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Title: The Demise Of Trump Means The Rise Of Jeb
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=359049
Published: Sep 18, 2015
Author: DrewM
Post Date: 2015-09-18 22:02:06 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 530
Comments: 6

Yes, yes. Everyone has been predicting the End of Trump since before he even announced. But it's over. The high-water mark has been reached and now the long slow retreat begins. His performance on Wednesday was beyond ridiculous. He knows nothing. His grasp of current affairs is beneath a Twitter troll's.

Now he's backing out today's Heritage Action forum. He'd have to stand on a stage (or sit at a desk, whatever the set up is) and answer actual policy questions. We saw on Wednesday he simply can't do that. He has two modes...insult and claim he will do great things by hiring great people. Those aren't actual demonstrations of knowledge.

"But that doesn't mean Jeb," you'll cry plaintively. Yeah, it does. Carly and Carson will run up front for awhile but they too will fade. Carson isn't any better on policy than Trump and Carly, while terrific, A- doesn't have much money and B- will get hit on the whole HP layoff business as well as doing deals with Iran. There's literally a whole oppo book on her and it will all get tossed out there.

So we will see a repeat of 2012...flavors of the month rising and falling. Meanwhile the establishment favorite, loaded down with cash will just bump along watching the grassroots challengers come and go. He'll dip into his war chest every now and then to help the more stubborn ones along their path to oblivion with a well placed negative ad or two thousand.

Which brings me to your next objection:

"Ah but you forget...RUBIO!"

Yes, Rubio.
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Rubio With His Pals Announcing Their Amnesty Bill

Sure Jeb is more pro-amnesty than Rubio is but Rubio is the only to cut a deal with Schumer-Reid-Obama-McCain on it. A deal even Rubio says was a mistake.

Not only will the hit be about immigration but Rubio's lack of experience. "How can you trust my good friend Marco to deal with Putin when by his own admission he was rolled by Obama and the Senate Democrats on immigration? Now, when I was Governor of Florida....."

It's going to be Jeb. The GOP is gonna GOP.

Special acknowledgment to Karl. He and I had this conversation on Twitter a few days ago and some of this is from what he said and got me thinking about.

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

It's going to be Jeb.

Jeb/Kasich = Biden/Warren

The likely winner of that matchup? Walter B. Jones/Rand Paul - Constitution Party

A happy ending.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-09-18   23:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#1)

The likely winner of that matchup? Walter B. Jones/Rand Paul - Constitution Party

A happy ending.

That would be one I would be happy with,despite Jones being a sincere Catholic and Paul being a wishy-washy Libertarian.

I would even contribute money,post signs,and deliver hand-outs for that one.

Has Jones made any noises about running,and would Paul be wiling to be 2nd on the ticket? Remember,he took a oath to vote for the alleged Republican candidate,regardless of who it would be.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-18   23:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

Has Jones made any noises about running,and would Paul be wiling to be 2nd on the ticket?

No, and Paul is probably too wimpy to leave his sheltered position behind Mitch McConnell's skirt.

It's just a crazy dream I had.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-09-18   23:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative (#0)

The Demise Of Trump Means The Rise Of Jeb

All of the assholes to get rid of Trump to remain in contention for the presidency. Then it will be the same old same old business as usual.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-19   1:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#0)

Thinking Cruz will get the biggest bounce of a Trump demise . He is the natural inheritor of the Trump constituency . He has experience of being an elected official .Has knowledge of the key issues (and has the curiosity and expertise on the issues that Trump lacks ),and No one can accuse him of being an establishment politician. No one can dispute his conservative bonafides ,and he has led more than one revolt against the leadership of Yertle McConnell and the Republican establishment .

His campaign is not underfunded even if he doesn't have the treasure chest that Jeb has accumulated .He does not make stupid errors like Trump did this week . Every word that comes out of his mouth has been thought through . I'm thinking that all this polling stuff is all well and good and represents a brief moment in time . Cruz is conducting his campaign as the marathon it is . He will do well in the primaries .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-09-19   7:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tomder55 (#5)

Thinking Cruz will get the biggest bounce of a Trump demise . He is the natural inheritor of the Trump constituency .

Maybe. In a recent Iowa poll, Carson was the second pick of 30% with the other candidates at less than 15%. Fiorina might get some of those. Cruz didn't fare very well.

So maybe Trump's popularity is more closely tied to his outsider schtick and his supporters would flock to the other outsider candidates instead of Cruz. I know Cruz is doing everything he can to fill that slot of outsider but he doesn't seem to make the sale. For that matter, Cruz really isn't especially good as a retail pol.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-09-19   11:35:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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