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International News Title: The Gog Of Turkey “Erdogan” Threatens The Crusader Of Russia “Putin” (The Tension Between Russia And Turkey Is Escalating) The Gog of Turkey, president Recep Tayyip Erdoan, said his country could not endure Russian violations any longer of its airspace in its campaign in Syria. Russian involvement in the 4½-year-old Syrian civil war seems to be escalating, with NATO’s secretary general confirming Tuesday a second incursion by Russian planes into Turkish airspace and saying Russian ground troops were in Syria as well. The first violation of Turkey’s airspace is reported to have happened Saturday. The second was Sunday, officials said. Now even CNN says: The tension between Russia and Turkey, however, appears to be escalating. The two countries are at odds over the civil war in Syria, with Russia backing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Such escalation came from Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan who now threatens Russia: “an attack on Turkey means an attack on Nato“. He then added: “If Russia loses a friend like Turkey, with whom it has been co-operating on many issues, it will lose a lot, and it should know that”. THEY GOT THE WRONG GOG For how many years we have been saying it, that Russia and Turkey will eventually have a major fallout while others said (even used the Bible) arguing that they will become great allies? So much for both, the secular, and the so-called prophecy analyst, who take the biblical text out of context or think that economy is the only building block for alliances. No stupid. Religion and correct understanding of history is the main drive in world affairs much more than it is the economy. One of the most major errors the West did is that it added Muslim Turkey as member of NATO in 1952, and alliance rules say that an attack on any of the 28- member states should be treated as an attack on all. So now the entire relationship between Turkey and Russia is at stake while so- called Christian nations will stand on the side of Turkey, an Antichrist nation, instead of Orthodox Russia. And now you wonder how so many will err and support Antichrist, even including so-called Bible believing Christians? While I will deal with that issue in more detail later, the question is: who is truly encroaching on who? Is Russia encroaching on Turkey’s sphere? We have maintained that Russia’s relationship as well as China’s relationship with Turkey will eventually erode: “unpleasant news from the east (China) and the north (Russia) will alarm him (Antichrist)” (Daniel 11:44). And today the evidence cannot be any clearer. HERE IS WHAT THEY WILL NEVER TEACH YOU IN SUNDAY SCHOOL The situation in Syria is only the tip of the ice-berg. The world is up-in-arms when Russian jets enter into Turkish airspace while no one sounds a peep when the Muslim Tatar in Ukraine’s Crimea complain about Orthodox Russia’s expansion into the Ukraine, a landmass that was always part of Orthodox Russia since 1783. To an Antichrist loving world, it is okay for the Muslim Gog of Turkey to expand into Syria by exporting terrorists all the way from China’s Uyghur while at the same time send floods of Muslim immigrants to Europe. The world ignores that such a “friendship” between Russia and Turkey are hindered by the Islamist uprisings influenced by Turkey against a Russian ally: Syria. An Islamist takeover of Syria will threaten Russia’s interests in the Tartus naval base, (its only Mediterranean proxy naval opening). That including Turkey’s establishments of an Islamic alliance which will contradict Russia’s and China’s interests and is why Turkey will be threatened from the East (China) and the North (Russia) in the future battle of all battles. Few understand the schism and conflict. From China we have the Muslim Urumqi uprising in Xinjiang’s China with Muslim Uyghur-Turks who sparks major rift in Turkey’s China relations, leading to a boycott of Chinese goods and China not wanting to lose the Xinjiang region to Turkey. The Xinjiang issue continues to rankle, Turkey adopting its Islamist heritage, that with a rift with Russia will cause it to eventually crumble. Now you know what this “unpleasant news from the east” (China) is all about. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 7. During the Ottoman Empire, a staple of American apocalyptic was to identify Turkey as the Gog/Magog because it was a strong power located north of historic Israel and a great northern power is indicated in prophecy. During the Cold War, Russia and the USSR generally was considered the leading Gog/Magog candidate. Of course, Rome was a northern empire from Israel as well. And NATO, of which Turkey is a member now, is also a great power of the north.
#3. To: TooConservative (#1) (Edited) What is true north from Jerusalem?
#5. To: A K A Stone (#3) (Edited) In order:
But the references are to a general great power (or coalition) of the north with no mention of "true north" or "due north" or modern concepts of location and heading. I always thought it made sense to think of a Gog/Magog as a great power in the northern hemisphere, a coalition of nations led by a superpower. That would leave only Russia and its handful of allies or America/NATO. And Russia is not a great power by the standards of America/NATO or China. Russia still has a large nuclear arsenal and a shaky second-rate military they are trying to professionalize and upgrade from the decade of complete neglect of the military in the post-Soviet debacle. Putin complains about this when he laments the breakup of the USSR. Not that he wants it back, he just objects to how disruptive the breakup was economically and militarily.
#6. To: TooConservative, Bob Celeste (#5) Turkey Interesting. I don't know who it is. I'm not the expert. If I'm not mistaken the capital of Turkey runs exactly north of Jerusalem. Also if you go real far north you have the U.S.A.
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6) If I'm not mistaken the capital of Turkey runs exactly north of Jerusalem. Moscow is as close but farther north. Gog/Magog is usually interpreted as meaning a leader (king) and his empire. Or it might be a superpower and its allies, like America/EU/NATO or Russia and its mostly ragtag allies.
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