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Title: America's new daily habit, mass shooting du jour
Source: Chattanooga Times - Free Press
URL Source: http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/ ... t-mass-shooting-du-jou/328492/
Published: Oct 3, 2015
Author: Pam Sohn
Post Date: 2015-10-03 08:06:18 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 4006
Comments: 36

This year alone — the past nine months and 2 days — Americans have heard news about 294 mass shootings (four or more people injured or killed by a gun and a shooter).

Tuesday was the 275th day of the year, so in 2015 we've had, on average, a mass shooting every 22 and a half hours.

This year alone, we've had 45 school shootings — more than one a week, to date. And there have been 142 school shootings since the Dec. 14, 2012, massacre in Newtown, Conn.

As of Friday morning, 9,957 people in the United States have been killed by gun violence — just this year.

At least 20,269 have been injured by a firearm — just since Jan. 1.

On average, seven children and teens die every day from gun violence. Five are murdered and two kill themselves.

America's gun homicide rate is 20 times higher than the homicide rates of other developed countries.

Given these horrendous numbers, it is disgusting that Congress and most state legislatures are doing nothing to stem mass shootings and pass sensible gun laws — sensible gun laws that most Americans and most gun owners support. Those sensible gun laws would be universal background checks that are applicable to all sales — private sales and gifts, as well as commercial sales. And those background checks need to have a viable, reasonable way to screen for mental illness in a way that can't be trumped by medical privacy laws.

In the aftermath of Thursday's mass shooting at Umpqua Community College in Oregon, where at least nine people and the gunman died and at least seven others were wounded, President Obama — for the 15th time in his tenure in the White House — condemned the routine nature of gun violence and mass shootings. He called on Americans to insist that Congress and state legislatures do more to stop the madness.

On Tennessee's Capitol Hill, however, the response from our inane Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey was just the opposite Friday. He encouraged "fellow Christians" to arm themselves because the mentally ill Oregon gunman reportedly singled out Christians.

Ramsey, the Republican Senate speaker, in a Facebook posting said: "[w]hile this is not the time for widespread panic, it is a time to prepare. I would encourage my fellow Christians who are serious about their faith to think about getting a handgun carry permit. I have always believed that it is better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it. Our enemies are armed," Ramsey said. "We must do likewise."

The National Rifle Association owns our state politicians and most of our Congress members. And the NRA of today is not our grandpa's NRA. Today, gunmakers, not sportsmen or gun collectors, own and fund the NRA. That is why sensible gun laws are not enacted.

The Oregon shooter had no criminal convictions, but was widely acknowledged by his family to have had mental issues. He had served a month in the military before being discharged "for failing to meet the minimum administrative standards to serve in the U.S. Army." His family could have gone to a court and asked the court to declare him mentally ill — even take take away his guns. They apparently did not see a need to do that, and actually helped arm him. At the school and the gunman's home, police found that he had at least 13 guns — all puchased legally by himself or his family.

This has to stop. This is not about gun control and its not about banning guns. America needs sensible universal background checks with enforcement limits to keep guns out of the hands of people with mental, emotional and anger issues.


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

The Oregon shooter had no criminal convictions, but was widely acknowledged by his family to have had mental issues.

Speculation by the family or are there are actual records of his problems???

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-03   8:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: CZ82 (#1)

Speculation by the family or are there are actual records of his problems???

It doesn't go into specifics, but the high school he attended in Kalifornia apparently specializes in emotionally disturbed kids. It'll probably take a court order to get the school to release the kid's confidential records.

Switzer Center: Oregon shooter’s Torrance school specializes in behavior problems

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-03   9:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green, nolu chan, Too Conservative, redleghunter (#2)

It'll probably take a court order to get the school to release the kid's confidential records.

ObamaCare is perhaps the ultimate in busybody politics. People who have never even run a drugstore, much less a hospital, blithely prescribe what must be done by the entire medical system, from doctors to hospitals to producers of pharmaceutical drugs to health insurance companies.

This includes federal laws requiring the turning over of patients’ confidential medical records to the federal government, where these records can be looked at by politicians, bureaucrats and whoever can hack into the government’s computers. Neither you nor your doctor has a right to keep this information confidential.

http://capitalismmagazine.com/2013/08/busybody-politics/

Not anymore ObamaCare supposedly bypasses that requirement...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-03   10:22:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#0)

"This year alone — the past nine months and 2 days — Americans have heard news about 294 mass shootings (four or more people injured or killed by a gun and a shooter)."

That's it? Hell, most of those were drive-bys on the South side of Chicago.

But that's black-on-black killing so nobody reports it.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-10-03   11:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#3)

What we need is a gun control law preventing the Obama administration from giving assault weapons to the Mexican drug cartels, a la fast and furious (or various "rebel" terrorists).

Which kills more, nuts in gun free school zones, or drug cartel murderers with U.S. government supplied assault weapons?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211289/Operation-Fast-Furious-Guns-failed-gun-program-used-2010-Mexico-massacre.html

Revealed: Operation Fast and Furious guns used in 2010 Mexico massacre of 16 people - including 14 TEENS

• 16 people were killed in 2010 massacre at birthday party

• Attorney General Eric Holder cleared of any wrongdoing in report two weeks ago that said he should have been briefed

• Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson quit as report was released

• Operation Fast and Furious was a failed gun-trafficking probe

By Associated Press And Daily Mail Reporter Published: 11:00 Est, 1 October 2012
Updated: 11:14 Est, 1 October 2012

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-03   22:06:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#0)

uesday was the 275th day of the year, so in 2015 we've had, on average, a mass shooting every 22 and a half hours.

I guess you would rather be raped and beaten to death then shot since criminals will never abide by gun laws than be given a chance to defend yourself. Well thats fine. Get raped and murdered but for the rest of us we prefer a chance at defending ourselves. The more they make laws against legal honest citizens the more often these mass murderings will happen. Data proves it and as you see the places that are the heaviest regulated are the ones with the most gun violence.

BTW if not guns it would be knives if not knives it would be hatchets. If not hatchets it would be bats. If not bats it would be spoons!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-03   23:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Justified (#6) (Edited)

If not bats it would be spoons!


Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-04   6:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Justified (#6)

I guess you would rather be raped and beaten to death then shot since criminals will never abide by gun laws than be given a chance to defend yourself. Well thats fine.

You guess wrong. I would rather be protected by trained law enforcement professionals and lock these violent offenders away for life so there's no chance of repeat offenders.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-04   9:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Willie Green (#8)

You guess wrong. I would rather be protected by trained law enforcement professionals and lock these violent offenders away for life so there's no chance of repeat offenders.

Unless you keep an officer in your pocket this is a pipe dream. Just think we are having issues finding enough qualified officers just to keep basic crime down to a crazy level and you want Amerika to hire 10 times more officers? There isn't enough money in fort knox to cover the salaries let alone lawsuits from their crime against citizens!

You guys really need to think before deciding. The more you restrict society, the more you steal citizens money in taxes, the more you push ungodly laws upon the land the more people are going to break. When all is good you tend not to have mass killings. Get use to the OBAMA society. Thanks to stupid voters we get the crazies coming out of the woodwork.

The biggest issue we have today is mental illness. It was progressives that said we could not have sanitariums or government could not help these people. So you get these mass murders on the street. You get crazy people on the corner begging for money to do drugs.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-04   9:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Willie Green (#0)

Post your libtarded anti gun propaganda somewhere else, choo choo boy.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-04   10:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Willie Green (#8)

I would rather be protected by trained law enforcement professionals and lock these violent offenders away for life so there's no chance of repeat offenders.

What a wuss.

If you're robbed you will not be able to call your government to help you out. The criminals will just kill you and spit on your corpse as they laugh at what a fool you are.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-04   10:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green (#8) (Edited)

You guess wrong. I would rather be protected by trained law enforcement professionals and lock these violent offenders away for life so there's no chance of repeat offenders.

The cops can't be there all the time or on time... they aren't there to protect your tree hugging ass. Put your big boy pants on and protect yourself... or ask your family to suck it up and not cry when your sheeple ass gets shot and you ain't carrying nothing but a Bernie Sanders flyer.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-04   10:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GrandIsland (#12)

Bernie Sanders, he's my man!

If Jim Webb can't do it then Bernie can!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-04   10:15:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Justified, GrandIsland aka yukon, AKA Stone (#9)

Piss on you anti-government goobers. As a law-abiding citizen, I don't mind complying with reasonable firearm regulation. Yes, I own firearms for self-protection as a last resort... but that's exactly what it is, a last resort. Professional Law Enforcement for our community is our primary defense against violent criminal activity... NOT a bunch of gun-toting 2nd Amendment vigilante dingbats.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-04   11:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Willie Green (#14)

gun-toting 2nd Amendment vigilante dingbats.

You are imagining again, Willie. There aren't any.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-04   11:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green (#14) (Edited)

as a last resort... but that's exactly what it is, a last resort.

Your weapons are your first resort, sheep-boy. Your relying on the cops to save you is as ignorant as Bucky's unwillingness to amass reloading supplies.

When we economically collapse... let me know how well your plan to hide behind LE works out.

Weakness disgusts me.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-04   11:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GrandIsland (#16)

Bucky's unwillingness to amass reloading supplies.

Say what?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-10-04   11:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Willie Green (#14)

To: Willie Green (#0) ---- Post your libtarded anti gun propaganda somewhere else, choo choo boy.---- GrandIsland

To: GrandIsland aka yukon ---- Piss on you anti-government goobers. --- Willie Green

Gotta love Willie's insane concept that grandisland is anti-government.

But is he right about Yukon being grandisland?

Got any proof Willie?

tpaine  posted on  2015-10-04   11:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: tpaine (#18)

Your Deckard like conspiracy theory is PHUNNY.

Maybe next you'll think I'm ba ba Bucky... because you're PHUNNY

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-04   11:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Willie Green (#14)

Piss on you anti-government goobers. As a law-abiding citizen, I don't mind complying with reasonable firearm regulation.

What is reasonable? Only elites and government have protection?

Yes, I own firearms for self-protection as a last resort... but that's exactly what it is, a last resort.

Well I hope you don't go shooting people just because its fun?

Professional Law Enforcement for our community is our primary defense against violent criminal activity...

Primary defense is you the citizen and secondary defense is the local police. Thats the problem with inner city people. LEO can not be right there. If you do not have the ability or desire to defend yourself then why would the police care?

To me it seems as if you really believe in people should not defend themselves. You seem to think government is the only action and that by defending yourself[property, family and friends] you are doing harm and should be punished.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-04   12:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Justified (#20)

Primary defense is you the citizen and secondary defense is the local police. Thats the problem with inner city people. LEO can not be right there. If you do not have the ability or desire to defend yourself then why would the police care?

Exactly.

There wasn't more I despised than an unarmed sheep victim. LE carries guns to protect themselves... not the sheep like Willie.

Willie lives near me in southern Pa... he ain't that urban.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-04   12:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: tpaine (#18)

But is he right about Yukon being grandisland?

Got any proof Willie?

No smoking gun... But if it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck and still isn't yukon, then I figure he must be yukon's gay doppleganger.

Yukon has been unbanned

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-04   12:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland (#21)

Willie lives near me in southern Pa... he ain't that urban.

No I don't... I grew up in a suburb of Pittsburgh, but haven't lived in PA for almost 35 years...
Over the years I've been in NC, MD. KY. MI, NV & TX... currently in a suburb of Houston.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-04   12:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Willie Green (#23)

What part of Kentucky, man?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-10-04   12:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: GrandIsland (#19)

Gotta love Willie's insane concept that grandisland is anti-government.

But is he right about Yukon being grandisland?

Your Deckard like conspiracy theory is PHUNNY.

It's no theory that you're pro-government. You and misterwhite demonstrate your love for big brother every day you post.

Maybe next you'll think I'm ba ba Bucky... because you're PHUNNY

I really dont give a rat's ass who you used to post as; -- It's your never ending disrespect for our Constitution that disgusts me...

tpaine  posted on  2015-10-04   13:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Willie Green (#14)

Professional Law Enforcement for our community is our primary defense against violent criminal activity... NOT a bunch of gun-toting 2nd Amendment vigilante dingbats.

These knife vigilantes will have you chopped up into stir fry sized chunks by the time the police arrive...


While MSM Talks Gun Control, 50 are Killed in Knife Attack in China

" Sadly, there are people in this world who wish to harm others, and people in that mindstate will use any tools at their disposal to accomplish their horrific goals."


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-10-04   13:53:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tpaine (#25)

Shut your kookifornian pie hole. What I disrespect is your constitutional scholar PH.D. that you think you have from OutHouse University.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-04   14:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Fred Mertz (#24)

Lexington

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-04   17:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#27)

It's no theory that you're pro-government. You and misterwhite demonstrate your love for big brother every day you post.

Maybe next you'll think I'm ba ba Bucky... because you're PHUNNY.

I really dont give a rat's ass who you used to post as; -- It's your never ending disrespect for our Constitution that disgusts me..

What I disrespect is your constitutional scholar PH.D. that you think you have from OutHouse University.

I have no degree. --- And you demonstrate no respect for our Constitution.

tpaine  posted on  2015-10-04   18:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: tpaine (#25)

But is he right about Yukon being grandisland?

Do you believe in co-inky dinks, tpaine?

yukon's last post here at LF was 2015-01-18
GrandIsland's first post was a mere 5 days later: 2015-01-23

Like I said... yukon's gay doppleganger.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-04   19:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Willie Green (#30)

Yukon is not grandisland.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-04   19:58:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Willie Green (#30)

You returned here after 7 years of not being here on 2015-01-14. By your logic you must be yukon.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-04   20:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#31)

Yukon is not Grandisland

Thank you.

I was gonna let him spin his last two brain cells trying to investigate his charade.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-10-04   20:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#31)

Yukon is not grandisland.

Here's a new vocabulary word for you:

doppelgänger
  • someone who looks like someone else
  • a ghostly counterpart of a living person
  • evil twin

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-05   8:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#32)

You returned here after 7 years of not being here on 2015-01-14. By your logic you must be yukon.

Apparently logic isn't your forte, is it?

There is a 4-day overlap during which the yuktard posted 10 replies to me and I responded 6 times to him.

In comparison, due to the gap in their participation dates, yukon & his gay doppelganger obviously never posted to each other.
The doppelganger just mysteriously appeared right AFTER yukon disappeared...

Besides, yukon never came back, even after he was unbanned.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-10-05   8:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Willie Green (#34)

I know what a doppleganger is. I used to play D&D.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-05   9:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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