what was classified and what wasn't. Nobody will call her on it any more than they called Barry Obomber on his birth certificate or the passport he traveled to Pakistan on.

Or anything else about him.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-14   19:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#0)

CNN moderator Anderson Cooper asked Clinton if Sanders was tough enough on gun violence. Her answer was blunt.

“No,” she said flatly. “Not at all.”

She then blasted the Vermont senator’s votes against the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, which established background checks for buying firearms, and filleted him for backing legislation that protected gun manufacturers over how their products are used.

She was for Second Amendment rights before she was against them.

For the amnesiac audience, from 2008:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/12/clinton-touts-her-experience-with-guns/

Clinton touts her experience with guns

CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby
April 12th, 2008 07:00 PM ET

VALPARAISO, Indiana (CNN) - Hillary Clinton appealed to Second Amendment supporters on Saturday by hinting that she has some experience of her own pulling triggers.

“I disagree with Sen. Obama’s assertion that people in our country cling to guns and have certain attitudes about trade and immigration simply out of frustration,” she began, referring to the Obama comments on small-town Americans that set off a political tumult on Friday.

She then introduced a fond memory from her youth.

“You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl,” she said.

“You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. It’s part of culture. It’s part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because it’s an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter.”

Minutes later, in a slightly awkward moment, Clinton faced a question from a woman in the audience whose son had been paralyzed by a gunshot. The woman asked Clinton what she would do about gun control as president.

Clinton touted her husband's record on gun control during his administration, and said "there is not a contradiction between protecting Second Amendment rights" and the effort to reduce crime.

Noting that many hunters and gun collectors want to keep weapons out of the hands of criminals, Clinton referred to her positive childhood experiences with firearms.

"As I told you, my dad taught me how to shoot behind our cottage,” she said. “I have gone hunting. I am not a hunter. But I have gone hunting."

Clinton said she has hunted ducks.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-15   0:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nolu chan (#6)

Clinton said she has hunted ducks

If she'd said that she bagged Vince Foster and dumped him in Fort Marcy Park, I'd believe her.

Her hunting record is spectacular...


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The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-10-15   0:38:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#0)

So here’s the question: Was Clinton that good in the CNN debate, or were her opponents just that awful?

Clinton was not great and her opposition were little more than clay pigeons. Three were awful and Sanders is a socialist who honeymooned in Moscow, and a conscientious objector who wants to be commander-in-chief. The "opposition" appeared to have been neutered by the DNC before the "debate."

I thought Hillary won with about a B or C performance. She did enough to show that this lot will not beat her -- it is a matter if she defeats herself with her scandal with the people suffering a relapse of Clinton fatigue, or Joe Biden or another jumps into the race. She ok when she is scripted and not under attack.

If she performed at the same level against Trump or Fiorina, she would get annihilated.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-15   0:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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