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Title: Blame America? No, Blame Neocons!
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The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity
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Published: Sep 20, 2015
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2015-09-20 20:26:08 by Hondo68
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Keywords: bad US policy, Military Industrial Complex
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Is the current refugee crisis gripping the European Union “all America’s fault”? That is how my critique of US foreign policy was characterized in a recent interview on the Fox Business Channel. I do not blame the host for making this claim, but I think it is important to clarify the point.
It has become common to discount any criticism of US foreign policy as “blaming America first.” It is a convenient way of avoiding a real discussion. If aggressive US policy in the Middle East – for example in Iraq – results in the creation of terrorist organizations like al-Qaeda in Iraq, is pointing out the unintended consequences of bad policy blaming America? Is it “blaming America” to point out that blowback – like we saw on 9/11 – can be the result of unwise US foreign policy actions like stationing US troops in Saudi Arabia?
In the Fox interview I pointed out that the current refugee crisis is largely caused by bad US foreign policy actions. The US government decides on regime change for a particular country – in this case, Syria – destabilizes the government, causes social chaos, and destroys the economy, and we are supposed to be surprised that so many people are desperate to leave? Is pointing this out blaming America, or is it blaming that part of the US government that makes such foolish policies?
Accusing those who criticize US foreign policy of “blaming America” is pretty selective, however. Such accusations are never leveled at those who criticize a US pullback. For example, most neocons argue that the current crisis in Iraq is all Obama’s fault for pulling US troops out of the country. Are they “blaming America first” for the mess? No one ever says that. Just like they never explain why the troops were removed from Iraq: the US demanded complete immunity for troops and contractors and the Iraqi government refused.
Iraq was not a stable country when the US withdrew its troops anyway. As soon as the US stopped paying the Sunnis not to attack the Iraqi government, they started attacking the Iraqi government. Why? Because the US attack on Iraq led to a government that was closely allied to Iran and the Sunnis could not live with that! It was not the US withdrawal from Iraq that created the current instability but the invasion. The same is true with US regime change policy toward Syria. How many Syrians were streaming out of Syria before US support for Islamist rebels there made the country unlivable? Is pointing out this consequence of bad US policy also blaming America first?
Last year I was asked by another Fox program whether I was not “blaming America” when I criticized the increasingly confrontational US stand toward Russia. Here’s how I put it then:
I don't blame America. I am America, you are America. I don't blame you. I blame bad policy. I blame the interventionists. I blame the neoconservatives who preach this stuff, who believe in it like a religion -- that they have to promote American goodness even if you have to bomb and kill people.
In short, I don’t blame America; I blame neocons.
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In short, I don’t blame America; I blame neocons.
RINO's say that "neocon" is another term for Jew, so according to RINO's the statement really means "In short, I don’t blame America; I blame Jews."
#2. To: nativist nationalist, REAL Republicans, anti-American globalists zio-tools (#1)
RINO's say that "neocon" is another term for Jew,
RINO's say America first, Israel is on their own. That's me.
Genuine globalist REAL Republicans kiss Bibi Netanyahu's Saudi Royal ass. RINO's are the good guys.
How could you possibly miss that obvious basic fact? Carry on with kissing Netanyahu's ass.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#3. To: hondo68 (#0)
In short, I don't blame America; I blame neocons.
Who do you think elected those neocons?
Dipshit.
Then again, Ronny, I don't expect you to understand. You think like your rabid cult following. They say... In short, I don't blame politicians for drug laws; I blame the cops.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#4. To: GrandIsland, America last, globalist neocon voters, misterwhite, A K A Stone, Gatlin, GOP zombies, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#3)
Who do you think elected those neocons?blame politicians for drug laws
You, misterwhite, A K A Stone, Hillary, John F'n Kerry, Lindsey Graham, and the neotard nation.
You voted for the D&R drug cartel. You get your cut of drug sales in your check.
Sales profits would drop, if drugs were just another market commodity, so you oppose liberty in favor of drug profits.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#5. To: hondo68 (#4)
"Sales profits would drop, if drugs were just another market commodity"
In your dreams. The price of legal medical marijuana is the same as illegal recreational marijuana.
But I guess you're saying that what this country needs is yet another legal recreational drug at a price so low even 12-year- olds can afford it.
#6. To: misterwhite, nanny, fascist government Keynesian economics (#5)
The price of legal medical marijuana is the same as illegal recreational marijuana.
That's nowhere near being a free market commodity. It's the government interference, taxes, regulations, and nanny state crap, that keep prices high.
It's the same with the whole over-regulated, overtaxed, and over nannied US economy. Get the hell out of the way and let America prosper, control freak!
End the FED, abolish the IRS!
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#7. To: hondo68 (#4)
Grandisland ~ Who do you think elected those neocons?Hondo ~ You, misterwhite, A K A Stone, Hillary, John F'n Kerry, Lindsey Graham, and the neotard nation.
Negative, drug lover. YOUR PEERS voted for them. Just like you don't get to choose EVERY peer that sits for your jury during your trial, you don't get to pick and choose who's your peers that vote. YOUR SHEEPLE PEERS voted them in... and you'd better start getting pissed at your neighbors, relatives, community members and friends... because they've served you the shit soup you hate to slurp down. Stop blaming the cook... your peers ordered it.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#8. To: hondo68 (#6)
End the FED, abolish the IRS!
Run for president, and command with your pen and cellphone... end it yourself. Until then, shut your shit flaps.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
#9. To: hondo68 (#4)
Sales profits would drop, if drugs were just another market commodity,
Not only that,but all those investors that own stock in Prison USA,INC would lose money.
Crime might not pay for the street-level criminals,but it sure as hell pays for the ones on Wall Street.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
#10. To: hondo68 (#0)
The Hobbit king reemerges from middle earth to spout more incoherent foreign policy rhetoric. He even managed to work in the code word "neocons." Given more practice ( before he becomes a complete drooling bedridden senile idiot), he might even manage to work in such catch phrases as "Haliburton," and "war for oil."
Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president
#11. To: hondo68 (#0)
Blame America? No, Blame Neocons!
No, blame a nation of morons who don't pay attention to anything above the mental level of Opra or The View.
#12. To: hondo68 (#0)
The greatest threat to the United States of America is not Iran, it is the ObamIt administration, the Supreme Court, and Congress.
The next greatest threat is the Governors and Legislatures of the States that will not stand up with Article Nine of the Bill of Rights in their left hand and Article Ten of the Bill of Rights in their right hand, while stating that their state will no longer be subservient to Washington.
I am not just and American, I am a citizen of the United States of America.
All men women and children living on the continent of the Americas are Americans, but only we who live in the 50 States that make up the United States of America are US Citizens.
I am a Christian man, a Christian Citizen of The United States, I resent being simply called an American.
#13. To: GrandIsland, misterwhite, Y'ALL (#7)
Grandisland ~ Who do you think elected those neocons?
Hondo ~ You, misterwhite, A K A Stone, Hillary, John F'n Kerry, Lindsey Graham, and the neotard nation.
Get the hell out of the way and let America prosper, control freak!
The grandiose/irrational one responds: ---
Negative, drug lover. YOUR PEERS voted for them.
Bizarre comment. Why would anti-prohibitionists vote for prohibitionists?
Just like you don't get to choose EVERY peer that sits for your jury during your trial, you don't get to pick and choose who's your peers that vote. YOUR SHEEPLE PEERS voted them in... and you'd better start getting pissed at your neighbors, relatives, community members and friends... because they've served you the shit soup you hate to slurp down. Stop blaming the cook... your peers ordered it.
Babble on in your knee jerk way. -- Misterwhite and you have become this forums jokesters.
#14. To: hondo68 (#6)
"That's nowhere near being a free market commodity. It's the government interference, taxes, regulations, and nanny state crap, that keep prices high."
That's as much a free market commodity as it's going to get, bucko. Why should your commodity be exempt from government interference, taxes, regulations, and nanny state crap?
You got your legal "medical" marijuana. Go smoke some for your "pain" and leave the rest of us alone.
#15. To: misterwhite, chicom totalitarians, Globalist tools, neocons (#14)
Go smoke someWhy should your commodity be exempt from government interference.
leave the rest of us alone.
I don't do drugs or alcohol. I'm pro liberty, not pro drugs.
No exemption was requested, buzz off across the board since everything is over-regulated to death by tyrannical gov aholes. You've done wonders for the Chinese economy, now move there!
Buzz off!
Chicom Republican totalitarians
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#16. To: misterwhite (#14)
hondo68 (#6) --- "That's nowhere near being a free market commodity. It's the government interference, taxes, regulations, and nanny state crap, that keep prices high."
That's as much a free market commodity as it's going to get, bucko. Why should your commodity be exempt from government interference, taxes, regulations, and nanny state crap ?
Gotta love that comment from misterwhite..
In effect he's supporting commodities NOT being exempt from government interference, taxes, regulations, and nanny state crap, --- just as he's implied many times before.
You got your legal "medical" marijuana. Go smoke some for your "pain" and leave the rest of us alone.
No way will we ever leave you prohibitionists alone , bucko, -- it's way past due to cut you anti-constitutional creeps off at the knees.
#17. To: nativist nationalist, hondo68 (#1)
RINO's say that "neocon" is another term for Jew, so according to RINO's the statement really means "In short, I don’t blame America; I blame Jews."
RINO's say that "neocon" is another term for Jew, so according to RINO's the statement really means "In short, I don’t blame America; I blame Jews."
Neo-cons are RINOs. They are Israel-first liberals (Christian and Jew), predominantly from the northeast and the left coast. They fiscally support unlimited spending and unending war with no achievable military objective.
Paleo-conservatives are the non-RINOs. The support limited government and limited spending and fighting war only to win and be done with it.
Paleos say America first. Good luck to Israel and everyone else, but it is not our duty to fight their wars or pay their bills.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism_and_paleoconservatism
#18. To: nolu chan (#17)
Paleo-conservatives are the non-RINO
Look at the GOP leadership positions, and most of the candidates... neocons!
RINO's are the paeloconservative/paelolibertarian patriots. I consider myself a paleolibertarian.
The globalist leftist neocon REAL Reupublicans, McCain and Romney lost! So maybe the voters want RINO's? Real Republicans SUCK!
The Wiki definition is wrong, D&R party globalist spin.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul#19. To: hondo68 (#18)
Look at the GOP leadership positions, and most of the candidates... neocons!RINO's are the paeloconservative/paelolibertarian patriots. I consider myself a paleolibertarian.
The GOPe leadership consists of RINO (Republican in Name Only) Neo-Conservatives, conservatives in name only.
Before the Neo-Cons remade themselves from far left liberals, the conservatives of the GOP were the paleo-conservatives. They are the real, original GOP conservatives, not this group that emerged from the leadership of Leo Strauss, Irving Kristol, William Kristol, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle, and Paul Bremer, et al.
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