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Title: Trump Doesn’t Refute Comment on Obama, Muslims
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Published: Sep 19, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-09-19 06:33:37 by tpaine
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Trump Doesn’t Refute Comment on Obama, Muslims

At his first post-debate campaign event, Republican front-runner Donald Trump on Thursday declined to refute a questioner who declared that Muslims are a “problem” in America and reiterated the long-debunked rumor that President Barack Obama is a Muslim.

The first question to Mr. Trump at a town hall rally in Rochester, N.H., came from a man who asserted, “We’ve got a problem in this country, it’s called Muslims. We know the president is one.” He added: “You know he’s not even an American.”

The questioner went on to ask Mr. Trump what he would do to address Muslim “training camps” in the U.S., where people “want to kill us.” He concluded: “That’s my question. When can we get rid of ‘em?”

Mr. Trump acknowledged the question but didn’t refute the premise. “We’re going to be looking a lot of different things. A lot of people are saying that and a lot of people are saying bad things are happening out there.”

Mr. Trump, who in 2011 pushed the false notion that Mr. Obama is not a natural- born citizen and pushed for him to release his birth certificate until the White House finally did so, did not address the man’s contention that Mr. Obama, who is a Christian, is Muslim.

The allegation that Mr. Obama is Muslim has long festered among some Republicans. In October 2008 then-GOP presidential nominee John McCain scolded a woman at a Minnesota town hall event who said Mr. Obama couldn’t be trusted because “he’s an Arab.”

Mr. McCain seized the microphone from the woman.

“No, ma’am, no, ma’am,” he said. “He’s a decent family man, citizen, that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what this campaign’s all about. He’s not.”

Mr. Trump made no such admonition.

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#1. To: All (#0)

The first question to Mr. Trump at a town hall rally in Rochester, N.H., came from a man who asserted, “We’ve got a problem in this country, it’s called Muslims. We know the president is one.” He added: “You know he’s not even an American.”

An assertion is NOT a question. Trump had no responsibly to respond.

The questioner went on to ask Mr. Trump what he would do to address Muslim “training camps” in the U.S., where people “want to kill us.” He concluded: “That’s my question. When can we get rid of ‘em?”

Good question. -- Even better: --- Do you agree we should get rid of them?

Mr. Trump acknowledged the question but didn’t refute the premise.

Good for him.

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-19   7:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tpaine (#0)

Trump Doesn’t Refute Comment on Obama, Muslims

Why would he refute the truth?

Only slaves of the democrat refute the truth, for they serve the father of liars, the democrat.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-19   7:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BobCeleste (#2)

--- muslims. We know the president is one.” He added: “You know he’s not even an American..

Why would he refute the truth?

Because the comment was debatable, and Trump wisely didn't want that debate at that time?

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-19   7:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tpaine (#0)

" Trump Doesn’t Refute Comment on Obama, Muslims "

Why should he? After all, Trump did not make the comment. Its not his job to defend Ovomit. Ovomit is a big boy, he, or his followers can defend him.

Besides, why is it that the people that are getting upset about this are the first ones to defend muslims, they attack people who say anything negative about muslims, they want to bring more muslims to the US, and the boo hoo hoo about the muslim refugees in Europe. Yet when someone says Ovomit is a muslim, then they act like a muslim is a bad thing.

I still remember when Ovomit made the comment to George Stephenopolis about his "muslim faith"

Now they want to claim Ovomit is a Christian. If Ovomit is a Christian, I am a Martian.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-09-19   9:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tpaine (#0)

The left with their fellow travelers seem to be very afraid of the Donald; or is the whole thing a Dog and Pony show? Their are many traitors today in the Government and out, so how can we be sure of who is or isn't? Perhaps, the wisest course of action is to simply assume they all are? But, that is falling into a clever trap. If you aren't sure of who is trustworthy, it is easy to look at all as untrustworthy. Divide and conquer is still a viable method of conquering.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-09-19   9:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Stoner (#4)

"Now they want to claim Ovomit is a Christian."

Of course. Because his mother was a Christian. Then again, his mother is white and they call Obama an African-American.

Probably because his father was an African-American. Then again, his father was a Muslim.

I got it. Obama is black like his father and Christian like his mother.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-19   9:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

" I got it. Obama is black like his father and Christian like his mother "

CORRECTION:

Obama is black MUSLIM like his father and WHITE TRASH like his mother.

There, fixed it, LOL

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-09-19   9:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Don (#5)

From the article:

The questioner went on to ask Mr. Trump what he would do to address Muslim “training camps” in the U.S., where people “want to kill us.” He concluded: “That’s my question. When can we get rid of ‘em?”

Mr. Trump acknowledged the question but didn’t refute the premise. “We’re going to be looking a lot of different things. A lot of people are saying that and a lot of people are saying bad things are happening out there.”

Don: -- The left with their fellow travelers seem to be very afraid of the Donald; or is the whole thing a Dog and Pony show?

I'd say they're really afraid..

Their are many traitors today in the Government and out,

Yep, we even see them here at LF, where most of them pretend to be conservative, like misterwhite..

So how can we be sure of who is or isn't? Perhaps, the wisest course of action is to simply assume they all are?

Yep. Guys like misterwhite are playing a long game, pretending to like Trump, but they are really convinced he could never win, -- thus paving the way for their REAL choice. -- A communitarian..

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-19   9:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#6)

Mister white, you have been firmly outed. You are a leftist after all.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-09-19   9:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Don (#9)

"Mister white, you have been firmly outed. You are a leftist after all."

Now, now. Perhaps you should follow the advice of your own psalm.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-19   10:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#10)

The aim is to tell the truth. Isn't that a Christian thing?

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-09-19   10:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tpaine (#0)

Why is it incumbent on anyone but Obama to defend himself? Not only do the fascists want us to tow their line, but they want us to repeat the line after them. I WILL NOT COMPLY.

jeremiad  posted on  2015-09-19   10:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tpaine, LF (#0)

The questioner went on to ask Mr. Trump what he would do to address Muslim “training camps” in the U.S., where people “want to kill us.” He concluded: “That’s my question. When can we get rid of ‘em?”

The first "question" isn't a single question. It's a rat-tat-tat series of assertions -- FIVE in fact):

1) “We’ve got a problem in this country, it’s called Muslims."
2) "We know the president is one [a Muslim.”]
3) “You know he’s not even an American.”

All true assertions if you ask half of all Americans.

(From the SAME questioner):

4) What would you do to address Muslim 'training camps' here in the U.S., where Muslims “want to kill us.”
5) "When can we get rid of ‘em [Muslims]?”

Verdict: Though the questions and assertion have been asked by half this country since 2008, IMO this "Questioner" was a GOPe plant hoping for "GOTCHA!" answers just the same. The assertions -- while legit concerns -- were all too neatly made, packaged and timed. Very suspect.

So now we're back to a media on the collective offensive (aided by the GOPe), creating false memes out of thin air, trying to character assassinate Trump -- in this case on the WEAKEST of cases. Trumps has no other choice but to take the offensive.

How can he do it? By asking something neither GOPe eunuch McStain or Romney OR Media refused to ask of 0buma's following statement in his book:

"Mr. 0buma, you wrote, 'The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.' Can you explain to me as well as America what you meant about "the future"? Whose? America's?? And just how do YOU define the "slander of Allah" -- as well as such consequences?"
(and let the fur fly)

Why should Americans continue ignoring the herd of elephants in the closet over the past 6 1/2 years? The man is hell-bent on destroying this nation from the inside. Strong evidential words AND deeds do indeed certainly suggest 0buma IS a Muslim (admitted on Stephanopoulus interview.) He is a demonstratively over-the-top Muzz-Symp to such degree (many cabinet members and policy creators are Muslim) that he's FUBARed the entire Middle East on behalf of radical Muslim groups like ISIS and the Muzzie Brotherhood. This while allowing Muslims to openly slaughter Christians in the ME and Africa. None of any of the above are even arguable points and observations.

Let Trump open up ALL guns and ALL of evidence and put both the negligent media AND 0buma (and enabling Dems & GOPe) on the defensive AND on the stand.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   12:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tpaine (#0)

The allegation that Mr. Obama is Muslim has long festered among some Republicans.

In October 2008 then-GOP presidential nominee John McCain scolded a woman at a Minnesota town hall event who said Mr. 0buma couldn’t be trusted because “he’s an Arab.” Mr. McCain seized the microphone from the woman:

“No, ma’am, no, ma’am,” he said. “He’s a decent family man, citizen."

Mr. Trump made no such admonition.

Trump made no admonition because he's not John McStain, a GOPe whore, a Dem, OR a media lap-dog. "Decent"? 0buma?? "Trust-worthy"? 0buma?? *spit* Where is the GOP support for Trump? Oh, that's right -- they're laughing at the unfounded hit of Trump while bobbing for...er...um...media apples. Both GOPe Atheist puppets (Krauthammer and Will) must be wearing dressed and servicing each other over this.

As we witnessed then; As we witness now as 0buma has been engaging in a policy of Scorched-Earth-America, only a feckless, ball-less, eunuch and dishonorable puppet-whore like McCain would ever say and mean what Stain did. (Backed totally by the RNC-GOPe machination. He is the Hood Ornament for the entire GOPe. But he has plenty of company. This is exactly why the RNC-GOPe with its principle-less, treasonous, corrupt "leadership" needs to be completely burned to the ground. NO GOP candidate but Cruz or Trump is worthy.

6 1/2 half years later, that lady in Minnesota is proven 110% RIGHT; The GOPe and its supporters are proven feckless dogs and trained political gerbils. America has been torn to shreds and set afire by the Muzzie who wasn't even a Trojan Horse destroyer; And yet, what are is the Media, the Dems, and GOPe worried about? THIS crap?!? He was as the lady in Minnesota advertised, and a treasonous GOP-puppet McStain denied.

Should Trump yield a single inch on this issue, relent to respond to this media dog-whistle over NOTHING, he's not worthy of Dog-Catcher. Let the punks, political whore-class, and cowardly GOPe enablers defend the indefensible. They're experts, aren't they?

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   13:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BobCeleste (#2)

Why would he [Trump] refute the truth?

Because the Media, Dems, and GOPe all demand that the Trojan Horse scheduled destruction and scorched earth policy of the Muzzie-in-Chief continue to raze America and the West unabated. The captains of the atheist New World World approve.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   13:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: tpaine, BobCeleste (#3)

Because the comment was debatable, and Trump wisely didn't want that debate at that time?

Sure, it's very debatable, but there's a time and place for everything. Let the citizenry be encouraged to vent, expose, and indict 0buma without chastisement or censorship. This was the collusive media's collective shot across Trump's bow as a warning to warn his audience NOT to bring up the obvious. Screw them.

The truth must be not be impeded (as the media, Dems, and GOPe wish.) Trump's answer and promise to eventually "look into" things was...perfect.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   13:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Stoner (#4) (Edited)

Why is it that the people that are getting upset about this are the first ones to defend muslims, they attack people who say anything negative about muslims, they want to bring more muslims to the US, and the boo hoo hoo about the muslim refugees in Europe.

Because the truth exposes these people as traitors to America, haters of America, haters of God, co-destroyers of America, and Stalinist-Fascists who in another era would have ALL been jailed, hung, or pummeled.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   13:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tpaine (#1)

I agree with your analysis. Trump had no responsibility to correct an assertion not linked to the actual question. Lib media loves to roll out these people to ask their questions in public.

To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.---Revelation 1:5b-6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-09-19   13:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Don (#5)

The left with their fellow travelers seem to be very afraid of the Donald.

The Left are notorious liars who do the work of their father. Trump is the light exposing the darkness.

Is the whole thing a Dog and Pony show?

The entire Presidential campaign? OR, the GOP?

I would submit that both have indeed been a NWO Dog & Pony Shows and The FIX in since Poppy Arbusto first ran in 1988. In every election since, the subversive RNC-GOPe has torpedoed EVERY conservative while touting EVERY feckless anti-conservative RINO Loser-Tool (Dole/Dubya/McStain/Romney.)

Their are many traitors today in the Government and out, so how can we be sure of who is or isn't?

By noting the degree of venom spit by the Media and GOPe and WHO they gang-bang and target or ridicule(Trump or Cruz.)

Perhaps, the wisest course of action is to simply assume they all are?

Not all, but a vast majority are whores-for-hire, blackmailed, or threatened. Even Reagan was threatened with non-support (if not personal destruction) by Rockefeller if he did not relent and accept Poppy Bush as Veep if he didn't choose him.

Divide and conquer is still a viable method of conquering.

Yup. The function of 95% of all Mainstream Media (monopolies owned by Muzzies, subversives, Leftists, and One-Worlders) is to follow the orders of their subversive bosses and character-assassinate/editorialize. NOT provide "news."

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   13:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: misterwhite (#6)

Because his [0buma] mother was a Christian.

What evidence suggests the presumption that the undisciplined, anti-social daughter of Commies was "Christian"?

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   13:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: tpaine, Misterwhite (#8)

Yep, we even see them here at LF, where most of them pretend to be conservative, like misterwhite..

Some here (as well as at Free Republic) aren't quite sure that YOU were "conservative," so it might be wise to close that door and refrain from pounding that drum.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   13:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#17)

Because the truth exposes these people as traitors to America, haters of America, haters of God, co-destroyers of America, and Stalinist-Fascists who in another era would have ALL been jailed, hung, or pummeled.

But now we receive daily doses of defiant insults from the bastards.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-19   13:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: tpaine, Don, misterwhite (#8)

Guys like misterwhite are playing a long game, pretending to like Trump, but they are really convinced he could never win, -- thus paving the way for their REAL choice. -- A communitarian..

Two fallacious presumptions for which I see no proof of the charge.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   13:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: rlk (#22) (Edited)

Now we receive daily doses of defiant insults from the bastards.

Yep. We're supposed to respect the insults and death threats from Muslims (including the liar in the White Hut.)

These lunatics are caught red-handed and laughing like madmen with matches, kerosene, and blueprint of the building they're about to blow up and incinerate.... yet the media feigns insult to the character and intent of the arrested pyromaniacs and demand apology from "racist, Islamophobe Law Enforcement." Led by The New York Times.

The next thing we can expect is a proposed memorial at the World Trade Center from 0buma as an EO, commemorating the "sacrifice" of the Muslim terrorists.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   14:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: jeremiad (#12)

Why is it incumbent on anyone but 0buma to defend himself?

Because...he CAN'T. The second he begin explaining his actions (without a scripted teleprompter) will open himself up to a Pandora's Box of evil, destructive plans, actions and hatred of Whitey AND America. The Media will NOT allow the truth to be exposed.

Not only do the fascists want us to tow their line, but they want us to repeat the line after them. I WILL NOT COMPLY.

They are depending on intimidation, threats, peer pressure, repeated lies, and browbeating to tamp down an epidemic of truth escaping into the social media universe.

Liberator  posted on  2015-09-19   14:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jeremiad (#12)

Why is it incumbent on anyone but Obama to defend himself?

Hot damn, The Donald did not come to the defense of President Obama when the President was called a muslim. That should solidify his standing among Trump supporters. Trump will go down with the communists, socialists, neo-conservatives, and the other liberals in general.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago Manhattan, NY

Am I morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? I don't think so!

- - - - -

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago Manhattan, NY

This is the first time in my life that I have caused controversy by NOT saying something.

- - - - -

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago Manhattan, NY

If I would have challenged the man, the media would have accused me of interfering with that man's right of free speech. A no win situation!

- - - - -

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago Manhattan, NY

Christians need support in our country (and around the world), their religious liberty is at stake! Obama has been horrible, I will be great

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-19   15:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tpaine (#0)

To President Obama:

It was you who told at an Islamic dinner - "I am one of you."

It was you who on ABC News referenced - "My Muslim faith."

It was you who gave $100 million in U.S. taxpayer funds to re-build foreign mosques.

It was you who wrote that in the event of a conflict -"I will stand with the Muslims."

It was you who assured the Egyptian Foreign Minister that - "I am a Muslim."

It was you who bowed in submission before the Saudi King.

It was you who sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church condemning Christianity and professing Marxism.

It was you who exempted Muslims from penalties under Obamacare that the rest of us have to pay.

It was you who purposefully omitted - "endowed by our Creator" - from your recitation of The Declaration Of Independence.

It was you who mocked the Bible and Jesus Christ's Sermon On The Mount while repeatedly referring to the 'HOLY' Quran.

It was you who traveled the Islamic world denigrating the United States Of America.

It was you who instantly threw the support of your administration behind the building of the Ground Zero Victory mosque overlooking the hallowed crater of the World Trade Center.

It was you who refused to attend the National Prayer Breakfast, but hastened to host an Islamic prayer breakfast at the WH.

It was you who ordered both Georgetown Univ. and Notre Dame to shroud all vestiges of Jesus Christ BEFORE you would agree to go there to speak, but in contrast, you have NEVER requested that the mosques you have visited adjust their decor.

It was you who appointed anti-Christian fanatics to your Czar Corps.

It was you who appointed rabid Islamists to Homeland Security.

It was you who said that NASA's "foremost mission" was an outreach to Muslim communities.

It was you who as an Illinois Senator were the ONLY individual who would speak in favor of infanticide.

It was you who were the first President not to give a Christmas Greeting from the WH, and went so far as to hang photos of Chairman Mao on the WH tree.

It was you who curtailed the military tribunals of all Islamic terrorists.

It was you who refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an Islamic terrorist.

It is you who has refused to speak-out concerning the horrific executions of women throughout the Muslim culture, but yet, have submitted Arizona to the UN for investigation of hypothetical human-rights abuses.

It was you who when queried in India refused to acknowledge the true extent of radical global Jihadists, and instead profusely praised Islam in a country that is 82% Hindu and the victim of numerous Islamic terrorists assaults.

It was you who funneled $900 Million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.

It was you who ordered the USPS to honor the MUSLIM holiday with a new commemorative stamp.

It was you who directed our UK Embassy to conduct outreach to help "empower" the British Muslim community.

It was you who embraced the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood in your quest to overthrow the Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak.

It was you who funded mandatory Arabic language and culture studies in Grammar schools across our country.

It is you who follows the Muslim custom of not wearing any form of jewelry during Ramadan.

It is you who departs for Hawaii over the Christmas season so as to avoid past criticism for NOT participating in seasonal WH religious events.

It was you who was un-characteristically quick to join the chorus of the Muslim Brotherhood to depose Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, formerly America's strongest ally in North Africa; but, remain muted in your non-response to the Brotherhood led slaughter of Egyptian Christians.

patriot wes  posted on  2015-09-19   15:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: tpaine (#0)

Did you know that We Now Have a Muslim Government? ... John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia. Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett,~~is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live. Hillary Clinton's top advisor, Huma Abedin,~~is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan,~~is a Muslim. Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary,~~ is a Muslim. Obama advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati,~~ is a Muslim. Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America~~ is a Muslim. Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighbor-hood Partnerships, Eboo Patel,~~is a Muslim. And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself,~~ Barack Hussein Obama.

It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the oath of office when he was sworn in. He didn't repeat the oath properly to defend our nation and our Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed he was given the oath again….in private? CIA director John Brennan took his oath on a copy of the Constitution,~~not a Bible. Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy ~~of the Qur'an. Congresswoman Michele Bachman was vilified and almost tarred and feathered by Democrats when she voiced her concern about Muslims taking over our government. Considering all these appointments, it would explain why Obama and his minions are systematically destroying our nation, supporting radical Muslim groups worldwide, opening our southern border, and turning a blind eye to the genocide being perpetrated on Christians all over Africa and the Middle East. The more damage Obama does, the more arrogant he's become! Our nation and our government has been infiltrated by people who want to destroy us. It WILL only get worse. Plus John Kerry's son in law is an Iranian muslim.

patriot wes  posted on  2015-09-19   15:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: patriot wes (#27)

Thanks for posting!!

Very good list of facts, some of which I had forgotten.

Thanks again!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-09-19   16:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: patriot wes (#28)

Anyone that denies that Ovomit is a Muslim, is either incredibly stupid, or naive, or is a humongous liar!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-09-19   16:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator, misterwhite, Y'ALL (#16)

Their are many traitors today in the Government and out, -- Don

Yep, we even see them here at LF, where most of them pretend to be conservative, like misterwhite..

So how can we be sure of who is or isn't? Perhaps, the wisest course of action is to simply assume they all are?

Yep. Guys like misterwhite are playing a long game, pretending to like Trump, but they are really convinced he could never win, -- thus paving the way for their REAL choice. -- A communitarian..

Some here (as well as at Free Republic) aren't quite sure that YOU were "conservative," so it might be wise to close that door and refrain from pounding that drum. -- Liberator

I've always made it clear that I consider myself a conservative/libertarian and a constitutionalist that insists the document has an inherent presumption of liberty. -- Surprisingly, a lot of people disagree with that.

Guys like misterwhite are playing a long game, pretending to like Trump, but they are really convinced he could never win, -- thus paving the way for their REAL choice. -- A communitarian..

Two fallacious presumptions for which I see no proof of the charge.

I can't 'prove' that, it's my opinion, --- tho I'm willing to discuss the issue, using misterwhites own posted opinions to back up my view..

-- He won't defend himself, - so do you want to?

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-19   17:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: misterwhite, Stoner (#6)

Probably because his father was an African-American.

Barack Obama, Sr. was an African-Kenyan.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-19   18:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Liberator (#15)

Because the Media, Dems, and GOPe all demand that the Trojan Horse scheduled destruction and scorched earth policy of the Muzzie-in-Chief continue to raze America and the West unabated. The captains of the atheist New World World approve.

The enemy of my friend is my enemy.

Donald J Trump and I have the very same enemies, my lsit is a bit longer.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-20   8:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: nolu chan (#32)

"Barack Obama, Sr. was an African-Kenyan."

I stand corrected.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-20   8:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#16)

The truth must be not be impeded (as the media, Dems, and GOPe wish.) Trump's answer and promise to eventually "look into" things was...perfect.

True enough.

And it warned the left that he would not be obamit's whipping boy, his defender or cover for his lies and treasons.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-09-20   8:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator (#20)

"What evidence suggests the presumption that the undisciplined, anti-social daughter of Commies was "Christian"?

As though you could produce "evidence" that you're a Christian.

Well, Obama attended Catholic School. I doubt he used his father's credentials to get in.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-20   9:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Don (#11)

"The aim is to tell the truth. Isn't that a Christian thing?"

Yes. Telling the truth is a Christian thing. So why do you lie by claiming I'm a leftist?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-20   9:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: misterwhite (#37)

Aren't you one, or do you in honesty try your best to support Conservatives by tearing down conservative thinking by your outrageous support of the indefensible and tyrannical? It has to be one or the other. Perhaps, your mind is so shot that you believe your posts. The latter option is being generous to you.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-09-20   17:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Don (#38)

by your outrageous support of the indefensible and tyrannical

You're misguided. It's always been the Democrats that hate police, military, war, guns... and have always supported criminals, criminal rights, drugs, abolishing death penalties and hating those mean mean vile rich people.

I might not agree with White on all things, but he's far from a liberal. You support more libtard party platform staples than he does... and so does your other agenda posting pals... and that's why most of you hate the Republicans more than you do the Dems, both being the failed two parties, because in the end, every one of you government hating agenda posters will vote for a (D) all day long if your libertarian hope can't muster more than 6% vote. Most of your "pals" are closet Commie Sanders supporters.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-20   17:19:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Don (#38)

"try your best to support Conservatives by tearing down conservative thinking by your outrageous support of the indefensible and tyrannical?"

I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-20   19:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: misterwhite (#40)

Maybe, you don't, however, I think my post was clearly written.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-09-20   20:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: GrandIsland (#39) (Edited)

I havent voted Repubs for many years. I will never do so again unless the candidate is Trump. That doesn't mean I will vote for the Dems either. I can understand how you would vote for the things the RINOs support. The truth is there hasn't been a Conservative president and very few Conservative candidates since Reagan.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-09-20   20:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Don (#41) (Edited)

"however, I think my post was clearly written."

It WAS clearly written AND grammatically correct. But I still have no idea what you're talking about. And, given the fact that you posted in generalities, I don't think you do either.

Perhaps an example of my "outrageous support of the indefensible and tyrannical"?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-20   21:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: misterwhite (#43)

You asked for an example. Your attempt to defend cops who are clearly very much in the wrong.

Psalm 37

Don  posted on  2015-09-20   22:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Don (#44)

"Your attempt to defend cops who are clearly very much in the wrong."

How can anyone defend anybody who is "clearly very much in the wrong"? Certainly not me.

Perhaps you should reconsider your definition of "wrong". A cop enforcing a law you don't like is not wrong. A cop following procedure is not wrong. A cop making a mistake has simply made a mistake.

The anti- cop yellow-journalism articles posted here only tell one side of the story, and they do it badly. I find the other side of the story and post it for balance.

Now if that looks like I'm defending someone, then where's your post to Deckard accusing him of attempting to accuse cops who are clearly very much in the right?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-21   9:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Don (#44) (Edited)

So why do you lie by claiming I'm a leftist? ---- misterwhite

Aren't you one, or do you in honesty try your best to support Conservatives by tearing down conservative thinking by your outrageous support of the indefensible and tyrannical?

It has to be one or the other. Perhaps, your mind is so shot that you believe your posts. The latter option is being generous to you. ---- Don

You're misguided. --- I might not agree with White on all things, but he's far from a liberal. You support more libtard party platform staples than he does... and so does your other agenda posting pals... and that's why most of you hate the Republicans more than you do the Dems, both being the failed two parties, because in the end, every one of you government hating agenda posters will vote for a (D) all day long if your libertarian hope can't muster more than 6% vote. Most of your "pals" are closet Commie Sanders supporters. ----- GrandIsland

Well done Don..

Indeed, -- "You asked for an example. Your attempt to defend cops who are clearly very much in the wrong."

And don't forget this example: ---

"I believe the rights of the individual need to be tempered with the overall good of society in mind."--- misterwhite

Source: www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/907467/posts?page=48

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-21   9:59:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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